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  • #5,821
  • Jun 26, 2017 11:57pm Jun 26, 2017 11:57pm
If a picture paints a thousand words a song can write a book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb1gPWmfMHg
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,822
  • Jun 27, 2017 12:16am Jun 27, 2017 12:16am
How long have Africans lived in Africa - 1000's of years? - Ok so how come after all that time they still haven't figured out how to feed themselves.

WFP chief urges EU to step up funds for Africa famine

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/wfp-chief-urges-eu-to-step-up-funds-for-africa-famine-20170626
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  • #5,823
  • Jun 27, 2017 12:21am Jun 27, 2017 12:21am
Quoting Magog
How long have Africans lived in Africa - 1000's of years? - Ok so how come after all that time they still haven't figured out how to feed themselves. WFP chief urges EU to step up funds for Africa famine http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/wfp-chief-urges-eu-to-step-up-funds-for-africa-famine-20170626
Pics of people carrying water on their backs. Not yet invented the wheel? Why not use wheels and a donkey? Drinking dirty water? How about making a fire and boiling the water? Basic survival.
  • #5,824
  • Jun 27, 2017 12:43am Jun 27, 2017 12:43am
BS????? - Maybe - DYOR

Pope Francis and Angela Merkel: Enemies of European Civilization (http://theinternationalreporter.org/2017/06/27/pope-francis-and-angela-merkel-enemies-of-european-civilization/)

they are successfully using illegal immigration to their benefit in order to create a larger peasant class in North America, Europe and in every nation on earth.

Group of 20 summit meeting in Hamburg, from July 7-8. July 6th is the date Andrew M mentioned in the vid I posted a few weeks ago.

Ms. Merkel, said that we are a world in which we want to work multilaterally, a world in which we dont want to build walls but bring down walls. That'll help her Islamize Germany?

Had it not been for the likes of Pope Francis and Ms. Merkel, it is unlikely that Europe would be under a deluge of mostly Mohammedan asylum seekers. The claim that the invasion was spontaneous due to the turmoil in the Middle East from US and Western nation-states military intervention is implausible. The region has been unstable for decades. Why all of a sudden is there a mass exodus and why it is mostly of young single Muslim men?

Only 1 in 10,000 of the migrants arriving in 2015 had a job one year later (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/710927/million-migrants-Germany-unemployed-Merkel-open-door-policy) thats an unemployment rate of more than 99%

https://theinternationalreporter.org/2017/06/27/pope-francis-and-angela-merkel-enemies-of-european-civilization/
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,825
  • Jun 27, 2017 12:54am Jun 27, 2017 12:54am
Quoting Magog
How long have Africans lived in Africa - 1000's of years? - Ok so how come after all that time they still haven't figured out how to feed themselves. WFP chief urges EU to step up funds for Africa famine http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/wfp-chief-urges-eu-to-step-up-funds-for-africa-famine-20170626
They must be in need of a new fleet of Mercedes
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  • #5,826
  • Edited 3:07am Jun 27, 2017 1:10am | Edited 3:07am
I wish I had time to listen to London Paul, it was sounding intriguing. I wish I had time to.....

Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Yes you are correct! The only thing I would say is Einstein wasn't necessarily wrong, only he used time in the context to prove his theory, such as the moving train as an example. I am sure in the context of time itself if you were to tell him this he would agree with you.
I took until now to decide whether you were pulling my chain, in a pacifist dismissive sort of way, but I shall take it on face value.

Quoting jen101
{quote} Einstein's whole theory of relativity is based on the speed of light as a constant. Without this constant, there would be no theory of relativity. There are so many applications in our technology which relies on this. Is our technology working not proof enough for you? ....
The only technology we have that 'relies' upon relativity is GPS and I'm not convinced that the authors didn't grab a bit of kudos by making oblique references to relativity in their description of the system. The whole GPS system is based upon synchronised time ( I have not studied Glonass nor Iridium ) and the computation of ranges. Within that there is a correction based upon the fact that the range is not known until the satellite has moved-on. The ranges for the visible constellation of satellites can be determined (depending upon whose receiver and software is in use) to within one-wavelength of the transmission frequency (about 19cm depending upon which frequency is chosen). Hence it is possible to determine a very accurate position, to within 10cm, without the need for military grade receivers. Even if the DoD were to re-instate Selective Availability it would not make any difference to the foregoing, so now even a cheap and tacky receiver can resolve to within 10-metres without problem.

Off the back of the GPS system comes a convenient and highly reliable clock source. This clock is used, I am led to believe, by most of the mobile telephone base stations around the world. The mobile telephony system relies upon time-interleaved transmission and the necessity for accurate synchronisation comes from the requirement to hand-over a client from one base-station to another when the client is moving ... driving along the freeway for instance. There is also the accounting function which must be satisfied (money gets into everything ! ).


