How to find big investors who invest more than $10 Million

if a person has a profitable system need big amount like $10 million dollar or more then how find top investors invest big amount to make safe profit with the system ?

share your experience please

If you have a method that you can PROVE is profitable on a REAL account for at least SIX months you can start here:

http://rapacapintro.com/account/leaderboard

this is bad way for advertising the site and i am not looking for these kind of sites ..i am looking for: how to find top investors

if i have a 100% profitable system .i will keep it for my self and not even trade it real because i don't need money that time i just need to rest in peace i have done the impossible for sure
good luck in finding big investors but believe me they are so hard to convenience as they think they will never get broke one day as long as they watch there spending very well a feeling you have when you have a lot of money and what you spend to your capital size is so small .believe me wealth don't comes with greedy .
you want greedy people look for small investors and you may end with managing a 100kilos .
i know a lot that have end broke not watching there spending .
i advice you to open a demo and trade it with your system and keep a record with you and better to be several demos with different time intervals .
as i said if i have a wining system i will just rest in peace
all have a nice day

I am not advertising a site. They place money with traders. If you want investors this is a good place to start. Unless you have a verifiable track record trading OPM no one is going to give you ten million dollars.

First of all, wealthy investors with millions or few hundred ks are unlikely to entrust their money with someone online. They rather seek private trader and fund manager with track records and consistent risk management.

Please note that % is nothing in terms of any accounts smaller than 10k to the eyes of those so called higher net worth individuals/investors. A minimum 100k trading account is likely to capture their attentions due to being more relevant and serious in terms of managing more money. IN fact my opinion is that i won't take any person's account stats into account if they are trading less than 20k. As i don't find them serious enough to take up the guts to gamble 20k on Forex if they claimed their system is profitable.


The reason why i said gamble is because most people just prove it eventually losing all their capitals and keep pumping money into brokers and becoming an addict rather than a real trader




Alot of people tend to say, its the same but its not true. One can make 100% on 1k, 10k, or even 100k. But can do they do it on 100M? or 1 Billion? sadly, it isn't true.

Assuming if your system is really profitable with really good risk and money management.

If you start with 1k, with just a compounding return of 1% per week. Here's the results:
1 year: 1612.23 -> ROI: around 60%
5 year: 10,892.55 -> ROI around 1000%

If you are serious about your own system and looking for real investment, pool at least 10k by yourself or others.

10k with compounding of 1% per week:
1 year: 16122.26 : ROI around 60%
5 year: 108,925.54 : ROI around 1000%

Its about dollar per se. Note that, i am just giving a profit target of 1 % per week up to 4%++ per month, compared to many retail traders wannabe with their get rich dream of claiming making 15% one day, 100% 1 week and etc, because the money per se to each individual is quite irrelevant. What is 1K to me if i am a millionaire? what is 1k to me, if i am just a student? that meant alot more for a student whom is schooling and not having a job or rich family etc.

Now tweet the system to 2% per week: Using 1K ONLY
1 year: 2587.07 ROI about 250%
5 year: 115,888.74. ROI about 11588%.

Now when you achieved a consistency and strict risk management, and really so called profitable system. Why don't you use your 5 year accumulation to roll into a millionaire and billionaire?

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So if you insist on getting investors, and really thinks that you can get naive investors, you can do like what orabi said, you can find a pool of many small investors to pump up your master account through PAMM or MAM services.

1) create a blog/basic website
2) sign up for a public pamm
3) advertise later on with track records

I have seen many pamms started with mere thousands and started to managed more than few hundred thousands, but sadly they can't handle that kind of money psychologically due to not having experience and exposure and not willing to take losses as by following their so called profitable system. Which is then why they started to suffer in DD and make more mistakes.

Check on picture pamm 1. an example of traders not able to handle bigger amounts which led to dd the same or almost the same as banked in profits, which makes it pointless.

