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  • #5,181
  • Jun 19, 2017 1:43am Jun 19, 2017 1:43am
Quoting jen101
{quote} The French do seem to be phasing out their holes in the ground. Not too long ago, they were pretty much everywhere even in the ski resorts. Now imagine (I know you guys don't have to give this a second thought) that the floor is deep in piss, you have to take your jacket off to undo your salopettes, so you're holding onto your jacket, your gloves, sunglasses and trying not to drop a damn thing whilst trying to wee into a hole! Now imagine it with children. They also seem to like unisex toilets a lot. So we have to walk past a line of urinals...
The nearest fir tree seems a much better alternative.
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  • #5,182
  • Jun 19, 2017 1:44am Jun 19, 2017 1:44am
Quoting Pat494
{quote} I am no Marxist but I do believe in spreading the wealth around. t.
What do you think your statement "spreading the wealth around means? Sure sounds like communism to me!

A mans, woman's labor is their own. Taking money from one to give to another is stealing, and it is immoral, even if you voted for it, it is still stealing and immoral! Instead of trying to attack people who have money, why not advocate raising your own money to address the concerns you are so compassionate about? In the shorter end of it, you would probably get more done by pursuing real original solutions than to have silly arguments about capitalism being so evil blah, blah blah.
  • #5,183
  • Jun 19, 2017 1:47am Jun 19, 2017 1:47am
Quoting Pat494
{quote} I would say much the same about airhead and the other Trumpites ! But you seem to have a sense of well being and humour , so have a nice weekend.
https://youtu.be/upyrWwstEMY
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  • #5,184
  • Jun 19, 2017 1:47am Jun 19, 2017 1:47am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} The trouble is .... 8000 tonnes (if it exists) is only worth ~$321bn @ $1250/oz .... and that defines the maximum amount of hard currency that can exist. Nixon (et al) realised this to be a hindrance on government regeneration and infrastructure spending, and created the fiat $ along with a load of propaganda that the new $ is just as good as the old $. Therefore...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmADevZPh4U
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  • #5,185
  • Jun 19, 2017 1:59am Jun 19, 2017 1:59am
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/van-pedestrians-hit-run-over-casualties-latest-police-finsbury-park-mosque-muslims-seven-sisters-a7796551.html
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  • #5,186
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:08am Jun 19, 2017 2:08am
Quoting Pat494
{quote} I don't lump Socialism in with Communism, which is the extreme, anymore than lumping in crapitalism with Nazism.
Yes, Communism is the extreme of Socialism, but Nazism is the opposite of Capitalism. Nazism is left wing. There are plenty of examples of left wing fascism, but not one of right wing fascism.
  • #5,187
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:16am Jun 19, 2017 2:16am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} What do you think your statement "spreading the wealth around means? Sure sounds like communism to me! A mans, woman's labor is their own. Taking money from one to give to another is stealing, and it is immoral, even if you voted for it, it is still stealing and immoral! Instead of trying to attack people who have money, why not advocate raising your own money to address the concerns you are so compassionate about? In the shorter end of it, you would probably get more done by pursuing real original solutions than to have silly arguments...
Stealing is immoral? Is that all? Try illegal! Corbyn should be prosecuted for inciting anarchy and illegal activity!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4615108/Corbyn-jibes-people-care-deeper-extent.html
I often have empty properties. Do I want a bunch of squatters in trashing the place at my expense, using up utilities which I have to pay for, not to mention the council tax? Corbyn can f*ck off!
  • #5,188
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:16am Jun 19, 2017 2:16am
Quoting Pat494
{quote} I don't lump Socialism in with Communism, which is the extreme, anymore than lumping in crapitalism with Nazism.
Now Pat494, we tend to like to have a healthy debate in here with knowledgeable and researched people, but you comment "crapitalism with Nazism" leads me to believe that you are neither. Nazi comes from the word Nationalsozialismus (National Socialism in English) to clue to your error in the origin of Nazi.

The thing you will find in this room is that those who try to debate without facts or research tend not to be considered very bright. Oh and by the way we tend not to consider Corbynista rhetoric as either fact or research. If all you can do is repeat others sound bites, it won't reflect well on you.

