Hi lNaijafx, Noel, Doubletop, and all who post here, i have been following this thread from the start, and have to say it is great, i missed the advanced concepts of daz in the trading room, if anyone could state the rules with a few charts to explain it ,it would be great fior all, i trade similar to this method, but i use a formula to get me into a trade.I do not enter till the entry target is met, i have been looking to use the 5 Ma but do not quite get how to use it for entry as there seems to be some variation on its use . The 5MA get one in earlier than my entry signal and the difference can be a lot of pips. also what is the RR for entry At 5 MA to target 1 FE , 2 FE and 3 FE, I will post my charts as i see moves setting up and would encourage comments to help all here,and keep this thread alive,have to go for now , Bye All Pat