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  • #4,781
  • Jun 11, 2017 3:05pm Jun 11, 2017 3:05pm
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Let see .. so we can compare the Alex Jones type of news to some "reliable news source" It would be like comparing superstition to science. They should never be in the same room.
I didn't make any comparisons. I asked you to cite your reliable news sources. If as you are suggesting that "Alex Jones Types" are insane then you must have sane types for your news sources and very interested to know what they are.
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  • #4,782
  • Jun 11, 2017 3:08pm Jun 11, 2017 3:08pm
Quoting Mingary
{quote} (: (I am not in France or Germany)
Are you actually aware of where you are?
Defending Truth, Capitalism and the US Constitution
  • #4,783
  • Jun 11, 2017 3:19pm Jun 11, 2017 3:19pm
Deliberate actions to force confrontation and I wonder who the staged press will demonise ?

https://youtu.be/aMTSeu3LBj4
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  • #4,784
  • Jun 11, 2017 3:20pm Jun 11, 2017 3:20pm
Ming ? Sane news sources please ?
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  • #4,785
  • Jun 11, 2017 4:34pm Jun 11, 2017 4:34pm
Quoting Magog
{quote} Got it from here - should have included link - so why are there no white guys in the 100m? https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
I will try and say this carefully... if you are like me you will have 2-4% Neanderthal genes in you which means you are not too good at running, but hey, you have other attributes as you factually stated.
  • #4,786
  • Jun 11, 2017 5:48pm Jun 11, 2017 5:48pm
Quoting Mingary
{quote} You are avoiding the issue .. Your only defense is to attack. Because you know in the back of your mind that the Alex Jones of this world are ....
Alex Jones ....... mmmmmm...
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Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #4,787
  • Jun 12, 2017 12:21am Jun 12, 2017 12:21am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} You are avoiding the issue .. Your only defense is to attack. Because you know in the back of your mind that the Alex Jones of this world are insane, but you still feed from this insanity and revel in it. The dogma for the Cult of Trump has a voice and you - as a cult member - are the only listener.

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  • #4,788
  • Jun 12, 2017 12:28am Jun 12, 2017 12:28am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} The Conservatives got the most votes and the most seats (318 but needed 326 for an overall majority) , makes life difficult but not impossible. They could do a deal with NI's DUP which would give them 328, but a deal would have to be struck. May can remain as PM unless ousted by the Conservatives, but it would still be a Conservative PM

Well, May certainly screwed the pooch on this! I also heard Farage will absolutely run again if it comes down to BREXIT being threatened!
  • #4,789
  • Jun 12, 2017 12:30am Jun 12, 2017 12:30am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I didn't make any comparisons. I asked you to cite your reliable news sources. If as you are suggesting that "Alex Jones Types" are insane then you must have sane types for your news sources and very interested to know what they are.

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  • #4,790
  • Edited 3:05am Jun 12, 2017 2:18am | Edited 3:05am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Well, May certainly screwed the pooch on this! I also heard Farage will absolutely run again if it comes down to BREXIT being threatened!
Yes but Nigel won't be able to do much other than make a lot of noise. There is zero chance he could be PM. Firstly, he has no party and if he was to return to lead UKIP, they have no seats so no influence. Secondly, if he wanted to join the Tories, they wouldn't have him.

I think May is due to resign shortly and Boris is primed for the challenge. He has publicly stated that it is rubbish and that he supports May, which is exactly what they do when they are waiting to pounce.

Boris would be good, he has a wide appeal and was very popular as Mayor. He could mobilise the middle of the road support. Davis is too involved with the Brexit process and it is probably best he continues with that.

Edit: the PM job should have been Boris' last year had Gove not stabbed him in the back. May only got it because everyone else dropped out and possibly that is another reason she called the election, because she had a bit of a chip that she wasn't voted in.
  • #4,791
  • Jun 12, 2017 2:55am Jun 12, 2017 2:55am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Yes but Nigel won't be able to do much other than make a lot of noise. There is zero chance he could be PM. Firstly, he has no party and if he was to return to lead UKIP, they have no seats so no influence. Secondly, if he wanted to join the Tories, they wouldn't have him. I think May is due to resign shortly and Boris is primed for the challenge. He has publicly stated that it is rubbish and that he supports May, which is exactly what they do when they are waiting to pounce. Boris would be good, he has a wide appeal and was very popular...
Told ya I thought DUP could be good for us.

The DUP could insist on Nigel Farage having a role in Brexit negotiations

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/11/the-dup-could-insist-on-nigel-farage-having-a-role-in-brexit-negotiations-6701540/
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,792
  • Jun 12, 2017 3:10am Jun 12, 2017 3:10am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Told ya I thought DUP could be good for us. The DUP could insist on Nigel Farage having a role in Brexit negotiations http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/11/the-dup-could-insist-on-nigel-farage-having-a-role-in-brexit-negotiations-6701540/
Yes, I like the sound of that coalition - a bit of Irish backbone! The only thing I have an issue with is they want Creationism to be taught in schools, but only NI schools so I guess it doesn't affect us.