Most in here are fine upstanding people who believe in meritocracy, equal opportunity not equal outcome. Come and debate with us, but please, put some effort into it
  • #5,189
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:17am Jun 19, 2017 2:17am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Picture this: he's whining about capitalism, sat in front of his Macbook, wearing an iwatch, with an iphone in his pocket, with Nike trainers, Levi jeans, Calvin Klein pants and a pair of Ray-bans on his head.....
Damn! I thought I'd turned my web-cam off!
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,190
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:35am Jun 19, 2017 2:35am
Quoting Stu Effex
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/van-pedestrians-hit-run-over-casualties-latest-police-finsbury-park-mosque-muslims-seven-sisters-a7796551.html
Np just part of living in a big city.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,191
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:35am Jun 19, 2017 2:35am
https://youtu.be/SiMbIuwlGc0
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  • #5,192
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:37am Jun 19, 2017 2:37am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} No. It only stinks for those who want to blame others for their ineptness and failures in life! In other words self reliance is not a concept that they embrace, only what they seek to get for free.
It amazes me that the how Socialists seem to take no responsibility for themselves, yet think that others should work their arse off so that the Socialists can have a better life style. Free shit is never free, someone has to pay for it
  • #5,193
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:38am Jun 19, 2017 2:38am
Quoting Pat494
One can work hard and earn lots without going to the extremes of trashing the planet for more bucks.
Some of the worst polluting businesses are addressing the global trash-can effect.

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Take the pharmaceutical industry. They are not there to make you well. Oh no they want your hard earned money and hope you are so sick that you will pay plenty.
It is a sad fact that only technologically advanced and wealthy countries (so far) are producing the people who can develop new drugs. The same countries impose stringent procedures to prove that new drugs are safe to use. All this costs a lot of money. That is why "new medicines" are so expensive.

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Forests around the world are being cut down by loggers for buckets of cash. Many of those loggers are illegal. Have you seen what they leave after them ?
Actually the Amazon is being cut down so that crops can be planted. It is easy for we 'rich people' in the developed nations to criticise others, but there is a difficult path to tread in denying farmers in some parts of the world the right to try to make living. I'm certain there is a ready market for the lumber.....

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Even years later just weeds and some tree stumps for as far as you can see.
The poppies will soon appear....

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Those same forests have been described as " the lungs of the planet" with good reason. They are more valuable than figures in a bank. Without clean air and water the planet dies.
.....except that the oceans are not clean, and the air was once worse than today. So the actual manifestation of your statement is that without clean air and water most higher forms of life (including humans) are going to suffer.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,194
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:38am Jun 19, 2017 2:38am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Np just part of living in a big city.
It will be very interesting to see how this plays out in the media and Westminster.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #5,195
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:42am Jun 19, 2017 2:42am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} It amazes me that the how Socialists seem to take no responsibility for themselves, yet think that others should work their arse off so that the Socialists can have a better life style. Free shit is never free, someone has to pay for it
Can someone tell the immigrunts that plse.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,196
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:44am Jun 19, 2017 2:44am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} It amazes me that the how Socialists seem to take no responsibility for themselves, yet think that others should work their arse off so that the Socialists can have a better life style. Free shit is never free, someone has to pay for it
Well as the saying goes which is endangered to becoming a cliche at this point is, Socialism is only good until you start running out of other peoples money. One only has to look at Venezuela to know how well socialism has worked for them. People who advocate for socialism or for government to fix their problems is only because they can't be bothered with offering their own original solutions, it is as if they had stopped thinking for themselves altogether. It's the hive mentality!
  • #5,197
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:44am Jun 19, 2017 2:44am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} It will be very interesting to see how this plays out in the media and Westminster.
The Met have responed already LOL

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  • #5,198
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:44am Jun 19, 2017 2:44am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} No. It only stinks for those who want to blame others for their ineptness and failures in life! In other words self reliance is not a concept that they embrace, only what they seek to get for free.
Tell that to the mother with 3 kids who works 3 part time jobs, is she not self-reliant enough for you ? And, yes most of them are WHITE !.. yes, tell that to the "working poor" - a condition created by your capitalism
  • #5,199
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:46am Jun 19, 2017 2:46am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Stealing is immoral? Is that all? Try illegal! Corbyn should be prosecuted for inciting anarchy and illegal activity! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4615108/Corbyn-jibes-people-care-deeper-extent.html I often have empty properties. Do I want a bunch of squatters in trashing the place at my expense, using up utilities which I have to pay for, not to mention the council tax? Corbyn can f*ck off!
Hey you won't get any argument from me on Corbyn. You know how I feel about that D-bag! I am speaking more in the context of ideology rather then specifics!
  • #5,200
  • Jun 19, 2017 2:48am Jun 19, 2017 2:48am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Tell that to the mother with 3 kids who works 3 part time jobs, is she not self-reliant enough for you ? And, yes most of them are WHITE !.. yes, tell that to the "working poor" - a condition created by your capitalism

Blah, blah, blah blah! Tell that to the same people who made their own choices in life but refuse to take any responsibility for their own actions or for their choices. Pulling out the white guilt card? That is a pathetic argument if I ever heard one! Try again!

Virtue signal much?

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