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  • #8,781
  • Jul 15, 2017 5:41am Jul 15, 2017 5:41am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Here is a set of instructions to setup the indicator and EA. Please look at them see if they help.. if not then send me a PM with your inputs and errors. Click on link to download EA v37.7.7(latest stable) or (latest beta). http://xm7.info/ea/ccfp_weekly/xm7_C...or_v37.7.7.ex4 Get the indicator "http://xm7.info/ea/ccfp_weekly/Indicator/CCFp-Diff_[v2.0](1).ex4" Get the template http://xm7.info/ea/ccfp_weekly/Templ...LYtemplate.tpl Manually clear all global variables. (only do this if u already...
Many thanks for all these instructions sir. Now I'm on to my first week of test trading with CCFp weekly after being a silent lurker for quite a very long time.

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Patience and Discipline, these are the Holy Grail.
  • #8,782
  • Jul 15, 2017 5:44am Jul 15, 2017 5:44am
Quoting braintheboss
This is my EA tests account ( 30 months ). With buggy and untested systems. This shows even random tests without relantionship can be profitable in long term. But really its luck. Now we are in trendy market then its normal cffp works well. But DD in cffp is not a good signal in long term... {image} {image}
Do you imagine i just started with the setup and got those results? Well, for your information, i have also gone through many months of trial and error with the strategy before i got it right then opened a new demo to get a clean and clear data.

I stated before that i am not using the ccfp.

Stay tuned for the Live account.

Cheers
MM
Patience, Persistence and discipline = Holy Grail.
FUNDED FEEDER All Time Profit: $104
  • #8,783
  • Jul 15, 2017 5:57am Jul 15, 2017 5:57am
Quoting Murysco
{quote} Do you imagine i just started with the setup and got those results? Well, for your information, i have also gone through many months of trial and error with the strategy before i got it right then opened a new demo to get a clean and clear data. I stated before that i am not using the ccfp. Stay tuned for the Live account. Cheers MM
Why dont you start your own thread and explain your strategy? Isnt the ccfp the main part of this strategy?
  • #8,784
  • Jul 15, 2017 6:14am Jul 15, 2017 6:14am
Quoting bmcgowra
{quote} Why dont you start your own thread and explain your strategy? Isnt the ccfp the main part of this strategy?
I don't have the time to manage a thread: having to reply to any questions asked. I already have too much work in my hands.
Patience, Persistence and discipline = Holy Grail.
FUNDED FEEDER All Time Profit: $104
  • #8,785
  • Jul 15, 2017 6:43am Jul 15, 2017 6:43am
Hey guys,

Back for another update. I had some more time to implement virtual baskets in my excel analysis so can now optimize for entry/exit times, Sl/TP and virtual basket settings. I'll explain the way I worked my analysis as some people probably haven't read my previous posts. What I did is gather data with 1440 FT,10080 FT and 43200 FT and then averaged the respective baskets for every minute to get a graph like below. I then created 9 basket trades out of the observed trends with the entry and exit times as seen in the graph.
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This puts timing in my favor giving the first edge. Next was setting the virtual basket for each individual basket out of the 9 so that most trades that never went into positive weren't entered in(reduced drawdown significantly). The higher the virtual basket is set to enter trades, the more it eats away at every profitable day so this needed to be balanced to get the most pips out of the data that I have so far. As the ea only logs every minute, a basket may start if it goes above the logged value in between the logged minutes so some room was allowed to accommodate for this. Once the best virtual basket setting was found for each basket I adjusted the stop loss and take profit to maximize the amount of pips made. The data is for the past 5 weeks with the exception of 06/28(skewed data heavily with news) and another random Monday where baskets gathering data were interrupted. Below is the output after optimization for each basket. All the blue cells were baskets that didn't open due to virtual baskets which saved about 3000 pips from being lost during this period.
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The risk on the left indicates how many pips went against the whole basket compared to the realized pips. E.g. 64% means that for every 100 pips made by the basket, it experiences 64 pips in floating drawdown. Here is the same data in chart form with pips against and potential pips.
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Growth is very steady and combined average daily drawdown over this 5 week period for every basket is less than 5%.($500 starting capital with 0.01lots)
These results seem exceedingly good and of course with hindsight any parameter can be adjusted to find the best settings for the 5 weeks of data but with virtual baskets and SL implemented, risk has been reduced significantly going forward. I'm curious to see how these same settings will do over the following months. It seems like I've created baskets of baskets throwing out a wide net with controlled losses and large potential.

