DislikedIMO, if planning on going the full route to live with firms, instead of copying 5 with 4 firms, why not do 1 with 20 firms. Tradesyncer can do that. In this manner, you are not losing as much when going to live. You can also trade normal and not have to blow accounts and start over (if the firm even allows you) Of course, the firms, such as Tradeify, Take Profit and MFFU, where there is a benefit to live, you can do the 5 each.Ignored
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- Apr 3, 2026 3:11pm Apr 3, 2026 3:11pm
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I also like Tradesyncer but it's not perfect. If so, they wouldn't suggest to use an option to push market orders only in their system. Copy trading always involves some risks. Also refer to the following AI answer:
When I use Tradersyncer to copy trades with limit orders, do I come across some problems?
Short answer: yes—limit orders work, but they’re where most trade-copier headaches show up. Not deal-breakers, just things you need to understand so you don’t get surprised.
Here’s what typically goes wrong with Tradersyncer + limit orders
Partial fills (most common issue)
When I use Tradersyncer to copy trades with limit orders, do I come across some problems?
Short answer: yes—limit orders work, but they’re where most trade-copier headaches show up. Not deal-breakers, just things you need to understand so you don’t get surprised.
Here’s what typically goes wrong with Tradersyncer + limit orders
Partial fills (most common issue)
- Master account gets filled, but a follower gets partial or no fill
- Happens because:
- Price moved a tick
- Liquidity wasn’t there for all accounts
- Result: position size mismatch across accounts
This is unavoidable with limits in fast markets (/NQ, news spikes, opens).
Price mismatch due to latency
- Even tiny latency means:
- Master places limit at X
- Follower receives it milliseconds later
- Price already traded through → order just sits
- Worse during:
- 1-minute scalping
- Breakouts
- High-volatility sessions
Tick size & symbol differences
If accounts are not 100% identical, limit orders can fail or get rejected:
- Different tick size rules
- Slightly different contracts (micro vs full)
- Different sessions or exchange routing
Market orders don’t care—limit orders do.
Queue priority problem
Your master account:
- Is first in the order book
Follower accounts:
- Are behind everyone else
So even if the price touches your limit:
- Master fills
- Followers don’t
This is normal exchange behavior, not a Tradersyncer bug.
OCO / bracket timing quirks
With limits:
- Entry fills at different times per account
- Brackets (SL/TP) may activate out of sync
- Can cause:
- Early stop on one account
- Missed TP on another
Especially noticeable when scaling in/out.
Prop firm rule risk 
If one account fills and another doesn’t:
- You might unintentionally:
- Exceed max contracts
- Violate consistency rules
- Leave “ghost exposure” on some accounts
This matters a lot with prop firms.
Best practices (what pros actually do)
For copy trading + scalping:
Use market orders for entries
Use limit orders for exits only
Trade during high liquidity periods
Keep all accounts identical (broker, data feed, contract type)
If you insist on limit entries:
- Accept that some accounts will miss trades
- Reduce account count
- Avoid breakout chasing
Bottom line
Limit orders aren’t “broken” in Tradersyncer—but for multi-account fast trading, they’re structurally unreliable.
If you want, tell me:
- Asset (/NQ, /GC, etc.)
- Order style (breakout vs pullback)
- Number of accounts
I can suggest the least painful setup for your style.
Got it — /GC 
That actually helps, because gold behaves much better with limit orders than /NQ… but there are still a few traps when you’re copying trades.
Here’s the GC-specific reality with Tradersyncer + limit orders:
What’s GOOD about GC for limit-copying
Deeper book than equities during most sessions
Slower price velocity (less “blink and you miss it”)
Cleaner pullbacks → limits make sense
Tick size is fixed (0.1 = $10), fewer weird rejections
For a 1-minute GC scalper like you, this is one of the best markets to even attempt limit-copy trading.
