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  • #6,381
  • Jul 7, 2017 9:08am Jul 7, 2017 9:08am
Quoting Exodus
Further to some chatter on a news thread elsewhere in FF, in which Dev and I (at least) have been participating, here is a piece on interesting work occurring at NASA. At the 10-minute mark commences a short section on electrically powered airliners. https://youtu.be/Y1gAusOW-RU
Very interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb3OmhO7_ao
  • #6,382
  • Jul 7, 2017 9:49am Jul 7, 2017 9:49am
More cultural contributions from the ROPO - A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030
  • #6,383
  • Jul 7, 2017 10:27am Jul 7, 2017 10:27am
https://youtu.be/zCEpSWQsRPE
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,384
  • Jul 7, 2017 10:33am Jul 7, 2017 10:33am
Quoting Stu Effex
https://youtu.be/zCEpSWQsRPE
Think we might be looking at our next PM
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #6,385
  • Jul 7, 2017 10:42am Jul 7, 2017 10:42am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} When there is no incentive to work, people generally don't (present company excluded). And when the state provides for your income, the state controls you. UBI is Socialism by another name. People no longer need to innovate and be productive. UBI is an economic death wish
I agree with you, but it is more difficult than first meets the eye.

The discussion is on another forum and the point has been made by some that universal income basically kills the incentive to work.

The proponents of UI then pointed out that the current benefits system already kills the incentive to work, and that universal income would cut down on a huge amount of means testing and therefore government bureaucracy.

The proponents go further and argue that there is more incentive to work under a universal income, because since everybody gets a basic income, work always pays a dollar extra for every dollar earnered. They argue that this is in contrast to the current benefits system which penalises a worker because your benefits are removed when you start working meaning you could be working and earning only a fraction more than you would get on benefits.

When I did the sums of how much this would cost it came out at £420 billion which is 8 times the current welfare spend, and when I pointed that out I was being 'critical' LMAO.

The trouble is that no one will give me a direct answer when I ask for how the system will work. It's purely an idea, but bizzarely it should be implemented NOW!
  • #6,386
  • Jul 7, 2017 10:44am Jul 7, 2017 10:44am
Brits do it best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY5rztWa1TM
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #6,387
  • Jul 7, 2017 10:57am Jul 7, 2017 10:57am
Quoting Magog
British judge Michael Shrimpton claims that an ISIS bomb making factory at Grenfell Tower was responsible for the fire that claimed the lives of 500 people (http://yournewswire.com/500-dead-grenfell-tower-fire/) http://www.m2voice.com/british-judge-grenfell-tower-fire-caused-isis-bomb-media-blackout/
Missed this one earlier. He was a Barrister and has made such claims in the past without substance. Not saying it is B.S just pointing out he has made wild accusations before.
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  • #6,388
  • Jul 7, 2017 10:59am Jul 7, 2017 10:59am
Italy is now putting our Nafri friends on trains to Paris - but they don't wanna stop in Paris.

http://www.westmonster.com/migrant-chaos-in-paris-as-thousands-arrive-from-italy/
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #6,389
  • Jul 7, 2017 10:59am Jul 7, 2017 10:59am
Quoting Stu Effex
https://youtu.be/zCEpSWQsRPE
Excellent speaker who is often judged by his accent rather than what he actually has to say, and always knows his subject
  • #6,390
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:01am Jul 7, 2017 11:01am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Missed this one earlier. He was a Barrister and has made such claims in the past without substance. Not saying it is B.S just pointing out he has made wild accusations before.
Yeah I wasn't sure either but it would explain a lot - like have you EVER known a fridge to explode?
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #6,391
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:02am Jul 7, 2017 11:02am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Think we might be looking at our next PM
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9961616#post9961616
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,392
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:06am Jul 7, 2017 11:06am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Yeah I wasn't sure either but it would explain a lot - like have you EVER known a fridge to explode?
Looks like quite a common cause of fires among the white goods

http://www.ukfiretraining.com/news/fridge-freezer-fires.html

But none of this detracts from there being more to this Grenfell story than meets our eyes
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,393
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:09am Jul 7, 2017 11:09am
Quoting Magog
Italy is now putting our Nafri friends on trains to Paris - but they don't wanna stop in Paris. http://www.westmonster.com/migrant-chaos-in-paris-as-thousands-arrive-from-italy/
Again a casual glance at the photo and can't seem to see any females or children. Oh no my mistake they are likely all children and escaping utter torture.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,394
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:09am Jul 7, 2017 11:09am
Quoting verv
{quote} I agree with you, but it is more difficult than first meets the eye. The discussion is on another forum and the point has been made by some that universal income basically kills the incentive to work. The proponents of UI then pointed out that the current benefits system already kills the incentive to work, and that universal income would cut down on a huge amount of means testing and therefore government bureaucracy. The proponents go further and argue that there is more incentive to work under a universal income, because since everybody...
UBI is socialist bollox. UI would require greater levels of taxation. You don't fix the current benefits system with an alternative system that is merely simpler to administer, a better computerised system would achieve that in the first year with about a six month pay back. UI would be a disaster for the economy make it unproductive and uncompetitive. Entrepreneurs would set up shop in other domains to get away from the necessarily high tax regime required to support UI. Outside investment to the UK would be lost because no one in their right mind would want to be funding people to sit on their arse at home. So UI delivers lower investment, lower innovation, less industry, job losses, less productivity and a nation of entitled lazy fluckers. But still we don't have an answer on who is going to pay for it
  • #6,395
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:30am Jul 7, 2017 11:30am
Quoting Magog
Italy is now putting our Nafri friends on trains to Paris - but they don't wanna stop in Paris. http://www.westmonster.com/migrant-chaos-in-paris-as-thousands-arrive-from-italy/
It's been tested, something like if you get on the train at Lille with a ticket to Paris, but then stay on the train instead of getting off, it will take you all the way to St. Pancras, no checks.
  • #6,396
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:31am Jul 7, 2017 11:31am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Looks like quite a common cause of fires among the white goods http://www.ukfiretraining.com/news/fridge-freezer-fires.html But none of this detracts from there being more to this Grenfell story than meets our eyes

Ok shoulda done a bit of research LOL
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #6,397
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:52am Jul 7, 2017 11:52am
Quoting jen101
{quote} It's been tested, something like if you get on the train at Lille with a ticket to Paris, but then stay on the train instead of getting off, it will take you all the way to St. Pancras, no checks.
I think this is a shock face
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,398
  • Jul 7, 2017 11:55am Jul 7, 2017 11:55am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I think this is a shock face
French transport police won't do any checks on travel documents of passengers and have threatened to arrest British transport police if the try to check any passengers travel docs. You couldn't make this shit up
  • #6,399
  • Jul 7, 2017 12:08pm Jul 7, 2017 12:08pm
Quoting Magog
Brits do it best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY5rztWa1TM
That's a fact!
https://youtu.be/ULTtWUZhD9c
  • #6,400
  • Jul 7, 2017 12:17pm Jul 7, 2017 12:17pm
Quoting Magog
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Sorry Magog, but the UK's issues are not skin colour related, they are related to the despicable culture of a 7th century murderous death cult, coupled with the stupidity of the left leaning libtard socialists
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