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Quoting ArtfulDodger
I can understand TAH's point of view AND your's OKANEMICI. Since it is important to know the trend in the higher time frames, it would be nice to have an idea - at a glance - from the 15m chart as to what the other's are doing at the moment.

Maybe a little red light / green light would be better to show the current trend instead of a second dragon on the chart.

Thoughts on this anyone?

Yes, I have thoughts. The M15 is our trading chart. It needs to be kept clean and clear so that we Sonicers can focus on PA (waves vs S&R, etc.).

If anyone wants to see if a higher TF chart shows anything in support of an existing M15 wave setting up, or in support of the possibility of a wave setting up, then by all means do go to the higher TF chart and study it. But don't clutter the M15! If you do, you only hurt your own ability to stay focused on M15 PA waves and S&R! And remember that we use the M15 Dragon for angle and to ID the key wave leg #3 candle, beyond which we make entry. That is all we use the Dragon for!

Sonicers, considering what we use the Dragon for, we therefore certainly do not need any other Dragon on M15! If you feel you do, then you have absolutely no concept of the Sonic R. System, and you need to go back to kindergarten!

-tah
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EU:

Master Sonicdeejay's Daily and mine. Both "suggest" price might drop. On mine, see more clearly that the Friday candle (last candle) seems "engulfing", which would be a strong Bear indicator, too.

Here is some speculation. Look at the daily candles for all of last week. Do they "suggest" that the market was faced with "impending down" and sought first to coax prices back higher, before the next leg down? This could be the case, and that the market drove prices back up last week, all the time being bears closing longs and opening shorts. The market kept the upwards drive alive all week to sucker in the new longs needed to make the strategy work. Anyway, this is just speculative.

Each and every day, regardless of the "picture" on higher TF charts, we need to keep our focus on M15 PA waves and S&R going into the London session. Why? Because regardless of what is shown on larger TF charts, each day the market makes up its own decision as to how to play prices. And the daily market is always right, not the larger TF charts! If the larger TF charts support what we see the market doing on M15 during the London session, then great and we might have a very nice setup and trade opportunity. If the larger TF charts do not support what we see the market doing on M15 during the London session, then great and we might have a very nice setup and trade opportunity anyway!

-tah
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Quoting sonicdeejay
The Game is Rigged, Boys..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BdpL_EATyc
Did you hear the term "naked shorts"?

Ok, the stage setting is competition between JPM vs GS in the trading of commodities (foodstuffs, gold, etc.) not only for themselves, but for their clients also, which includes the FED and Central Banks, and that this does damage in two ways:

1. Being purchasers of foodstuffs adds to the count of purchasers, which adds to the competition for foodstuffs, which raises the price. For investment houses to be involved in this, instead of just factories and distributors of foodstuffs which cater directly to consumers, equates to moving the price of foodstuffs away from supply and demand, and into the hands of speculators! This is the same shit that happened a long time ago with oil. Speculators determine the price of oil, not supply and demand. The bottom line here is that foodstuffs are going higher due to these speculators, not increased consumption, and prices would drop again if these speculators were legally removed from the market.

2. Since "clients" includes the FED and Central Banks, these trading firms have all the money in the world backing their price plays. They also have zero percent interest on using any of that money. They can take a short position on stocks, gold, etc., then quickly naked short the item down considerably, and then close the shorts later, when everyone else gives up and starts selling too. Those sells will allow the naked shorts to be covered with the buys necessary to do so, being balanced out by all the sells from everyone else! Yes, these markets are rigged.

This is why I do not trade stocks, etc. The markets are rigged. And pricing is not related to anything but the will and greed of those with all this money....price becomes what they want it to be, when they want it to be. It is a totally unreliable, non-supply, non-demand pricing marketplace, controlled by the super-rich investment houses which not only have unimaginable amounts of money to control the market with, but are also allowed to engage in naked shorting. This is, folks, selling what doesn't exist in order to devalue what does! This is a totally legal privelege of the super-rich investment houses, totally legal because they "make" the laws to favor themselves, and are more than powerful enough to continue to do so, and keep them on the books.

The forex market takes it's hits too, but at least here we can long and short equally well without all the bullshit restrictions the other markets place on retailers.

So, what do we do about all this legally crooked price manipulation that has the sole purpose of taking money from everyone else and giving it to the super-rich? We trade the Sonic R. System, we be picky, and we get a slice of this crooked action where we can. Remember, for as much as the spokespersons of these investment houses, Central Banks and government agencies lie, price needs to move for these greedy, lying, crook bastards and bitches to make their ill-gotten gains. And when price moves, we Sonicers are there.

-traderathome
Quoting traderathome
Yes, I have thoughts. The M15 is our trading chart. It needs to be kept clean and clear so that we Sonicers can focus on PA (waves vs S&R, etc.).

If anyone wants to see if a higher TF chart shows anything in support of an existing M15 wave setting up, or in support of the possibility of a wave setting up, then by all means do go to the higher TF chart and study it. But don't clutter the M15! If you do, you only hurt your own ability to stay focused on M15 PA waves and S&R! And remember that we use the M15 Dragon for angle and to ID the key...
Point taken!
Quoting traderathome
Did you hear the term "naked shorts"?

The forex market takes it's hits too, but at least here we can long and short equally well without all the bullshit restrictions the other markets place on retailers.

So, what do we do about all this legally crooked price manipulation that has the sole purpose of taking money from everyone else and giving it to the super-rich? We trade the Sonic R. System, we be picky, and we get a slice of this crooked action where we can. Remember, for as much as the spokespersons of these investment houses,...

