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  • #41,321
  • Nov 21, 2012 4:22pm Nov 21, 2012 4:22pm
Quoting Renatto14
Hello and thanks in advance, can anybody expaling the mouvement at final hour on this pair? same with CHFJPY and USDCHF
Can you post a normal size chart, and that is less cluttered? And what do you mean by "final" hour; last hour of LS, of your broker's server day, or on your chart (which is damn hard to see with all that "stuff" you have on the chart)? What movement, exactly, are you referring to?
  • #41,322
  • Nov 21, 2012 5:30pm Nov 21, 2012 5:30pm
set-up on usd/jpy?
let's see.
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  • #41,323
  • Nov 21, 2012 5:32pm Nov 21, 2012 5:32pm
Quoting traderathome
EU Comment

This heart beat spells the death of the euro (EU goes down: after the pump, lots of volume at highs and coming down off of highs).

Well, we'll see what the market decides. It calls the shots. But note the releases upcoming. The market could be executing the "Pump 'n Dump" strategy (pump up the price only to take advantage of the highs attained to close longs and open shorts), which could go on for hours. Maybe in conjunction with those releases (or sometime afterwards) the market will pull the rug on this one...

Agree with everything TAH is seeing here. 90-100 pips fall, but first i think market makers will pump the price higher a lot highter to get all SL.

Keep in mind traders, that market makers makes everything bad when thigs look obvious!

There is no spoon....
  • #41,324
  • Nov 21, 2012 5:38pm Nov 21, 2012 5:38pm
Quoting talaia
set-up on usd/jpy?
let's see.

Not quiet right, but if you give it a little longer, you can see if it is a setup or not. Dont forget HIGH, LOW, THEN HIGH LOW. What you display is not what i describing. Plus when posting please clear the chart or create new one just for posting, coz its hard to read, ergo hard to help you.

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  • #41,325
  • Nov 21, 2012 6:50pm Nov 21, 2012 6:50pm
Quoting talaia
set-up on usd/jpy? let's see.
Quoting Msis125125
Not quiet right, but if you give it a little longer, you can see if it is a setup or not. Dont forget HIGH, LOW, THEN HIGH LOW. What you display is not what i describing. Plus when posting please clear the chart or create new one just for posting, coz its hard to read, ergo hard to help you.

Yes, please. Something real clean and simple.....
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  • #41,326
  • Nov 21, 2012 7:03pm Nov 21, 2012 7:03pm
Quoting traderathome
Yes, please. Something real clean and simple.....
hahaha. dun forget in the weekly chart there still highly probability that the price will hit 83.998.
which i am assuming is SR in the weekly chart.

I am looking for short too. but i have to prepare for the probability that will floating like around 150-200 pips away

Better waitting for FO?/LO and the right setup to make sure that it will go down
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  • #41,327
  • Nov 21, 2012 9:14pm Nov 21, 2012 9:14pm
EURJPY 15M chart possible short setup, please see attached chart
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  • #41,328
  • Nov 21, 2012 11:09pm Nov 21, 2012 11:09pm
What is the best TF for this system???
N should I combine like Lower TF n Higher TF???, like example 15M with the 1H
  • #41,329
  • Nov 21, 2012 11:39pm Nov 21, 2012 11:39pm
Quoting Jimmy_FX
What is the best TF for this system???
N should I combine like Lower TF n Higher TF???, like example 15M with the 1H
M15 was the preferred TF for this system. However, you may go lower to M5.
Bigger TF like H1 and H4 may be used for outlook.
  • #41,330
  • Nov 21, 2012 11:47pm Nov 21, 2012 11:47pm
Quoting Jimmy_FX
What is the best TF for this system???
N should I combine like Lower TF n Higher TF???, like example 15M with the 1H
Page #1, Post #1. Every question is answered with the material there, and linked there. Read. And then start reading Sonic's posts. Read, read, read. Oh, and think, too.