GC-specific problems you’ll still see
Limit touch ≠ fill (queue issue still exists)
Even on GC:
- Master fills
- Follower sits unfilled
- Price trades one tick and leaves
Especially common:
- At round numbers (e.g., 2000.0, 2050.0)
- During COMEX pit open
- Around US data releases
Partial fills during volatility spikes
Gold loves to:
- Sit still → then explode 5–10 ticks instantly
- Limits get partially filled on some accounts
Result:
- Account A: 1 contract
- Account B: 0 contracts
- Account C: 2 contracts
That’s how copy trading turns messy fast.
Bracket desync hurts more on GC
GC moves “chunky”:
- Stops and targets are often tight in ticks
- If entry fills at slightly different prices:
- One account stops
- Another survives
- Another hits TP
You end up managing three different trades instead of one.
How pros trade GC with Tradersyncer (this works)
Best setup for GC
Entries:
Market orders (yes, even on GC)
Exits:
Limit TP + Stop market SL
Why:
- GC slippage on market entries is usually 1 tick max
- That’s cheaper than:
- Missed trades
- Rule violations
- Manual cleanup stress
If you insist on limit entries (safe version)
If your edge is pullback-based, do this:
Place limits 1–2 ticks inside, not at extremes
Avoid:
- News
- Pit open (08:20–08:40 ET)
Reduce copier speed lag if possible
Trade fewer accounts simultaneously
Accept upfront: some trades will not copy cleanly
GC-specific golden rules 
- Never use limit entries for breakouts
- Never use limit entries during momentum ignition
- Market in → limit out = highest consistency
- Always monitor for unfilled follower accounts
Bottom line (GC version)
For /GC + Tradersyncer:
- Limit orders are usable, unlike /NQ
- But market entries are still superior for copying
- The cost of 1 tick slippage is nothing compared to copier chaos
If you want, tell me:
- Number of accounts
- Contracts per account
- Scalping vs pullback
I’ll dial in a GC-optimized copier workflow for you.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
- #4,785
- Apr 3, 2026 3:33pm Apr 3, 2026 3:33pm
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Youtube day trading influencer Nutty Bar Trader has spent $14,583 to make $44,891 from prop firm accounts in this year. Actually, this is a similar pattern among other fluencers like Patrick Wieland, Alpine Trader, Trade by Matt, ...etc. Seriously, if you have an edge and you can afford to spend $14K as a seed money for trading, why don't you trade using your own money? You don't need to follow up all the ever changing rules which are significantly skewed against you and you can take 100% of your profit. Unless you are to abuse some vulnerabilities of prop firm systems like those influencers (frequent blowing off of accounts using high leverage, which is a gambling indeed), it doesn't make sense. And those vulnerabilities won't last long as we can see now.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
- #4,789
- Apr 3, 2026 4:36pm Apr 3, 2026 4:36pm
- Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Hoc Etiam Transibit.... | 6,085 Posts
So you guys also agree that prop firm businesses are by nature designed for gamblers using high leverages. Alpine Trader once said his accounts never have survived more than 100 days... 
For average, conservative traders using reasonable leverages don't need their services. Make sense? 
For average, conservative traders using reasonable leverages don't need their services. Make sense? Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
- #4,791
- Edited 9:50pm Apr 3, 2026 7:14pm | Edited 9:50pm
So you guys also agree that prop firm businesses are by nature designed for gamblers using high leverages. Alpine Trader once said his accounts never have survived more than 100 days...
Alpine has a system with a >4:1 risk to reward while also trading 33-50% per trade. It's high accuracy but when he loses its hard to dig out the hole... on the other side, 10 wins in a row and he's in payout territory. he's playing the prop firm payout game and banking on the winning streak periods quickly reaching payout before the inevitable losing streak blows the account.
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- Apr 3, 2026 8:48pm Apr 3, 2026 8:48pm
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Intermediate Trader | 6,412 Posts
Extreme gut feeling trader
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- Apr 3, 2026 8:52pm Apr 3, 2026 8:52pm
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Extreme gut feeling trader
- #4,794
- Apr 3, 2026 8:54pm Apr 3, 2026 8:54pm
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Intermediate Trader | 6,412 Posts
So you guys also agree that prop firm businesses are by nature designed for gamblers using high leverages. Alpine Trader once said his accounts never have survived more than 100 days...
