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  • #2,061
  • Jun 24, 2017 11:37am Jun 24, 2017 11:37am
Quoting Retlaw
My pleasure! Let me start by saying that poruchik is the authority when it comes to using the ZUP indicators. There are so many versions so it's hard to say which one is the best. And then there are others who modified them (added features) as well. So I would say, pick one that suits you I have been developing EA's around the ZUP since 2012. (I'm not master of my emotions, greed and fear, when it comes to trading, so I like to work with EA's, they have no emotions) The HT 2 series used the ZUP_v120 NEN STAR (I even translated the Russian...
Many thanks Retlaw. Much appreciated answer. You're definitely right, I just have to find one that suits me and I think ZUP_135 is enough. I got used to it easily despite the fact it's my first time learning about harmonics trading. Somehow I understood easily how the patterns are formed. How to trade them and how price reacts when the patterns are finished and have been identified. I also think ZUP_135 can help me enough to learn more about harmonics pattern trading.

I'm thinking if I should practice identifying patterns manually or just let the ZUP do the job. What do you think?

Thanks again.
Patience and Discipline, these are the Holy Grail.
  • #2,062
  • Jun 24, 2017 11:57am Jun 24, 2017 11:57am
Quoting marcnathan88
{quote} Many thanks Retlaw. Much appreciated answer. You're definitely right, I just have to find one that suits me and I think ZUP_135 is enough. I got used to it easily despite the fact it's my first time learning about harmonics trading. Somehow I understood easily how the patterns are formed. How to trade them and how price reacts when the patterns are finished and have been identified. I also think ZUP_135 can help me enough to learn more about harmonics pattern trading. I'm thinking if I should practice identifying patterns manually or just...
Since you're new to harmonic patterns it would be good practice to learn to identify them manually first.
Once you grasp the concept, you can become a little lazier and start using indi's or even EA's
  • #2,063
  • Jun 25, 2017 6:10am Jun 25, 2017 6:10am
Quoting Retlaw
{quote} Since you're new to harmonic patterns it would be good practice to learn to identify them manually first. Once you grasp the concept, you can become a little lazier and start using indi's or even EA's
Using these harmonic pattern indicators can help me with practicing. When I see patterns drawn by these indicators I try to analyze the patterns and see how they were formed. Actually the indicators helped me a lot in understanding harmonics. When I first saw harmonics pattern I immediately turned away and ignored it. I thought back then it was pretty complicated to understand but the indicators helped a lot and now things are starting to get clear and make sense. I think I may still have a long way to go in learning to identify harmonics pattern manually because of the criteria used in identifying the patterns seem complicated to me. The fibs, the ratios and time if I'm not mistaken must be taken into account. I've also read it's pretty hard to identify them manually. One needs a keen eye. But I'm hoping that the learning curve would be easier with the use of indicator. The zigzag indicators you shared can also help me in practicing to identify patterns manually. One thing I figured is that in identifying harmonics pattern relevant price swings must be identified first because those swings forms the legs of the potential pattern.

One more thing do you happen to know or is there anybody here that knows of a zup indicator that only identifies particular set of patterns? Specifically these patterns.
Thanks in advance for answer. Thanks Retlaw.

  1. ABC Bullish/Bearish
  2. AB=CD Bullish/Bearish
  3. 3-Drives Bullish/Bearish
  4. Gartley Bullish/Bearish
  5. Butterfly Bullish/Bearish
  6. Bat Bullish/Bearish
  7. Crab Bullish/Bearish

Patience and Discipline, these are the Holy Grail.
  • #2,064
  • Jun 25, 2017 11:02am Jun 25, 2017 11:02am
Here's my first try of drawing and identifying harmonics pattern. I think I there's nothing wrong with them. I think I got them right. But I really don't know if I got it right really. I also don't know yet what to call those patterns. To me they almost look identical. Are those bat, butterflies or gartley or any other pattern maybe. Feedback, suggestions and anything are welcome.

I have two patterns on one of my favorite pair USD/JPY H4.