Considering the lack of understanding of the nature of light that was the case around the turn of the last Century it is a testament to the brilliance of Einstein, Tesla, Rutherford, Neils Bohr (...enough already) that they were able to make sensible postulations on some things. Light being an energy transmission mechanism, the understanding of which was muddied by quantum physics, and only fully disclosed with the invention/advent of the laser, is no more than the cooperation of electrostatic and magnetic fields to pass energy. The lack of any apparent connecting medium is one of the true wonders of the Universe. Of course, we all take it for granted.....
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,827
  • Jun 27, 2017 1:35am Jun 27, 2017 1:35am
I been thinking a lot abt the current state of the world and started to wonder what would have happened if we had lost WW2
Would the Soviet Union have existed for instance.
Would the EU have been created.
Would all the wars have happened like Korea,Nam,ME, the cold war.
Would we have mass or any immigration?
Terrorism?
Would MLK/Kennedy have been killed?
Would 911 have happened?
Hitler would be dead now anyway and I don't believe he could have made any bigger fcuk up than we managed without him.
Just thinking LOL.
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  • #5,828
  • Jun 27, 2017 1:45am Jun 27, 2017 1:45am
Quoting Exodus
The only technology we have that 'relies' upon relativity is GPS and I'm not convinced that the authors didn't grab a bit of kudos by making oblique references to relativity in their description of the system. .
No "authors grabbing kudos." It's a fact.

Apart from all space exploration... moon landings, ISS, Curiosity on Mars, even Hubble... I'm not sure NASA could even exist without Einstein's theory of relativity.
  • #5,829
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:01am Jun 27, 2017 2:01am
[quote=Exodus;10022260] {quote} I took until now to decide whether you were pulling my chain, in a pacifist dismissive sort of way, but I shall take it on face value. {quote}

No I was not pulling your chain, and don't know what gave you that idea! I agreed with you.
  • #5,830
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:04am Jun 27, 2017 2:04am
Scientists who were mysteriously found dead or murdered.

Stefan Marinov (Bulgarian Scientist) 7-15-1967

Eugene Franklin Mallove (American Scientist) 5-14-2004

Arie de Geus 11-11-2007

Mark R Tomion (American Scientist) 6-19- 2009


Man is a wretched creature!
  • #5,831
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:05am Jun 27, 2017 2:05am
Quoting Exodus
The whole GPS system is based upon synchronised time ( I have not studied Glonass nor Iridium ) and the computation of ranges. .
Do you not think it is odd that despite all these satellites for the global positioning system that aircraft still have to adhere to "Oceanic Procedures" for open water flights. Why would they not use satellites as there are so many of them ? So it's more important to allow our cars to have GPS positioning than transatlantic flights ? Seems odd to me. Or perhaps we are still using ground based stations with improved signal boost for the fixes ? So called GPS technology is no different to Loran. Except the fix is supposedly coming from an 4 or more orbiting satellites instead of a base station.
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  • #5,832
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:07am Jun 27, 2017 2:07am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Euro looking bullish. {image} {image}
Yup.
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  • #5,833
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:11am Jun 27, 2017 2:11am
Quoting DrManhatten
Scientists who were mysteriously found dead or murdered. Stefan Marinov (Bulgarian Scientist) 7-15-1967 Eugene Franklin Mallove (American Scientist) 5-14-2004 Arie de Geus 11-11-2007 Mark R Tomion (American Scientist) 6-19- 2009 Man is a wretched creature!
Doctor David Kelly: http://www.sxolsout.org.uk/zal.html
  • #5,834
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:13am Jun 27, 2017 2:13am
Quoting jen101
{quote} No "authors grabbing kudos." It's a fact. Apart from all space exploration... moon landings, ISS, Curiosity on Mars, even Hubble... I'm not sure NASA could even exist without Einstein's theory of relativity.
Or worded differently we could say NASA need Einstein's "THEORY" to keep the whole story going not to mention the funding, $19.1B for 2018
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  • #5,835
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:19am Jun 27, 2017 2:19am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Or worded differently we could say NASA need Einstein's "THEORY" to keep the whole story going not to mention the funding, $19.1B for 2018
What about the rest of them?

As of 2015, 70 different government space agencies are in existence; 13 of those have launch capability. Six government space agencies - the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), the European Space Agency (ESA), the China National Space Administration (CNSA), the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and the Russian Federal Space Agency (RFSA or Roscosmos) have full launch capabilities; these include the ability to launch and recover multiple satellites, deploy cryogenic rocket engines and operate extraterrestrial probes. Only three currently operating government space agencies in the world - RFSA and the CNSA and NASA are capable of human spaceflight as of 2016.

-Wikipedia
  • #5,836
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:27am Jun 27, 2017 2:27am
Quoting jen101
{quote} What about the rest of them? As of 2015, 70 different government space agencies are in existence; 13 of those have launch capability. Six government space agencies - the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), the European Space Agency (ESA), the China National Space Administration (CNSA), the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and the Russian Federal Space Agency (RFSA or Roscosmos) have full launch capabilities; these include the ability to launch and recover multiple...
Yep they all know what a good earner it has been.
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  • #5,837
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:28am Jun 27, 2017 2:28am
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  • #5,838
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:31am Jun 27, 2017 2:31am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Yep they all know what a good earner it has been.
How?
  • #5,839
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:34am Jun 27, 2017 2:34am
Quoting Magog
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https://www.ancient-code.com/25-facts-about-the-great-pyramid-of-giza/

Perhaps we have already been visited by more advanced civilisations.....
  • #5,840
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:37am Jun 27, 2017 2:37am
Quoting jen101
{quote} How?
In a similar way that Cancer research people shake a little box and people still put money in it.

The thermosphere is supposed to be as hot as 4500 deg F and the space station can hang out there no issues. We need to make tower blocks out of the same material.
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