While comparing with.


statement 123 which is just a 1:2 , 1:3 . 1-3 trades per day kind of set up with an edge of proper risk management and consistency with mere 45% hit rates using only 25k deposits and generated up to 205k profits through a small span of 3 - 4 months. Therefore, i find it ridiculous that if a trading system is really profitable, the number one rule is to make sure there's risk management and following % probability to take losses as well.

Yet most traders are blinded over their initial profits making and endanger their account with inconsistency through changing of system and set ups and leverage from time to time and suffering heavy draw downs.

Note 1: Trading profits is not dd, trading capital is in underwater is DD.

A good example of successful organization that success through PAMM is for example. perfectofx.com managing https://perfectofx.com/products managing up to 34.6 million dollars, 1412 investors, 24514 dollars per investor on average.

30.8 million dollars, 1405 investors, 21924 dollars per investor on average

35.8 million dollars, 1648 investors, 21742 dollars per investor on average

through 2 years or more of track records, then only people will be willing and be convinced.

where as pamm 1 is a just a public individual pamm that's likely to fail over time as i have seen majority of them failed within 1 year despite having track records due to inconsistency.

Why am i saying this , is because i trade more than 100k, so i know the differences and the opinions on smaller accounts and traders that they think they are found the holy grail. If they really found it, they will hide and keep quiet and generate revenue on their own. As through compounding and increasing hit rates, one is likely to achieve real results.

You might get more money pump into your pamm/mam after your initial deposits from smaller investors starts to accumulate, and with more substantial risk management in terms of DD, trade management, leverage and etc and last but not least, consistency. Then the bigger funds will find you ideally to be invested. In fact, my most online corporations and funds look for consistent pamms to allocate some of their funds to be manage to diversify their investment and risks.

However, without concrete back up and professionalism it won't last long.

One example of failure : http://forex-team.com/ | http://www.myfxbook.com/members/fore...ex-team/426010 . The failure comes in after consistency is breached. Check the history with 6.60 lots executed, and how months of accumulations can fall within a short while with more investors pulling out.

So, i wish you all the best, and i am providing experience and honest opinions from my end, and in no way to show off etc.

I think you gave him a great idea to start with it is so sad and shame some people rush to there mouth or keyboard before taking a breath looking at what others can help them with .
thank you man have a nice day

you proved that you have some cheap ideas in your head .
most will take them out by the age of 50 and in that time they will regret how they were having such cheap ideas
they have lost a lot of joy and respect
all have a nice day

thank you for your opinion and endorsing mine .
about me and my real opinion .OK .
I have reached a strong opinion that no one really deserve your effort and money .why shall i make money for people and in the end they will forget or become more greedy and for sure if i lose for one time they will forget all my good things and start down grading me with many ways .
i can live with little dollars per day i prefer living this way all my life than living wealthy making a penny for someone else even if he is my brother or father

I can see your view, i have learned from another trader facing the same issue that his investors or clients just fool around with him after he makes money and only demanded the same and yet payout is insignificant to the profits he have generated for them. And one of the funny thing is, profits generated for 1st quarter in dd in 2nd quarter, they will assumed it as net loss and dd, and make a big fuss out of it. But then account pnl is yearly basis, so i find them ignorant.

to the rich, this is just another casino. Unless they have the mindset and intelligence of warren buffet.


Most of these investors or so called wealthy folks are ignorant, as its a world of capitalism, they provide the capital, and you work. They only enjoy the times you make money for them while neglecting the risks and down fall of it. Just like any business, we can make money and lose money during crisis, or any kind of factors, or losses over competition and etc. In any trader's career, there will be down times and losses, and high time making higher profits, its how good a risk manager the trader is in managing his down time to survive through and then thrive in the high times.

And its true, eventually, it will be a whole lot easier to trade for own self to be accountable for own self, rather than living up to other's expectation which may not be fulfilled every time.

Still in end, it all goes down to what we are living for and pursuing for. Some people a million is never enough, where as some even 10k is good enough.

Another example of successful trader trading himself/private mam. Why says so?

Deposits: $135347.06
Withdrawals: $257398.17


trading profits.

go work for a major trading desk and be a proven money maker.....or first make a million then look for investors ....