Geeezzz and here I thought that they all had our best interest at heart, what a cruel bunch of people they are


Then I guess I should not feel quilty for becoming a leech sucking into their wealth


Thanks Tah, good post


Regards,
H.
"The future is already written in the past"
Quoting traderathome
Each and every day, regardless of the "picture" on higher TF charts, we need to keep our focus on M15 PA waves and S&R going into the London session. Why? Because regardless of what is shown on larger TF charts, each day the market makes up its own decision as to how to play prices. And the daily market is always right, not the larger TF charts!
There are good arguments for both camps here.

I think what people need to remember is that 15min trading is a very short term model/style of trading. So TAH makes a good point, just because the trend is down on 4 hour doesn't mean we should ignore a CT 100 pip bounce up on the 15min charts.

Having said that, if someone wants to be more "choosy" with their trades, there is nothing stopping you only taking trades in sync with the higher TF"s which 'should' over time see you with a higher win% (dependant on some variables of course).
Quoting traderathome
but at least here we can long and short equally well without all the bullshit restrictions the other markets place on retailers.

...legally crooked price manipulation that has the sole purpose of taking money from everyone else and giving it to the super-rich? We trade the Sonic R. System, we be picky, and we get a slice of this crooked action where we can. ...price needs to move for these greedy, lying, crook bastards and bitches to make their ill-gotten gains. And when price moves, we Sonicers are there.
Heh, you certainly point out the truth in the old adage here

In order to make out like a Bandit, you need to think like a crook!!
Quoting hansma
Looking back at your countless absolutely worthless posts. NO THANKS.

But hey you are improveing - today you posted 2 lines instead of 1

Regards,
H.
Worthless stuff but at least it's what I feel, I win and loose and I don't post only winning trades of mine.

Begone with your friend plz
I looks like a triple bottom for me. But still wait for the nice setup for long and London Open.
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Money Management and Patience is the Key
The chart goes the same for GU in h4 chart. but i still dun know because of the daily chart not as strong as the h4 chart. but who knows?
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Quoting scuderia
The chart goes the same for GU in h4 chart. but i still dun know because of the daily chart not as strong as the h4 chart. but who knows?
EU:
In daily chart we are in front to HS pattern.
I fact the neck was broken now (testing) and go up, then show exist some lot of orders there.
Between the neck and next S level are 25-30 pips, then you can expect the stop hunt go for both levels next time. (cascade stop)
The next S area are 100 pips away.
Then be safe go short (with Sonic signal) IF this 2 areas are broken.
I donīt go Long until trap short trade after stop hunt.
EU Comment:

Asian session morning hours today were bearish, as they were on Friday. This might set a bear tone for the day, however, such a drop might be countered in the London session. The London BBs don't like to start out low on southerly moves, they like to ram it back up first if it isn't too expensive to do so. That way they can add more shorts at higher prices before they let the price go back down. And the US BBs might feel the same way. So, while the market might continue bearish on EU, it could spend today trying to recover some of this drop. Nobody knows.

Since it is a Monday, caution is best on either long or short, should a setup occur. And note that there are, again, three USD high impact releases coming. It would be less risky to wait for them before doing anything.
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Quoting successlife
EU:
In daily chart we are in front to HS pattern.
I fact the neck was broken now (testing) and go up, then show exist some lot of orders there.
Between the neck and next S level are 25-30 pips, then you can expect the stop hunt go for both levels next time. (cascade stop)
The next S area are 100 pips away.
Then be safe go short (with Sonic signal) IF this 2 areas are broken.
I donīt go Long until trap short trade after stop hunt.
Thx for remind me of that lower high. i almost make mistake with that. well with that lower high it means the price is still going down. but still wait till the london open. coz in the western area this is still monday early in the morning. maybe they are still sleep. :d
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Since it is a Monday, caution is best on either long or short, should a setup occur. And note that there are, again, three USD high impact releases coming. It would be less risky to wait for them before doing anything.
I agree 100%
A lot of possible trap are in the road.
Quoting scuderia
I looks like a triple bottom for me. But still wait for the nice setup for long and London Open.
It also can be viewed as bottom neck of H&S..if there is any strong breakdown, hello 1.270x


Sonic
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered short(EP= 1.3053).
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered short (EP= 1.3107).
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered short (EP= 1.3093). This is 2nd trade (Scout).
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered short (EP= 1.3166). This is trade #3 short and is a Scout entry.
EU:

Closed old trade for 50 pips gained EP= 1.3053 to close= 1.3003.
Closed last week trade #1 for 104 pips gained EP= 1.3107 to close= 1.3003.
Closed last week trade #2 for 90 pips gained EP= 1.3093 to close= 1.3003.
Closed last week trade #3 for 163 pips gained EP= 1.3166 to close= 1.3003.

Total 407 pips gained EPs to closes.

-tah
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Quoting traderathome
UChf:

Entered long (EP= 0.9231). There was just a nice liquidity creation move, followed by tight ranging trading, all with relatively high trading, which I interpret as passengers now getting aboard the northbound train.
UChf:

Closed this older trade for 10 pips gain EP= 0.9231 to close=0.9241.

-tah
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You a the MAster here :nerd:
Regards
ExpresID
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Closed old trade for 50 pips gained EP= 1.3053 to close= 1.3003.
Closed last week trade #1 for 104 pips gained EP= 1.3107 to close= 1.3003.
Closed last week trade #2 for 90 pips gained EP= 1.3093 to close= 1.3003.
Closed last week trade #3 for 163 pips gained EP= 1.3166 to close= 1.3003.

Total 407 pips gained EPs to closes.

-tah
Quoting expresid
You a the MAster here :nerd:
Regards
ExpresID
Thank you, but no I am not. Sonicdeejay is the MASTER of the Sonic R. System. I still lack sufficient discipline. I am getting better, though.

-tah
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