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  • #62,141
  • Nov 14, 2013 4:02pm Nov 14, 2013 4:02pm
USD/JPY

Just a tentative outlook but seems like MM's are done building short and now a reversal.
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  • #62,142
  • Edited 5:31pm Nov 14, 2013 5:06pm | Edited 5:31pm
Quoting vaxx
I think the best entries are the RSI divergence in volume and context of support or resistance. You what do you think? Regards, {image}
Sonic has already answered this question. Care to read the thread? Do you think adding RSI, or adding any other price derivative indicator, can divine the future intent of the MMs any better than what the Sonic R. System uses?

Since that is what you think, why don't you post your trades that are based on that, so Sonicers one and all, can all see how well that is working out for you.

Dedicated Sonicers have read enough of the thread, and certainly of Master Sonicdeejay's posts, to know what he has said about this. And they don't argue the point any further.

Once you start adding other indicators to a Sonic R. System template you are no longer a dedicated sonicer, but just another person looking for that perfect combination of indicators so you can become an indicator dependent "trader", and not have to think and learn what the Sonic R. System is intended for you to learn. This wheel is not broken, so don't go trying to fix it. If you think it is broken and needs fixing, start your own thread. You are only delaying your development of that personal insight into how the market moves that will improve the results you get as a trader.
  • #62,143
  • Nov 14, 2013 5:38pm Nov 14, 2013 5:38pm
UJ:

Not much longer now, it looks like. The Rising Wedge is a bearish pattern. And with the pushes above the whole number on notable volume, PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears. We will see.
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  • #62,144
  • Nov 14, 2013 5:47pm Nov 14, 2013 5:47pm
EU:

Another wave formed. This also shows the MMs pushed the price below the half number SR on notable volume again, which is a PVSRA indication the MMs are indeed bulls. This is before the LS, so it might or might not go further at this time. In any case, this is more evidence on the status of the MMs.
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  • #62,145
  • Nov 14, 2013 5:58pm Nov 14, 2013 5:58pm
NU:

This is similar to EU (above) in that a new wave has formed, but that also shows previously the MMs pushed the price below the half number SR and followed with notable trading volume down there, which is a PVSRA indication the MMs are bulls. Now too, the price was just pushed below the 3/4 number SR and followed by notable trading volume before the push back up. And, as with EU, this is before the LS, so it might or might not go further at this time. The Dragon is angled up, is above the Trend, and PA is above both.
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  • #62,146
  • Nov 14, 2013 8:38pm Nov 14, 2013 8:38pm
let see what red bring , kiwi short
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  • #62,147
  • Nov 14, 2013 9:16pm Nov 14, 2013 9:16pm
similar with kiwi , EU short

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  • #62,148
  • Nov 14, 2013 9:35pm Nov 14, 2013 9:35pm
GU...

Personally, i think 61.8 is kinda strong barrier resistance in conjunction with whole number 1.6100. in H4 high volume appear near 61.8 fibo, is it gonna rejected from it again and fall below? in M15 there's some significant high volume when price hiking... MM's like to add short in higher price.

why MM's hike the price to previous 61.8 around 1.6100 and start consolidate..? only time tells... let's see... i might be wrong... as now USD start to weak since yellen stuffs etc etc....
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  • #62,149
  • Nov 14, 2013 9:38pm Nov 14, 2013 9:38pm
Quoting jasakreatif
let see what red bring , kiwi short {image}
Interesting...
Am I seeing something wrong here? On your chart, the red candle has full body. On my chart, the same candle is bullish pin bar?
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  • #62,150
  • Nov 14, 2013 10:01pm Nov 14, 2013 10:01pm
Quoting JRissa
{quote} Interesting... Am I seeing something wrong here? On your chart, the red candle has full body. On my chart, the same candle is bullish pin bar? {image}
same now
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and add 2 sell limit order upper
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  • #62,151
  • Nov 14, 2013 10:09pm Nov 14, 2013 10:09pm
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} same now {image} and add 2 sell limit order upper {image}

Still don't get it...
How can already closed candle change its appearance later?
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  • #62,152
  • Nov 14, 2013 10:12pm Nov 14, 2013 10:12pm
Quoting JRissa
{quote} Still don't get it... How can already closed candle change its appearance later? {image} {image}
i have my own MT4 bookies server lol , kidding, maybe connection problem , red draw last 5 minutes
  • #62,153
  • Nov 14, 2013 10:25pm Nov 14, 2013 10:25pm
EJ look good

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  • #62,154
  • Nov 14, 2013 10:35pm Nov 14, 2013 10:35pm
AUDUSD classic long

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  • #62,155
  • Nov 14, 2013 10:45pm Nov 14, 2013 10:45pm
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} i have my own MT4 bookies server lol , kidding, maybe connection problem , red draw last 5 minutes

I found even bigger difference on our charts
Difference is 18pips
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  • #62,156
  • Nov 15, 2013 12:06am Nov 15, 2013 12:06am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} I found even bigger difference on our charts Difference is 18pips {image} {image}
My NU chart is same as jasakreatif but your 18 pips candle seems weird
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  • #62,157
  • Nov 15, 2013 1:47am Nov 15, 2013 1:47am
Quoting loeil
{quote} My NU chart is same as jasakreatif but your 18 pips candle seems weird {image} {image}
i'm not wierd i'm unique
5 minute entry , do we have the same vol bar ?
EJ short
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  • #62,158
  • Nov 15, 2013 1:51am Nov 15, 2013 1:51am
Quoting traderathome
NU Long Trade: Entered long Scouts #1 & 2 before going to sleep. The basis was in the PVSRA on lower TFs at the time, which seemed to indicate the bulls were still at the controls. After the quick spike up, the MMs worked the price lower than the average range, and that is where the notable bull volume started to come back in, and was evident on M1 at the time. Yep, long again. I feel I am eating crow on this. When will the friggin' MMs put on their smelly bear disguises and start that nice bear H&S into play? Well, for now it seems they want to...
NU Long Trade Closed: Manually closed all, 2 entries consisting of 10 components total, for 64 pips gain. Woke up to see this had rolled over with notable volume at top. Just tired of it and closed it.
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  • #62,159
  • Nov 15, 2013 1:58am Nov 15, 2013 1:58am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UJ Short Trade Update: Added short Scouts #5 & 6 before going to sleep. What I see now is that the MMs pushed this beyond the average range and have since been trading very heavily at the highs attained, with a lot of the activity taking place above the whole number. PVSRA therefore indicates the MMs are bears loading up on shorts. We will see. {image}
UJ Short Trade Update: Added short Scout #7. Woke up to find this still climbing, another push up with higher volumes at the highs. And maybe that will be the fare for the last day of the week, with the MMs leaving it at whatever highs they achieve today. Still, this could undergo a retrace, or a reversal at any time. It has been 50 pips since I added, so I take the chance here that another entry at this level will become profitable.
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  • #62,160
  • Nov 15, 2013 2:13am Nov 15, 2013 2:13am
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} i'm not wierd i'm unique 5 minute entry , do we have the same vol bar ? EJ short {image}
You are not weird, I sayd that this 18 pips candle on JRissa's chart is weird.
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