Cheers,
David
  • #8,786
  • Jul 15, 2017 6:47am Jul 15, 2017 6:47am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Here is a set of instructions to setup the indicator and EA. Please look at them see if they help.. if not then send me a PM with your inputs and errors. Click on link to download EA v37.7.7(latest stable) or (latest beta). http://xm7.info/ea/ccfp_weekly/xm7_C...or_v37.7.7.ex4 Get the indicator "http://xm7.info/ea/ccfp_weekly/Indicator/CCFp-Diff_[v2.0](1).ex4" Get the template http://xm7.info/ea/ccfp_weekly/Templ...LYtemplate.tpl Manually clear all global variables. (only do this if u already...

A special thanks to xmess7 for this page devoted to use, I would suggest far from my person to make controversies as they are one of the last arrived, to think once the final version is ready for a startup base with suggestions on the best settings since l 'Experience now that some of you have accumulated since the first page settings are now overcome by the various experiences, perhaps trying not to go out of the question: CCFp weekly signals (set and forget about the basket shop). Because if everyone writes about performance obtained with different systems, who else EAs who without ccfp or manual strategies just create confusion without realizing whether the original system then EA works or not. Thank you all for your availability for a greeting and good Sunday
  • #8,787
  • Jul 15, 2017 6:52am Jul 15, 2017 6:52am
Quoting 123david321
Hey guys, Back for another update. I had some more time to implement virtual baskets in my excel analysis so can now optimize for entry/exit times, Sl/TP and virtual basket settings. I'll explain the way I worked my analysis as some people probably haven't read my previous posts. What I did is gather data with 1440 FT,10080 FT and 43200 FT and then averaged the respective baskets for every minute to get a graph like below. I then created 9 basket trades out of the observed trends with the entry and exit times as seen in the graph. {image} This puts...


This is what I meant in the previous post
  • #8,788
  • Jul 15, 2017 7:13am Jul 15, 2017 7:13am
Quoting Forex1960
{quote} A special thanks to xmess7 for this page devoted to use, I would suggest far from my person to make controversies as they are one of the last arrived, to think once the final version is ready for a startup base with suggestions on the best settings since l 'Experience now that some of you have accumulated since the first page settings are now overcome by the various experiences, perhaps trying not to go out of the question: CCFp weekly signals (set and forget about the basket shop). Because if everyone writes about performance obtained with...
As I said before this is a very chaotic thread..

So I had the idea to start a new thread. Call it "CCFp weekly signals (set and forget basket trading) For Dummnies".

In this thread we could add several different systems and explain them properly on page 1! In this way one doesnt have to read through 9000 posts and the posts will only become more.

Forexpinbar could start the post and only update the first page once in a while.. (I could also if he doesnt want)

This original thread here could be used to work on the EA and figure out strategies. If someone has a question refer to the dummy thread..

I am just trying to help in creating a better system ..
  • #8,789
  • Jul 15, 2017 7:24am Jul 15, 2017 7:24am
Quoting 123david321
Hey guys, Back for another update. I had some more time to implement virtual baskets in my excel analysis so can now optimize for entry/exit times, Sl/TP and virtual basket settings. I'll explain the way I worked my analysis as some people probably haven't read my previous posts. What I did is gather data with 1440 FT,10080 FT and 43200 FT and then averaged the respective baskets for every minute to get a graph like below. I then created 9 basket trades out of the observed trends with the entry and exit times as seen in the graph. {image} This puts...
Thanks so much for sharing - incredible and methodical research. Well presented!
  • #8,790
  • Jul 15, 2017 7:31am Jul 15, 2017 7:31am
Quoting bmcgowra
{quote} As I said before this is a very chaotic thread.. So I had the idea to start a new thread. Call it "CCFp weekly signals (set and forget basket trading) For Dummnies". In this thread we could add several different systems and explain them properly on page 1! In this way one doesnt have to read through 9000 posts and the posts will only become more. Forexpinbar could start the post and only update the first page once in a while.. (I could also if he doesnt want) This original thread here could be used to work on the EA and figure out strategies....
I understand what you say but there are people here that are putting hours of work in what they do and are paying for vps services to log data. There is effort involved and personally if someone isn't willing to contribute constructively by putting effort into trying to figure out anything themselves I'm not willing to share my information with them.
  • #8,791
  • Jul 15, 2017 7:45am Jul 15, 2017 7:45am
Quoting 123david321
{quote} I understand what you say but there are people here that are putting hours of work in what they do and are paying for vps services to log data. There is effort involved and personally if someone isn't willing to contribute constructively by putting effort into trying to figure out anything themselves I'm not willing to share my information with them.

What you shared and much and deserve an applause for that you are not obliged to miss us, it is also true that in any scientific research or not the sharing and the means to arrive at the end what one could escape can be intuition for a other
  • #8,792
  • Jul 15, 2017 7:51am Jul 15, 2017 7:51am
Quoting 123david321
{quote} I understand what you say but there are people here that are putting hours of work in what they do and are paying for vps services to log data. There is effort involved and personally if someone isn't willing to contribute constructively by putting effort into trying to figure out anything themselves I'm not willing to share my information with them.
I understand what you mean. But is it efficient? I just try to think of ways to improve it..