Extreme gut feeling trader
- #4,795
- Edited 9:10pm Apr 3, 2026 8:57pm | Edited 9:10pm
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Intermediate Trader | 6,412 Posts
EVERYONE SPECIAL Sneak Peek for the family here...... WHAT's COMING AHEAD 
2026 WE ARE GOING INTERNATIONAL
Working on something for last 6 weeks or so.....
Trading Brain - Side note all the trades in the ledger so far are NO_TRADE i.e B level setups and all are winners its just the RR too tight...
Features - Give setups, indepth details of the setup, during the setup is running analyze and improvise like move to breakeven or trail or kill if it invalid before the SL
2026 WE ARE GOING INTERNATIONAL
Working on something for last 6 weeks or so.....
Trading Brain - Side note all the trades in the ledger so far are NO_TRADE i.e B level setups and all are winners its just the RR too tight...
Features - Give setups, indepth details of the setup, during the setup is running analyze and improvise like move to breakeven or trail or kill if it invalid before the SL
Extreme gut feeling trader
EVERYONE SPECIAL Sneak Peek for the family here...... WHAT's COMING AHEAD
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- Apr 3, 2026 11:26pm Apr 3, 2026 11:26pm
- Joined May 2017 | Status: Intermediate Trader | 6,412 Posts
Extreme gut feeling trader
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- Edited 3:30am Apr 4, 2026 12:51am | Edited 3:30am
- Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Penny Lot Lifestyle | 653 Posts
So you guys also agree that prop firm businesses are by nature designed for gamblers using high leverages. Alpine Trader once said his accounts never have survived more than 100 days...
Lets talk about real and proven traders - look up how much Mark Minervini makes per year (+200% smth), or Oliver Kell (once +900%), or how much people make in U.S. Investing Championship.
The only one proven (stock swing) trader who could have kept up with props in his peak is Kristjan Kullamägi who has made +2000 smth % per year. But it was during exeptional bull market. Maybe Tom Hougaard but hard to find real stats on him.
Buffett aint trader but he has made 22% on average. Per YEAR. And no investor or trader hasn´t beaten him in a long run.
Prop firm wants you to be better than Wall Street stars.
Im on Lucid Flex now:
50k account: 2k loss, 3k to pass. It is 150% profit needed in short time. Then I need to make ab 4k to withdraw 2k - balance locks at +100 and I get 50% of the profit, so if I want 2k DD left after withdrawal, I need +4100.
Basically 3k eval + 4k profit vs 2k max loss. I have to make 305% of profit, to get my 2k.(And get 90% of 2K ... so basically I get less than 30% of 6100 I made and then taxes also take 22% of that 1800 .. pfffff....)
Thats not how trading works in a long run.
One that can make 305% per month for 2 years, starting with 2k, would end up with 758 quadrillion, that is 1700 x more than there is money and assets on this planet. 7500 x GDP (1yr) of the world, every country counted. 1 year that kind of growth: "only" 39 billion.
So there is 0 possibility that social media people make as much as they show you. They feed money back to props and more than you think. Or props would have gone belly up and the world would have noticed in every other way too. It would be in the news, everywhere.
Prop and it´s risks are very asymmetrical, your loss is the price of the challenge, so you can be net profitable on props even if you are not a profitable trader. But yes, it is a gamble. And blow ups here and there.
Props won´t even let you further from gamble - thats why there are eval, 5-6 payouts, small live. You cant be building your account over the time to live off of it. Some take you to live even after 30 green days, no payout needed. F* that.
Lets play!
Edit: made a mistake, 7100 profit is needed before withdrawal, it is 355%. Makes it even more absurd. But point stays the same.
Markets will move to the right.
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- Apr 4, 2026 2:02am Apr 4, 2026 2:02am
- Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Trader | 1,005 Posts
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before