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  • First Post: Edited 11:45pm Jan 5, 2007 2:21pm | Edited 11:45pm
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
This one is dedicated to Dobbie, who told me I ought to make a guide describing my methods. While theoretically I could take this system and make money off of it, I'd rather see everyone benefit. If you should so decide to claim this method as your own, so be it, and I hope you can sleep soundly at night! I would like to have credit for this though.

Just as a precursor, what this method COULD do for you after 6 months of backtesting:

GBP/USD 1903 PIPS
USD/CHF 1061 PIPS
AUD/JPY 692 PIPS
USD/JPY 891 PIPS


As of now, I have started forward testing this week and am currently up about 700 PIPS in one week, which has admittedly been just a lucky catch. If I were to use my method (which I am), I would stick to volatile pairs.. i.e. GBP/USD.


So now that you know what this system COULD do, here is HOW it works:

First, get out your handy dandy Daily Chart(GBP/USD)

Then look for pivot points! Pretty easy, I know... But some of us may not know what pivot points look like, so let me describe them to you:

A price will hit a minimum or a maximum.
After that minimum or maximum, you must wait for the price to extend below the LOW (for maximums) and above the HIGH (for minimums). I usually use the spread.

A real world example:
GBP/USD
On November 16th, 2006 it reaches a Minimum of 1.8831
So, we observe the HIGH of that day, which happens to be 1.8966
We then add the spread to this, which for OANDA, the spread is typically 3.
Our magic number is 1.8969!


Now, the other part of my system...
RSI

Set an RSI(10) on your graph. I would draw 2 extra horizontal trendlines on your RSI at 40 and 60.

Now there are several scenarios(rules) that will indicate whether to actually buy in our real world example:

NOTE: If a BUY scenario is not reached within 3 days(3 BARS), then we do not act upon the pivot point. That is to say there are 3 bars between the MIN/MAX day and today.


If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is sloping UP, ABOVE 50, then we BUY.

If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is sloping UP,
JUST came from 30, and now ABOVE 40, then we BUY.

If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is sloping DOWN,
ABOVE 50, we do NOTHING.

Otherwise, If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is BELOW 50 we do NOTHING.



We then sell out when the next pivot point exists, EVEN if it is 2 bars later.. Again this means a MAXIMUM must develop and the next bar must not exceed it, and also go below the LOW of the MAXIMUM.

NOTE: If a new maximum develops before the pivot point happens, we keep riding!

ALSO, we set the stop loss to either the minimum that we bought near or 100 PIPS, whichever is less.

Now I assume we are all intelligent and would be able to reverse everything for a sell position, but if you have any questions feel free to ask. The only major thing is using a value of 40 instead of 60 and 30 instead of 70 for the RSI(10) scenarios.

As they say here in Texas, there's no such thing as a dumb question.

Good luck to all

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http://home.comcast.net/~guy876921/Picture_2.png


Alright, I had no photo editing software so I just used short lines... You should get the gist though...

Basically red lines are min/max's and yellow lines are the magic numbers..

Now when the magic numbers are hit that's when i check the RSI(Purple lines)

As you can see the RSI isn't quite below 60 on the first trade COMING FROM 70 (see above scenario), so I wait until it is to confirm, then sell at the green line...

I then buy at the next magic number to get rid of that trade...

With a new magic number being crossed i check the RSI again (purple line) and it is not quite above 50, so i wait until it is, then buy at the green line, and sell at the next magic number...

The process keeps repeating, but you don't always buy and sell... you must see what the scenario is.
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:28pm Jan 5, 2007 2:28pm
  •  pipmyway
  • | Joined Oct 2006 | Status: MEMBER | 21 Posts
kharvell,

Thanks for putting this out here for all of us. I will definitely look into this.
Have a great weekend.
My office is everywhere
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:32pm Jan 5, 2007 2:32pm
  •  dobbie11
  • | Joined May 2006 | Status: Member | 325 Posts
Thanks kharvell for taking the time to post this. I will read this over the weekend and give u some imput and I am sure u will get other imput from other members also. Once again thanks
Quoting kharvell
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This one is dedicated to Dobbie, who told me I ought to make a guide describing my methods. While theoretically I could take this system and make money off of it, I'd rather see everyone benefit. If you should so decide to claim this method as your own, so be it, and I hope you can sleep soundly at night! I would like to have credit for this though.