I tested your strategy with good results by the way. I tested it for 2 weeks. I also test xmess strategy and so on. Busy trying different things on my own this last week..
  • #8,793
  • Jul 15, 2017 8:02am Jul 15, 2017 8:02am
Quoting bmcgowra
{quote} As I said before this is a very chaotic thread.. So I had the idea to start a new thread. ..
Based on past experience and with all the due respect for you own opinion
i have seen that even "If" starting a new thread for Newbies, the results will be that many Newbies
will be directed in that thread and it will be full of Newbies and probably everyone at a different levels...
Then once in a while you will see someone who has more experience from this thread, and will give some advises
and many will fill up the inbox of that person with many messages ..//

Then the Newbies who have had a bit more experience will start shouting at the fresher newbies
and eventually the Thread will become a messy stuff... without a Firm Thread Starter who will put some rules..
What is needed here is to be a thief... Steal from those who share their knowledge ...

It is often thought that one need to start from scratch to learn things, but the opposite is also true
that starting from where we are and what we see, it's a start ... Newbie is a newbie for those who want to be in such a state
if one decides tomorrow that he/she is not a Newbie anymore, the spark in his mind and the knowledge will follow accordingly _
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  • #8,794
  • Jul 15, 2017 8:26am Jul 15, 2017 8:26am
I saw that the manual opening button was added to work on the news, it is not possible to implement a daily feature that makes various opening hours for each day according to the fx empire calendar such that it is scheduled for the whole week for those who do not Can stand in front of pc and use vps?
  • #8,795
  • Jul 15, 2017 8:53am Jul 15, 2017 8:53am
@123david321

I presume that the 9 baskets are the 3 timeframes with FF/TF/FT and without changing the 3/5 MA ?

A probably not because yoy have 2 Basket1x coding and 4 Basket2x coding.
If you do not mind, will you share the meaning (settings) of the Basket coding.
I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #8,796
  • Jul 15, 2017 9:01am Jul 15, 2017 9:01am
Quoting Murysco
{quote} I don't have the time to manage a thread: having to reply to any questions asked. I already have too much work in my hands.
I thought it is possible to start a tread on FF as "on invite only" or set a minimum member level needed to reply or ask questions.
If "on invite only" you can first see if the member has the same experience and trading knowledge (and perhaps even IQ) as you.
That won't be so hard to maintain now would it.....
I can calculate the movement of stars, but not the madness of men. Isaac N.
  • #8,797
  • Jul 15, 2017 9:02am Jul 15, 2017 9:02am
Quoting 123david321
Hey guys, Back for another update. I had some more time to implement virtual baskets in my excel analysis so can now optimize for entry/exit times, Sl/TP and virtual basket settings. I'll explain the way I worked my analysis as some people probably haven't read my previous posts. What I did is gather data with 1440 FT,10080 FT and 43200 FT and then averaged the respective baskets for every minute to get a graph like below. I then created 9 basket trades out of the observed trends with the entry and exit times as seen in the graph. {image} This puts...
Awesome analysis and very easy to understand
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  • #8,798
  • Jul 15, 2017 9:03am Jul 15, 2017 9:03am
Quoting Forex1960
I saw that the manual opening button was added to work on the news, it is not possible to implement a daily feature that makes various opening hours for each day according to the fx empire calendar such that it is scheduled for the whole week for those who do not Can stand in front of pc and use vps?
Anything and everything is possible (why do people asking this question LOL) however be careful what you ask for, it may not meet the requirements you have not thought of LOL!

I did consider that. But consider this, the latest Beta can now use discrete hours. In other words you can enter open hours separated by a comma

01:00,02:30,18:45

So in essence you can use this for news events. The user would just need to look at the news calendar and decide which times he wants the EA to look and open a basket. However at the moment there is no provision to select the pairs that are affected.

I'll see something more complete can be implemented without adding too many inputs...
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  • #8,799
  • Edited 9:21am Jul 15, 2017 9:10am | Edited 9:21am
Then open 5 charts and schedule several daily opening times each chart to cover the whole week based on the release of the news
  • #8,800
  • Jul 15, 2017 9:13am Jul 15, 2017 9:13am
Quoting 123david321
Hey guys, Back for another update. I had some more time to implement virtual baskets in my excel analysis so can now optimize for entry/exit times, Sl/TP and virtual basket settings. I'll explain the way I worked my analysis as some people probably haven't read my previous posts. What I did is gather data with 1440 FT,10080 FT and 43200 FT and then averaged the respective baskets for every minute to get a graph like below. I then created 9 basket trades out of the observed trends with the entry and exit times as seen in the graph. {image} This puts...

Based on your analysis you have an idea of what the best times to open the trash can or is randomly influenced by the news
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