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The World is full of people that want to invest that or more, but this is a Task that
you would be competing against big brokerage firms and hedge Funds for them.
As you probably understand they invest millions to have the right financial products
and the right people to "sell" these financial products. It was mentioned that some investor
are not so savy in the financial arena, so the "selling" skills, the nice office in the money districts
and connections becomes more important then the strategies themselves.

Bottom line is that if you can not attract investors of, say 5K ,10k or something like that
would be very difficult you could attract the 10M investors.

If you do not have a track record to show, you must at least have a full presentation of
your "financial product" and all the "why" and "how" would make money. For people to listen to you
you may to disclose a lot more then you think. Be ready with a good Non-disclosure/non-circumvention
no competition agreement in case they do not like what you present to them.

Understand also that the money you can make out of these deals IS NOT those 10-30% that wanabe
forex money managers want to charge per profit made. At most you will get a Yearly management fee of about 1% of
the Total invested up front and some 2%-3% of the net earnings.

Our group, not having an established "reputation", nor the connections, nor the time an money, nor
the skills to "SELL" our financial forex product, took the route of partner with a Brokerage firm to offer
it to the Investors world. And this is also not easy task.

For us, the hardest past was not to come up with the strategy itself that projects around 40% per year,
but was to being able to present it in a way that makes sense to experts in the field of investment.
Remember also that most of these experts are not so familiar with the forex market and a lot of the
presentation lingo has to be adapted to what they are familiar to.

I hope this help.

J.

thank you all for share your opinion .. actually the system make low but safe profit so its good for big amounts so it not worth to run on my own money because for example with 3% per month on a $10K account i make 3600$ per year that is not too much money however the profit 3% per month with a safely trading is a good amount of profit on big investment .

dose it worth to try big bank to invest in a such system ? or is there any other way ?

Thanks mate. I was looking for something like this. You just made my day. Have a great holiday

I agree with you that perhaps your strategy would not make enough for you to live from if your investment capital
is limited and that finding alternatives to make more initially is a good idea, but do not disregard the fact that a 3%
per month in in a consistence based and with low dd is an heck of good strategy under any financial measure and good for your own money regardless of how much it is.

I am sure any Bank would be interested... but like I said, the problem is to get them to listen. So, in this case
it is true that is not "what you know" but "who you know" that is more important.. in any case they they would like to know all the details about it.

J.

i am completely agree with "who you know" , but how i can find someone works with top banks , i mean a person that banks listen to him to convince him to invest with such a system ? or how i can convince banks ?

I told you where to start. Apparently you are too impatient to follow the steps necessary to catch the eye of larger investors.

http://blogs.cfainstitute.org/invest...0-years-video/

I saw that video a couple weeks ago and even though it is pretty much geared towards the relation between an institution and its clients it still gives an interesting perspective regarding the mind of the high net worth individual.

The competition for the high net worth individual's money is fierce and except if you have insane, verifiable (checked by an independent third party) and consistent results year in and year out you will have a hard time attracting capital to your cause. The private wealth manager that I had the chance to worked with during an internship and that dealt with high net worth individuals had the good fortune to have in his own close entourage some rich folks with whom he already had strong relations, some since childhood. If that is not your case, good luck trying to attract this kind of capital from an investor. You need credibility to gain trust and potential clients will not give you their trust so easily, you need more than just a system that has proven profitable in some backtest or on a small live account. You are competing against firms that have big tall shiny buildings, the smartest brains that this planet has to offer and huge marketing department. You must have an hell of a product if you think that you might be able to compete straight away with that... If I were you I would do like many others have proposed, start small and build a name and reputation for yourself, there are no easy shortcuts to big money except maybe the lottery. This is pretty much the way I see it but, of course and as always, I could be wrong.

Yes as you said it's the only way ... and it will take years.

Also, remember that millions attract millions. Unless you build a fortune with your system, you won't attract big players.

Typical of Forex Factory. A legitimate question in post #1, A legitimate answer in post #2, then post after post of unnecessary crap.