Imagine this scenario though, with hindsight obviously: Nigel stayed on leading UKIP last year and they rebranded, to make themselves more appealing. Say, they were the ones who got 10 plus seats in the election and it was a Conservative coalition with UKIP, with Nigel as deputy PM and Boris as PM!
  • #4,793
  • Jun 12, 2017 3:24am Jun 12, 2017 3:24am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Yes, I like the sound of that coalition - a bit of Irish backbone! The only thing I have an issue with is they want Creationism to be taught in schools, but only NI schools so I guess it doesn't affect us. Imagine this scenario though, with hindsight obviously: Nigel stayed on leading UKIP last year and they rebranded, to make themselves more appealing. Say, they were the ones who got 10 plus seats in the election and it was a Conservative coalition with UKIP, with Nigel as deputy PM and Boris as PM!
Maybe next time LOL - still not sure abt Boris tho
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,794
  • Jun 12, 2017 3:41am Jun 12, 2017 3:41am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Maybe next time LOL - still not sure abt Boris tho
If Boris did become PM - hope it doesn't set any sort of precedent given who is currently London mayor
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  • #4,795
  • Jun 12, 2017 4:24am Jun 12, 2017 4:24am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Yes but Nigel won't be able to do much other than make a lot of noise. There is zero chance he could be PM. Firstly, he has no party and if he was to return to lead UKIP, they have no seats so no influence. Secondly, if he wanted to join the Tories, they wouldn't have him. I think May is due to resign shortly and Boris is primed for the challenge. He has publicly stated that it is rubbish and that he supports May, which is exactly what they do when they are waiting to pounce. Boris would be good, he has a wide appeal and was very popular...
I think there are pathways for Nigel. He is incredibly popular and for serious Brexiteers if they thought there was a hope they will give him their vote. Tories in isolation actually lost that election, there were obviously many UKIP voters who put their X next to conservative for the greater good of trying to keep Brexit on track. If Nigel came back as leader and we had another general election after a further year of fudging sane public would pounce on it as their last hope. A year out nobody gave DT a cat in hell chance.
I see that type of situation as the only way it can happen. I think Mag or Ex posted great docu about who really controls EU. It aligns with my thinking about the Global Agenda, clearly right now the party to help deliver that agenda is labour, they had no issues with opening the flood gates before and will happily continue, meanwhile the Tories in order to maintain their power have had to pretend they want to deliver what the people have voted for but has it been convincing the way they have operated up to now ? No, simply because they are at odds and ultimately they answer to higher forces which incidentally isn't the people. She ( MAY) had tough talk as home secretary, didn't deliver. Tough hard Brexit talk all a ruse. It's a fine line in trying to keep people on the hook believing they had their say. Kind Regards with 2 x tin foil hats on.

EDIT: So it is my expectation that something will be engineered to retract article 50. Therefore I think the EU propaganda machine is going to be flat out busy spinning all kinds of crap.
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  • #4,796
  • Jun 12, 2017 4:39am Jun 12, 2017 4:39am
Quoting Magog
I watched a vid yesterday(Craig Hemke) which reminded me abt the correlation that the Dow has with UJ. I always knew there was a link but didn't realise it applied to gold as well - PA is a carbon copy by the minute. Beginning to think I only need to trade UJ in future - what else is correlated - everything? I know some markets are correlated in some way - didn't realise it was so strong tho
All I know is, I know nothing with regard to fundamental drivers but do believe for now at least whatever you trade it all finds a path back to the Dollar. Most banks in the world only care about keeping their US banking license without it, most are toast.

On a purely personal level the chart always says enough.
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  • #4,797
  • Jun 12, 2017 5:21am Jun 12, 2017 5:21am
https://youtu.be/Tu5YN1BGwzM
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  • #4,798
  • Jun 12, 2017 5:38am Jun 12, 2017 5:38am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGvYw5GcIFU
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,799
  • Jun 12, 2017 6:49am Jun 12, 2017 6:49am
Quoting jarhead
Mingary, you post a lot of garbage. You talk about everyone that you disagree with belonging to a cult or relying on Hildabeast aliens. In reality, you don't know enough about political affairs to hold a intelligent conversation. You don't have a clue what the Paris climate crap would have done to my country. You don't have a clue about anything Trump has accomplished in the short time he has been in office. You certainly know nothing about US politics. You also have no sense of cause and effect. I'm trying to be nice, but you need to run over and...
I fully disagree with you Jarhead..... to understand what Mingary does on FF you have to be smarter than a Trump supporter or an Alex Jones / Breitbart fan most likely ever can get......and you know this is true and that's why you are getting triggered so easily.

Quoting Mingary
{quote} Let see .. so we can compare the Alex Jones type of news to some "reliable news source" It would be like comparing superstition to science. They should never be in the same room. If someone believes that Alex Jones Infowars is a reliable news source, I have no response.. same if someone tells me the earth is flat.
Fully agree on this one....

So to all of you still looking for better news sources in the US why don't you try out "The Young Turks" as a beginning......? ;-)
Nothing will be more efficient than to educate yourself to a level where you master the tools and processes to distinguish facts from fiction. If you understand how science works and how you are able to scientifically produce facts instead of fiction, your dependence on Faith will go down dramatically. Whenever you can replace Faith with knowledge, just do it.


Liars like Trump, sects, forex snake oil sellers etc. would have it much harder to manipulate you. As soon as you are on that level, you start to enjow the complexity of the real world by seeing all colors instead of just black an white and the place to be filled with hate is getting quite small.
  • #4,800
  • Jun 12, 2017 6:56am Jun 12, 2017 6:56am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Yes, I like the sound of that coalition - a bit of Irish backbone! The only thing I have an issue with is they want Creationism to be taught in schools, but only NI schools so I guess it doesn't affect us. Imagine this scenario though, with hindsight obviously: Nigel stayed on leading UKIP last year and they rebranded, to make themselves more appealing. Say, they were the ones who got 10 plus seats in the election and it was a Conservative coalition with UKIP, with Nigel as deputy PM and Boris as PM!
That's kinda what 'should' have happened but look what we're stuck with now.

Starts sounding like an episode of Dr Who where everything has been changed by an anomally at a fixed point in the structure of time and we are in an alternative reality instead of the right one? OH wait they did that one with Martha Jones and Rose Tyler came back.
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