Just as a precursor, what this method COULD do for you after 6 months of backtesting:

GBP/USD 1903 PIPS
USD/CHF 1061 PIPS
AUD/JPY 692 PIPS
USD/JPY 891 PIPS

As of now, I have started forward testing this week and am currently up about 700 PIPS in one week, which has admittedly been just a lucky catch. If I were to use my method (which I am), I would stick to volatile pairs.. i.e. GBP/USD.


So now that you know what this system COULD do, here is HOW it works:

First, get out your handy dandy Daily Chart(GBP/USD)

Then look for pivot points! Pretty easy, I know... But some of us may not know what pivot points look like, so let me describe them to you:

A price will hit a minimum or a maximum.
After that minimum or maximum, you must wait for the price to extend below the LOW (for maximums) and above the HIGH (for minimums). I usually use the spread.

A real world example:
GBP/USD
On November 16th, 2006 it reaches a Minimum of 1.8831
So, we observe the HIGH of that day, which happens to be 1.8966
We then add the spread to this, which for OANDA, the spread is typically 3.
Our magic number is 1.8969!


Now, the other part of my system...
RSI

Set an RSI(10) on your graph. I would draw 2 extra horizontal trendlines on your RSI at 40 and 60.

Now there are several scenarios(rules) that will indicate whether to actually buy in our real world example:

NOTE: If a BUY scenario is not reached within 3 days(3 BARS), then we do not act upon the pivot point. That is to say there are 3 bars between the MIN/MAX day and today.


If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is sloping UP, ABOVE 50, then we BUY.

If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is sloping UP,
JUST came from 80, and now ABOVE 40, then we BUY.

If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is sloping DOWN,
ABOVE 50, we do NOTHING.

Otherwise, If our magic number 1.8969 is reached and the RSI(10) is BELOW 50 we do NOTHING.


We then sell out when the next pivot point exists, EVEN if it is 2 bars later.. Again this means a MAXIMUM must develop and the next bar must not exceed it, and also go below the LOW of the MAXIMUM.

NOTE: If a new maximum develops before the pivot point happens, we keep riding!

Now I assume we are all intelligent and would be able to reverse everything for a sell position, but if you have any questions feel free to ask. The only major thing is using a value of 40 instead of 60 for the RSI(10) scenario.

As they say here in Texas, there's no such thing as a dumb question.

Oh and I am sorry there are no pictures, I can't figure it out on my Mac, so please be forgiving

Good luck to all
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  •  cesarnc
  • Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Shoot all the clowns.. Shoot'em all | 14,667 Posts
let's start the dumb questions, shall we?

What time frame to perform this strategy? Hour?

Thanks....

"Black gold, Texas tea" - just learned that with Michael More....
 
 
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  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
Quoting cesarnc
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let's start the dumb questions, shall we?

What time frame to perform this strategy? Hour?

Thanks....

"Black gold, Texas tea" - just learned that with Michael More....
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As I mention in my post, get out that handy dandy daily chart... the beauty of this system is how low maintenance it really is...
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:38pm Jan 5, 2007 2:38pm
  •  dobbie11
  • | Joined May 2006 | Status: Member | 325 Posts
Well I am outta here. See everyone later. Great Week also over 300 pips.
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:39pm Jan 5, 2007 2:39pm
  •  cesarnc
  • Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Shoot all the clowns.. Shoot'em all | 14,667 Posts
Quoting kharvell
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As I mention in my post, get out that handy dandy daily chart... the beauty of this system is how low maintenance it really is...
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Sorry, didn't get it... poor language skills here (that's embarassing)... You mean to trade the daily?

Forgive me for this inconvenience...

P.S. may have been dumb question #2.. Promisse to stop here
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:40pm Jan 5, 2007 2:40pm
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
Quoting cesarnc
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Sorry, didn't get it... poor language skills here (that's embarassing)... You mean to trade the daily?

Forgive me for this inconvenience...

P.S. may have been dumb question #2.. Promisse to stop here
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Ohhhh that's totally understandable! Yes I mean to trade the Daily only
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:42pm Jan 5, 2007 2:42pm
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
Quoting dobbie11
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Well I am outta here. See everyone later. Great Week also over 300 pips.
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Nice job with the 300 PIPS dobbie! You'll have to help me with my short term game, because quite frankly, I suck
 
 
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  •  REPApips
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Hi Kharvell,

To what price is the RSI applied? Close, Open, High, Low, Median, etc.

Thanks for sharing your method with us.
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:49pm Jan 5, 2007 2:49pm
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
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Hi Kharvell,

To what price is the RSI applied? Close, Open, High, Low, Median, etc.

