Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
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Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
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Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
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Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
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- Edited 5:07am Jun 27, 2017 3:10am | Edited 5:07am
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I wish I had time to listen to London Paul, it was sounding intriguing. I wish I had time to.....
I took until now to decide whether you were pulling my chain, in a pacifist dismissive sort of way, but I shall take it on face value. 
The only technology we have that 'relies' upon relativity is GPS and I'm not convinced that the authors didn't grab a bit of kudos by making oblique references to relativity in their description of the system. The whole GPS system is based upon synchronised time ( I have not studied Glonass nor Iridium ) and the computation of ranges. Within that there is a correction based upon the fact that the range is not known until the satellite has moved-on. The ranges for the visible constellation of satellites can be determined (depending upon whose receiver and software is in use) to within one-wavelength of the transmission frequency (about 19cm depending upon which frequency is chosen). Hence it is possible to determine a very accurate position, to within 10cm, without the need for military grade receivers. Even if the DoD were to re-instate Selective Availability it would not make any difference to the foregoing, so now even a cheap and tacky receiver can resolve to within 10-metres without problem.
Off the back of the GPS system comes a convenient and highly reliable clock source. This clock is used, I am led to believe, by most of the mobile telephone base stations around the world. The mobile telephony system relies upon time-interleaved transmission and the necessity for accurate synchronisation comes from the requirement to hand-over a client from one base-station to another when the client is moving ... driving along the freeway for instance. There is also the accounting function which must be satisfied (money gets into everything ! ).
Considering the lack of understanding of the nature of light that was the case around the turn of the last Century it is a testament to the brilliance of Einstein, Tesla, Rutherford, Neils Bohr (...enough already) that they were able to make sensible postulations on some things. Light being an energy transmission mechanism, the understanding of which was muddied by quantum physics, and only fully disclosed with the invention/advent of the laser, is no more than the cooperation of electrostatic and magnetic fields to pass energy. The lack of any apparent connecting medium is one of the true wonders of the Universe. Of course, we all take it for granted.....
{quote} Yes you are correct! The only thing I would say is Einstein wasn't necessarily wrong, only he used time in the context to prove his theory, such as the moving train as an example. I am sure in the context of time itself if you were to tell him this he would agree with you.
{quote} Einstein's whole theory of relativity is based on the speed of light as a constant. Without this constant, there would be no theory of relativity. There are so many applications in our technology which relies on this. Is our technology working not proof enough for you? ....
Off the back of the GPS system comes a convenient and highly reliable clock source. This clock is used, I am led to believe, by most of the mobile telephone base stations around the world. The mobile telephony system relies upon time-interleaved transmission and the necessity for accurate synchronisation comes from the requirement to hand-over a client from one base-station to another when the client is moving ... driving along the freeway for instance. There is also the accounting function which must be satisfied (money gets into everything ! ).
Considering the lack of understanding of the nature of light that was the case around the turn of the last Century it is a testament to the brilliance of Einstein, Tesla, Rutherford, Neils Bohr (...enough already) that they were able to make sensible postulations on some things. Light being an energy transmission mechanism, the understanding of which was muddied by quantum physics, and only fully disclosed with the invention/advent of the laser, is no more than the cooperation of electrostatic and magnetic fields to pass energy. The lack of any apparent connecting medium is one of the true wonders of the Universe. Of course, we all take it for granted.....
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
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- Jun 27, 2017 3:35am Jun 27, 2017 3:35am
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Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
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- Jun 27, 2017 4:01am Jun 27, 2017 4:01am
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[quote=Exodus;10022260] {quote} I took until now to decide whether you were pulling my chain, in a pacifist dismissive sort of way, but I shall take it on face value. {quote}
No I was not pulling your chain, and don't know what gave you that idea! I agreed with you.
{quote}No I was not pulling your chain, and don't know what gave you that idea! I agreed with you.
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- Jun 27, 2017 4:05am Jun 27, 2017 4:05am
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Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
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{quote} Euro looking bullish. {image} {image}
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Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
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Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
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- Jun 27, 2017 4:28am Jun 27, 2017 4:28am
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Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
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- Jun 27, 2017 4:37am Jun 27, 2017 4:37am
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Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye