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  • #24,341
  • Aug 3, 2011 4:42am Aug 3, 2011 4:42am
Quoting hansma
Congrats Nando.

Pure magic sometimes

Regards,
Hans
Hi Hansma
Can you share the link to download fibtool
  • #24,342
  • Aug 3, 2011 4:51am Aug 3, 2011 4:51am
Quoting ddaytrader
I have been using fib expansions for TP's for years. Here is a post from August of 2009 showing an example of how you can use the fib tool that comes with MT4 to find good fib related TP's on your own, without using an indi.

WARNING: Do not read TAH's fib posts from that time - he was for quite a while misapplying it. He did finally get it right, but since I do not know where he started getting it right, it is best to avoid his fib experiments altogether.
Thanks DD...I red all your post (and of Sonic, muhammad, Basber, Domas...)

I'm using the mt4 tool...

When I refer to "hans-fibo-too"l I mean his settings: sl, ep & tp's ... it works well most of the time, choosing the right wave and taking into account s & r zones and TF hight of course...It's a mechanical way for a trading plan and to let the market to decide..."set and forget"...just check it sometimes is enough.

Regards.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #24,343
  • Aug 3, 2011 4:53am Aug 3, 2011 4:53am
Quoting hsb2011
Hi Hansma
Can you share the link to download fibtool
it's mt4 fibo extension tool...

The setting was posted before here...go back and you look for the hans post or mine.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #24,344
  • Aug 3, 2011 5:10am Aug 3, 2011 5:10am
Quoting nando_rich
it's mt4 fibo extension tool...

The setting was posted before here...go back and you look for the hans post or mine.
how long it is back i searched but dint get
  • #24,345
  • Aug 3, 2011 5:48am Aug 3, 2011 5:48am
Quoting hsb2011
how long it is back i searched but dint get
Take a look at my post 24274.

Regards,
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #24,346
  • Aug 3, 2011 6:03am Aug 3, 2011 6:03am
Quoting nando_rich
Again...sonic is rock...and the hans fibo-tool, too

Someone call me???

Just back from Dentist..and a nurse..

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics...urse-13214.jpg

Sonic
  • #24,347
  • Aug 3, 2011 7:34am Aug 3, 2011 7:34am
Quoting hsb2011
how long it is back i searched but dint get
You've 2 settings:

Hans setting: with entry point in -24% FE (a bit more agressive)
Nando setting: with entry point in -38% FE (usually fit with the PA above/bellow the dragon) more conservative but a little worst R:R but more accurate to SonicR classic entrys.

Your choice

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...17#post4818617

Regards.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #24,348
  • Aug 3, 2011 7:43am Aug 3, 2011 7:43am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Someone call me???

Just back from Dentist..and a nurse..

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics...urse-13214.jpg

Sonic
Me master...but i'd rather to be with your nurse that trading the EU...
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #24,349
  • Aug 3, 2011 8:30am Aug 3, 2011 8:30am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Someone call me???

Just back from Dentist..and a nurse..

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics...urse-13214.jpg

Sonic
Gotta love that stetoscope
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #24,350
  • Aug 3, 2011 8:30am Aug 3, 2011 8:30am
Still holding my long for 2 days..
Both TPs hit.. And SL @ BE..

I gonna sleep like a baby..

Trade Safe fellas.. I wonder how is TAH..

Sonic
  • #24,351
  • Aug 3, 2011 8:42am Aug 3, 2011 8:42am
Quoting nando_rich
Wave and levels updates...

TP1 hit half close sl @ be.

See you later...
Hi nando, DD or any other experienced soniquer in the thread... I'm starting to think I'm missing something here... with the immediate trend in this pair I would've been looking for short setups, and most of the time when I do this PA hits my EP and the goes right to the opposite way, it happened in the last three trades al correlated with Euro, I was seeing short... many of you were looking at longs and I was looking at shorts mainly because SHI channel was pointing down... I also don't understand your wave, it seem that Base C is lower than first leg, is this correct?

I'd appreciate any help guys, thanks and have a nice day!
Flp. 4:13
  • #24,352
  • Aug 3, 2011 8:42am Aug 3, 2011 8:42am
Hello Traders,

I have attached AUDUSD trade.Can someone comment whether the setup is vaild ? and why the market went against? it will be great help for my learning.

thanks
Kumar
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  • #24,353
  • Edited 9:40am Aug 3, 2011 9:04am | Edited 9:40am
Quoting mg_vinodkuma
Hello Traders,

I have attached AUDUSD trade.Can someone comment whether the setup is vaild ? and why the market went against? it will be great help for my learning.

thanks
Kumar

Hi Kumar,

Looks like a valid setup, but if you look at the 4 hour chart - no setup - itīs a mess, no clear s+r area.


Hope this helps.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #24,354
  • Aug 3, 2011 10:12am Aug 3, 2011 10:12am
Quoting Anthar
Hi nando, DD or any other experienced soniquer in the thread... I'm starting to think I'm missing something here... with the immediate trend in this pair I would've been looking for short setups, and most of the time when I do this PA hits my EP and the goes right to the opposite way, it happened in the last three trades al correlated with Euro, I was seeing short... many of you were looking at longs and I was looking at shorts mainly because SHI channel was pointing down... I also don't understand your wave, it seem that Base C is lower than first...