Thanks for sharing your method with us.

I believe OANDA uses Close.
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:50pm Jan 5, 2007 2:50pm
  •  atheer1
  • Joined Oct 2006 | Status: Member | 4,056 Posts
Nice,

Would you mind to add some examples for clarification,with charts please.


Atheer1
atheer1
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 2:53pm Jan 5, 2007 2:53pm
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
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Nice,

Would you mind to add some examples for clarification,with charts please.


Atheer1

Working on charts for you guys.. I have a Mac with no paint so I'm seeing what I can do
 
 
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  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
http://home.comcast.net/~guy876921/Picture_2.png


Alright, I had no photo editing software so I just used short lines... You should get the gist though...

Basically red lines are min/max's and yellow lines are the magic numbers..

Now when the magic numbers are hit that's when i check the RSI(Purple lines)

As you can see the RSI isn't quite below 60 on the first trade COMING FROM 70 (see above scenario), so I wait until it is to confirm, then sell at the green line...

I then buy at the next magic number to get rid of that trade...

With a new magic number being crossed i check the RSI again (purple line) and it is not quite above 50, so i wait until it is, then buy at the green line, and sell at the next magic number...

The process keeps repeating, but you don't always buy and sell... you must see what the scenario is.
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 3:28pm Jan 5, 2007 3:28pm
  •  notme32
  • | Joined Sep 2006 | Status: Member | 677 Posts
i would try this methode for next week , lets see if i can get some pips with this.

BTW whah u mean by scenario ? whos scenario ?
I Deeply Love My Virtual Life In Virtual World , RLC
 
 
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  • Jan 5, 2007 3:33pm Jan 5, 2007 3:33pm
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
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i would try this methode for next week , lets see if i can get some pips with this.

BTW whah u mean by scenario ? whos scenario ?
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the scenarios are listed above

note that they will be reversed in a sell position
 
 
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  • Jan 6, 2007 10:56am Jan 6, 2007 10:56am
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
Forex2stay has posed some very interesting and relevant questions that I feel could benefit everyone so I'm posting them here..

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Hey Kharvell,

Just looked over your strategy. You've put together some nice information. Thanks for sharing. I have a question for you. I'll use your example to explain. Say on the first day price hit's your magic number 1.8969 and surpasses it by 50 pips. RSI never confirms the trade. Later in the day price drops down and closes below the magic #. Let's say 1.8929. On the second day RSI confirms. Does price still only have to hit the magic number or does it have to exceed the previous days high?

I hope that all made sense.

Thanks!
Brent

Haha I think I got your question... the answer is yes, the price must be above the magic number AND a confirming RSI must be present.. However, if RSI is showing a good sign, it will likely break out above the # soon so worry not

Ohhh and I forgot to mention, if it takes 3 days to break out above the # again, just forget about it, it's too unstable

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k I understand...what about the new high on the day it broke the magic number, but RSI was did not confirm does price now have to break above that also?

The other question I have is do you wait until the bar closes before entering? On your example would you have entered on the close of the 19th to make sure RSI confirmed?

Thanks again!
Brent

Hmmm... good questions... If a new high develops, and the next bar goes below the LOW of that high bar, then you now have a new pivot point! You are looking to sell, so you must check the RSI. But if it does not go below the LOW, then you still use the first MINIMUM as your pivot... Like I said this is good for 3 days. Whatever the magic number is on that minimum is when you buy...

Also, I would consider the RSI observations about 70% reality and 30% intuition.. If you have strong reason to believe a condition will be met i.e. thick green bar, and the RSI is sloping up at 50, you're probably going to want to buy it. But generally I will not wait til close to buy because the RSI will usually cross the 50 before the close
 
 
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  •  bagovino
  • Joined Oct 2005 | Status: Straight Pippin' | 673 Posts
Interesting system. I have been working on a daily trading system similar. I will test and post anything I feel may help.

Bagovino
"Skills pay the bill's!"
 
 
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  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
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Interesting system. I have been working on a daily trading system similar. I will test and post anything I feel may help.

Bagovino
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That sounds great, I'm always welcoming improvements if you can think of them!

Good luck!
 
 
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  • Jan 7, 2007 12:52am Jan 7, 2007 12:52am
  •  kharvell
  • Joined Dec 2006 | Status: call me Kevin | 1,263 Posts
I have received a request for my trades as I make them, so you can follow along... These will be as of last week, so get out your daily charts and see where I would have bought! All the info is right there..
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