Pattern 1
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Pattern 2
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I have two patterns on EUR/JPY
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Two more patterns on GBP/JPY
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Patience and Discipline, these are the Holy Grail.
  • #2,065
  • Jun 25, 2017 4:35pm Jun 25, 2017 4:35pm
This might be useful for some, as a setup approach, then each one might use her own method for trade entry.
I also name here some Harmonic Indicators I used, I use these mainly for forex pairs, but applicable for commodities, stocks and other markets too.
Not bragging, since all I have done, spent time to review existing stuff, but anybody looking for harmonic indicators, I suggest to have a look at a post I had about indis a while ago - not too rusty yet!:
https://www.academia.edu/17278713/Ha...e_WWWilde_2015

Anyways, back to the current subject (of mine for you )..
Built some templates with alerts, still working on finishing just majors, gold, Dax and WTI.
Used several MT4 harmonic indicator inputs - mainly H1 and above TFs - generally up to weekly.
Harmonic indicators used: Korharmonics, THI V1.2, Carney formation seeker (web based), Ga1Search_patterns.
Marked the alert levels for setup, I am using the True TL alert v1.01 (TTL) for pop-up, possibly mail alerts.
Sound alert with the TTL indi is annoying though, since price at these levels might be struggling a lot.
Also marked yearly high and low levels for the banks to know where they need to take action
The alert goes on (and on and on!!) when price is near or at trend lines
I drew horizontal TLs with names of patterns, possibly with entry range, some with recommended SL levels.
NZDUSD I generally find being harmonically a nice pair, so I publish its tpl (template) to be checked by anybody interested, having MT4 to load the template on an empty graph of NzdUsd.
It is just an example, feel free to apply, try and comment PLZ!
This is just harmonics, no entry exactly defined other than the HTF ranges.
This is just a set-up alert for me to start looking for a more precise and defined entry.
Good luck, I will be glad if anybody can use it, or comment for improvement opportunity!
Should look like this when template loaded on NzdUsd MT4 graph:
https://i.gyazo.com/93a90a73e551c3345c2823b4a531a02c.png
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File Type: tpl NZDUSD-HPZs.tpl   22 KB | 630 downloads
  • #2,066
  • Jun 25, 2017 4:49pm Jun 25, 2017 4:49pm
Quoting marcnathan88
Here's my first try of drawing and identifying harmonics pattern. I think I there's nothing wrong with them. I think I got them right. But I really don't know if I got it right really. I also don't know yet what to call those patterns. To me they almost look identical. Are those bat, butterflies or gartley or any other pattern maybe. Feedback, suggestions and anything are welcome. I have two patterns on one of my favorite pair USD/JPY H4. Pattern 1 {image} Pattern 2 {image} I have two patterns on EUR/JPY {image} Two more patterns on GBP/JPY {image}...
My EurJpy current HP alerter template..
https://www.mql5.com/en/charts/72565...ncial-services
https://www.mql5.com/en/charts/72565...ncial-services
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File Type: tpl EurJpy-HPZs.tpl   18 KB | 589 downloads
  • #2,067
  • Jun 25, 2017 5:12pm Jun 25, 2017 5:12pm
Great work Gabor - thanks
  • #2,068
  • Jun 25, 2017 6:43pm Jun 25, 2017 6:43pm
Quoting marcnathan88
Here's my first try of drawing and identifying harmonics pattern. I think I there's nothing wrong with them. I think I got them right. But I really don't know if I got it right really. I also don't know yet what to call those patterns. To me they almost look identical. Are those bat, butterflies or gartley or any other pattern maybe. Feedback, suggestions and anything are welcome. I have two patterns on one of my favorite pair USD/JPY H4. Pattern 1 {image} Pattern 2 {image} I have two patterns on EUR/JPY {image} Two more patterns on GBP/JPY {image}...
Those are just the ZZ's.
You need to draw the fibs on those swings to identify a pattern.
Here's a little doc to get you going.
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  • #2,069
  • Jun 25, 2017 10:12pm Jun 25, 2017 10:12pm
Quoting lobogabor
{quote} My EurJpy current HP alerter template.. https://www.mql5.com/en/charts/72565...ncial-services https://www.mql5.com/en/charts/72565...ncial-services {file}
Thanks for the template. I'll check them out. What do you think of my patterns? Did I got them right? Am I off to a good start?

Thanks again Retlaw. I'll read those docs you provided and study more.

Quoting Retlaw
{quote} Those are just the ZZ's. You need to draw the fibs on those swings to identify a pattern. Here's a little doc to get you going. {file}
Patience and Discipline, these are the Holy Grail.
  • #2,070
  • Jun 30, 2017 4:18pm Jun 30, 2017 4:18pm
V1.28.3
Mediafire:
MT4: http://www.mediafire.com/file/6fbmitipq5c5cet/Joicy.zip
FXCM: http://www.mediafire.com/file/9y13gn1q5cx1ql5/Joicy.zip

GoogleDrive:
MT4: https://goo.gl/P65tSU
FXCM: https://goo.gl/rD4D5b

BugFix:
+ Important ZigZag bug fix.

