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hi
there are 2 things what you have to master said Tom Williams.
volume and support and resistance,
so, Tom did use trend lines, they just work he said

here is another way to find support and resistance
bollinger bands setting 30 and 2.6
if I remember correct, price is inside bands about 99% of the time,
so, when price goes outside the bands, then you know, that it is something special

so, if you put bb in M15 chart, and there is 96 candles every day,
so price goes outside the bands once day, average,
and when it goes outside, then you know that now there is power behind this move,

so now you can draw line there, where this move started
just watch these levels, and soon VSA is not so difficult anymore
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  • Jun 12, 2017 9:48pm Jun 12, 2017 9:48pm
Quoting juhanimi
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thanks for the lesson LOL
I would say VSA was for made clearly for stocks
and so trend lines do not work as well in Forex.
because
(1) the trend is so much stronger and so blow through the lines or as least does not respect then ie over shot - stop hunting
(2) the other issue is Forex has so many more factors and players then stocks


cheers
  • #216
  • Jun 12, 2017 10:08pm Jun 12, 2017 10:08pm
Quoting karolisl
I'm just learning.. i know i need to look at 3 time frames, but for learning purposes i think i can learn on one, because i think you looking for same things but on 3 time frames ? {image}
I think it is much better to learn in one time frame. And that 15min is just fine.
  • #217
  • Jun 12, 2017 10:17pm Jun 12, 2017 10:17pm
Quoting TEB63
{quote} thanks for the lesson LOL I would say VSA was for made clearly for stocks and so trend lines do not work as well in Forex. because (1) the trend is so much stronger and so blow through the lines or as least does not respect then ie over shot - stop hunting (2) the other issue is Forex has so many more factors and players then stocks cheers
That is one important thing, what people does not talk when they talk about VSA.
When Tom Williams was still trading, he trade a lot GBPUSD and he did use trendlines.
I did see him trading live many sessions.

I am sorry if I did hurt you feelings, my post it was not to you, just to those who still trying to learn VSA, and I am sure that you understand that post has value, I know you are clever guy, I remember
you had a great system like ten years ago, 3 ducks ...time flies
  • #218
  • Jun 12, 2017 10:19pm Jun 12, 2017 10:19pm
Quoting juhanimi
{quote} I think it is much better to learn in one time frame. And that 15min is just fine.

well
(1) if you read and understand VSA and what Tom taught
he always traded in multi time frames

(2) to use a time fame as small as 15 minutes as a base chart in the forex will kill you.
in stocks you can as its a real market


(3) I am not saying trend lines are not a tool to use ie. targets.
I am just saying they are not as good as in stocks
and must be seen as 2ndary to trend in forex
where in stocks the reverse would be the truth



cheers
  • #219
  • Jun 12, 2017 10:21pm Jun 12, 2017 10:21pm
Quoting juhanimi
{quote} That is one important thing, what people does not talk when they talk about VSA. When Tom Williams was still trading, he trade a lot GBPUSD and he did use trendlines. I did see him trading live many sessions. I am sorry if I did hurt you feelings, my post it was not to you, just to those who still trying to learn VSA, and I am sure that you understand that post has value, I know you are clever guy, I remember you had a great system like ten years ago, 3 ducks ...time flies

you did or would ever hurt my feelings cheers
  • #220
  • Jun 12, 2017 10:31pm Jun 12, 2017 10:31pm
Quoting TEB63
{quote} you did or would ever hurt my feelings cheers
Good.

It is a bit problematic with multitimeframes, because if you take example 15min and H4, then you can have trend changes in 15 but not in H4, and most of us want sleep so that there are no open trades, I know you understand what I mean

so 15 and maybe sometimes closer look from M5, I am sure every one can make money with only these timeframes
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