Welcome,
-tah
  • #41,331
  • Nov 21, 2012 11:51pm Nov 21, 2012 11:51pm
EU Comment:

Had some high activity at the recent highs, which probably means this is to be headed downwards as time goes on. Possible PA waveform shown in pic. Time will tell. Right now the Dragon is still angled up. That needs to change. And maybe the PA waveform will also.
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  • #41,332
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:02am Nov 22, 2012 12:02am
AU Comment:

Setup forming.
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  • #41,333
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:19am Nov 22, 2012 12:19am
TAH would you consider the rejection of the 89ema a valid re-entry, IE your AU setup just got rejected on the 89 ema, stoch is crossing up, looking like a continuation of the up trend.

Thanks mate.
  • #41,334
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:23am Nov 22, 2012 12:23am
Quoting Mezzy
TAH would you consider the rejection of the 89ema a valid re-entry, IE your AU setup just got rejected on the 89 ema, stoch is crossing up, looking like a continuation of the up trend.

Thanks mate.
Might not be rejection at all. It might be the market moving the price back up for more short selling. See, when they short sell it too vigorously, it falls. When it falls too low for them while they are not finished loading up on shorts, they pump the price back up and resume heavier short selling again. That might be all that is happening.

On my chart, that is not the 89ema Trend. It is the H1 Dragon direction. You can see that it has been cycling down. This slight rise might not last long.

The market is fraught with price trickery. So, we wait and see.
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  • #41,335
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:25am Nov 22, 2012 12:25am
on my vsa, im showing a few red volumes pushing price down, usually that signals a load up for long. right? green is more volume but red usually signals loadups no?

thanks again for clarifying for me mate.

edit* ah I thought the dragon trend line was 89 ema, and the wave was 34 emas to high low close. i am not using tunneldragon or trend line, i have them manually setup.

edit2* lol is the yen exploding?
  • #41,336
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:41am Nov 22, 2012 12:41am
Quoting Mezzy
on my vsa, im showing a few red volumes pushing price down, usually that signals a load up for long. right? green is more volume but red usually signals loadups no?

thanks again for clarifying for me mate.

edit* ah I thought the dragon trend line was 89 ema, and the wave was 34 emas to high low close. i am not using tunneldragon or trend line, i have them manually setup.

edit2* lol is the yen exploding?
Red signifies climax price-volume for a bear candle. Green for a bull candle. A bear candle can be either the result of genuine selling, or trickery Torpedo & Buy. Green can be either the result of genuine buying, or trickery Pump 'n Dump. Can depend on where they are overall in the PA track. We really can't tell for sure what the situation is until it is all over with and subsequent market action reveals what the hell happened. But that can be good knowledge to have when deciding on the next Sonic R. setup. That is how we use VSA. We never trade on it alone! Its best use is "after the fact" when considering the next Sonic R. setup.
  • #41,337
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:42am Nov 22, 2012 12:42am
Quoting traderathome
AU Comment:

Setup forming.
Can i know your TP if valid short setup, TAH ? Previous low ? 1.033x ?
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  • #41,338
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:51am Nov 22, 2012 12:51am
Yen Pairs Comment:

Sonicers, if you look at them you will see PA has already exceeded the RWH mark. They are unlikely to rampage up a lot further. More than likely the trickery market is doing you-know-what,......PUMP 'N DUMP. There might be more upside, but we can never tell for sure. And it is never a good idea to "chase" a trade. Since US is on a bank holiday, and tomorrow is Friday, things like this might just get pumped and held up until the week closes. All the better for the market to close longs and have time to build shorts. Heck, anything can happen. And the day is still young.
  • #41,339
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:56am Nov 22, 2012 12:56am
Shorted NU:
1. H-L-LH wave pattern formed
2. Dragon was pointing down
3. Candle closed below EMA89

I usually used RSI and MACD when I trade retracement on M15.
And these 2 indies also gave a go, MACD is negative, RSI (6) is below 40.
Let the market decide.
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  • #41,340
  • Nov 22, 2012 12:58am Nov 22, 2012 12:58am
Yen headed for March high of 84.110
They are trying to murder their own currency to boost trade.

Too much crazy happenings for me, I need to find something else to trade and take yen off my charts. It's so tempting to go long with the herd, but as soon as I do it will have a huge pullback.
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