Feature Improvements:
+ MT4: add ROTATE button to rotate charts in JoicyChartsManager (JCM).
+ MT4: JCM now can apply different template to different chart.
Inserted Video


+ MT4 JCM: F11 to enter/escape Full-Screen mode.
+ MT4 JCM: now can automatically reload previous session/profile.
+ MT4 JCM: Added Profile Toolbar to save/load session to/from file
+ MT4 JCM: Added Recent Profiles to reload closed session/profile
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  • #2,071
  • Jul 12, 2017 10:26am Jul 12, 2017 10:26am
i have an old version from the indicator , how to upgrade to the latest one?
what do i need to do?

Thanks Mark
  • #2,072
  • Jul 16, 2017 9:50pm Jul 16, 2017 9:50pm
hi guys, anyone kind enough to share harmonic dashboard that scan all pairs all tf showing harmonic patterns?
  • #2,073
  • Jul 28, 2017 5:04am Jul 28, 2017 5:04am
Dear Mark,

i got the message "system is not activated" , does it mean mean trial period is over?

can i get another trial?

Thanks
  • #2,074
  • Sep 12, 2017 12:07pm Sep 12, 2017 12:07pm
Hi Guys,

Im new to harmonic trading and am finding some difficulty getting my entry right, im either too early or too late. How do you guys go about finding an exact PRZ? Do you guys use mulitple confluences? Trend Lines, Fib time zones etc???

all the help is appreciated!
  • #2,075
  • Sep 18, 2017 3:33pm Sep 18, 2017 3:33pm
Quoting MarkJoy
V1.28.3 Mediafire: MT4: http://www.mediafire.com/file/6fbmitipq5c5cet/Joicy.zip FXCM: http://www.mediafire.com/file/9y13gn1q5cx1ql5/Joicy.zip...

Hey
i did All steps have been processed correctly but when i import the temlate on metatrader or fxcm said (system is not Activated)
how can i fix the prolblem can you help me ?
thx
  • #2,076
  • Oct 21, 2017 7:59pm Oct 21, 2017 7:59pm
Dose anyone know if there is a newer ZUP than 150 version and if so where can I get it?
  • #2,077
  • Oct 21, 2017 8:42pm Oct 21, 2017 8:42pm
I really like this Harmonic Trading. Here is my template and indicators.
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File Type: ex4 !SM_BPCT.ex4   11 KB | 913 downloads
File Type: ex4 #3 FFCal Panel (Black).ex4   71 KB | 908 downloads
File Type: ex4 _2 Access Panel (Black) (2).ex4   196 KB | 911 downloads
File Type: mq4 _5 Candles Suite (Black) (2).mq4   27 KB | 945 downloads
File Type: ex4 _5 Candles Suite (Black).ex4   35 KB | 930 downloads
File Type: tpl 150 classik + 3 dr + abcd_7_.tpl   95 KB | 1,019 downloads
File Type: ex4 CandleTime THV.ex4   2 KB | 871 downloads
File Type: mq4 CandleTime THV.mq4   2 KB | 920 downloads
File Type: ex4 NIhilist_Magic.ex4   7 KB | 932 downloads
  • #2,078
  • Oct 21, 2017 8:43pm Oct 21, 2017 8:43pm
Here is the rest of it.
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File Type: ex4 PipShow_v2v_Fusion.ex4   434 KB | 1,030 downloads
File Type: ex4 SUN+FAN_0.4.ex4   39 KB | 977 downloads
File Type: mq4 SUN+FAN_0.4.mq4   19 KB | 1,036 downloads
File Type: ex4 TDI Dashboard V2.ex4   20 KB | 1,036 downloads
File Type: mq4 TDI Dashboard V2.mq4   23 KB | 1,091 downloads
File Type: ex4 TDI-RSI-Dz-VHF_Adaptive_Alerts.ex4   305 KB | 1,027 downloads
File Type: ex4 ZUP_v150.ex4   1.2 MB | 1,448 downloads
  • #2,079
  • Oct 21, 2017 8:44pm Oct 21, 2017 8:44pm
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  • #2,080
  • Oct 21, 2017 10:26pm Oct 21, 2017 10:26pm
Quoting Forexholy
Dose anyone know if there is a newer ZUP than 150 version and if so where can I get it?
Last is ZUP 152.4 it is not free ( 55 USD)

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