Why are you looking for short setups?? Take a look my H4 chart...

The important think here is not the UTL or the DTL...The important thing is when the PA bounce of a major S&R (mainly in H4&H1) and you can see a candle reversal pattern and then you wait for the propper wave for sonic setup...

You forget my wave...yes the base c is lower...it's a sake out to hunt the SL's...i drawed again the propper wave in m30 chart (i just trade this time frame, less noise) it fits better with the FE tool...

The last week i did exactly the same trade...you can look for it.

I wait it helps you.

Regards.

edit: i forgot it...don't trade against the master!!! His bias is long...
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #24,355
  • Edited 3:37pm Aug 3, 2011 10:18am | Edited 3:37pm
Quoting mg_vinodkuma
Hello Traders,

I have attached AUDUSD trade.Can someone comment whether the setup is vaild ? and why the market went against? it will be great help for my learning.

thanks
Kumar
I took this trade as well. Took a full Risk loss. I made one huge mistake and did not check the 4H time frame (as hansma noted). This trade was buying into huge resistance. Borrowing a chart from mbqb11 the J16 thread (hope that is okay). This picture says it all to me and the reason why I now have a new rule for my sonic trades....no trade unless properly identifying trend, and S/R from 4H. Sounds like a no-brainer but I failed to do it this morning. Thank goodness for demo.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...82#post4834182
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  • #24,356
  • Aug 3, 2011 10:22am Aug 3, 2011 10:22am
Quoting nando_rich
Why are you looking for short setups?? Take a look my H4 chart...

The important think here is not the UTL or the DTL...The important thing is when the PA bounce of a major S&R (mainly in H4&H1) and you can see a candle reversal pattern and then you wait for the propper wave for sonic setup...

You forget my wave...yes the base c is lower...it's a sake out to hunt the SL's...i drawed again the propper wave in m30 chart (i just trade this time frame, less noise) it fits better with the FE tool...

The last week i did exactly the same trade...you...
Just about to ask you which time frame you are using more as your chart is showing M30.

I checked FE tool now with M15 and M30, and the tool seem to react nicer with the M30.

Would you still take Long entry at M15 for an uptrend even if price is Below Dragon, but price is Above the FE Entry Point ??
Coz this may be the case for like the EUR/USD chart you shown.
  • #24,357
  • Aug 3, 2011 10:33am Aug 3, 2011 10:33am
Quoting nando_rich
Why are you looking for short setups?? Take a look my H4 chart...

The important think here is not the UTL or the DTL...The important thing is when the PA bounce of a major S&R (mainly in H4&H1) and you can see a candle reversal pattern and then you wait for the propper wave for sonic setup...

You forget my wave...yes the base c is lower...it's a sake out to hunt the SL's...i drawed again the propper wave in m30 chart (i just trade this time frame, less noise) it fits better with the FE tool...

The last week i did exactly the same trade...you...
I see now, my mistake was in just focusing in the information given by the M15, it is absurd now that you post your H4 chart...

I'll print you post so I have this in mind at all times, thanks a lot for that detailed answer mate, I guess in this thread sharing is caring is taken real serious... have a great trading day!

PS: you're right about Sonic, it really amazes me, I'm starting to think he has an indi that shows the bars yet to come, lol, or for real, it's just experience and market sentiment
Flp. 4:13
  • #24,358
  • Aug 3, 2011 10:33am Aug 3, 2011 10:33am
Quoting nando_rich
...The important thing is when the PA bounce of a major S&R (mainly in H4&H1) and you can see a candle reversal pattern and then you wait for the propper wave for sonic setup...
Quoting Donkey
I took this trade as well. Took a full Risk loss. I made one huge mistake and did not check the 4H time frame ... I now have a new rule for my sonic trades....no trade unless properly identifying trend, and S/R from 4H. Sounds like a no-brainer but I failed to do it this morning. Thank goodness for demo.
Quoting Anthar
I was just posting in regards to the same mistake from my part... I guess it is a common mistake in the beginning, this just reinforces the importance of H4 in this strategy for me

Awesome!

  • #24,359
  • Aug 3, 2011 10:35am Aug 3, 2011 10:35am
Quoting Donkey
I took this trade as well. Took a full Risk loss. I made one huge mistake and did not check the 4H time frame (as hansma noted).
This trade was buying into huge resistance. ....no trade unless properly identifying trend, and S/R from 4H. Sounds like a no-brainer but I failed to do it this morning.
I was just posting in regards to the same mistake from my part... I guess it is a common mistake in the beginning, this just reinforces the importance of H4 in this strategy for me
Flp. 4:13
  • #24,360
  • Aug 3, 2011 10:47am Aug 3, 2011 10:47am
Quoting foxybunny
Just about to ask you which time frame you are using more as your chart is showing M30.

I checked FE tool now with M15 and M30, and the tool seem to react nicer with the M30.

Would you still take Long entry at M15 for an uptrend even if price is Below Dragon, but price is Above the FE Entry Point ??
Coz this may be the case for like the EUR/USD chart you shown.
It's easier to see the propper wave and s&r zones in m30/h1 charts...just less noise...it's my choice...

I can to take an early entry bellow the dragon (to longs) or viceversa...as sonic does sometimes if the PA and supply/demand zones show me a nice signal...

Regards.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
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