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  • #7,781
  • Jun 2, 2017 7:08am Jun 2, 2017 7:08am
Quoting Nes
{quote} You don't made a journal with ssbo don't you? For me it is funny that after so many trades you don't understand this method. It is not about breakout or R/R, it's about CZ. It is decision zone, price accelerate from that, one way or another - it doesn't matter. I don't need to analyse direction and what price will do, it doesn't matter - my ego is not involved. Trend is not exist for me, I just follow the price. I don't take this strategy 1:1, I made my own base on this. Everyone forgot but this is the way OP want's us too act. I'm not an...
Good for you. If you can make it work good for you. It doesn't change that the OP was a scammer - you didn't know him personally but I did (read the whole thread and you will see).
  • #7,782
  • Jun 2, 2017 7:17am Jun 2, 2017 7:17am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Good for you. If you can make it work good for you. It doesn't change that the OP was a scammer - you didn't know him personally but I did (read the whole thread and you will see).
And attach your trade explorer trading this system, we would all love to see the results Nes...
  • #7,783
  • Jun 2, 2017 9:01am Jun 2, 2017 9:01am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} And attach your trade explorer trading this system, we would all love to see the results Nes...

Ben
I read the whole thread. He was tough but good teacher.
I see a lot of time and effort to make this thread useful as it is for me. The key thing is from first post the same. The massege is simple.
All this is lay here for free.
I don't think is a work of scamer.

Greetings.
  • #7,784
  • Edited 9:10am Jun 3, 2017 2:31am | Edited 9:10am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Fxhard was a scammer, the thread died because he got I and other top posters to start a private forum which he then started asking for more money. I was asked for $5k for private 1-1 lessons - when he was questioned about stuff he got defensive and shut everything down.
Interesting feedback, oztrader. FX industry never ceases to amaze me – sketchy place. Fxhard's choices aside, after putting so much time into a teaching thread it must be tempting to scoop $k off rich kids looking for a mentor. Always suspected the profit in retail FX was rich newbies with a trust fund to burn ... blowing $10k accounts, spending four figures on seminars etc.

Your post reminds me of #1:

Quoting fxhard
{quote}And then there are the systems where the thread starter tries to trick you into leaving the Factory (Hey, let's start a Skype group!) after a few weeks to join them in a "private" club by "invitation only" where you can get special "insider" trading tips. For a price, of course.
Even if the thread is built on sand, you can't deny it contains well-taught, solid insights. Are you no longer trading a similar system? (well done on your trade explorer btw)

But yeah, making $80k in one trade / having a 100% win rate / pay $500 to email me privately etc. ... they look like red flags
  • #7,785
  • Edited Jun 4, 2017 2:36am Jun 3, 2017 10:14pm | Edited Jun 4, 2017 2:36am
Quoting Lifecycle
{quote} Interesting feedback, oztrader. FX industry never ceases to amaze me sketchy place. Fxhard's choices aside, after putting so much time into a teaching thread it must be tempting to scoop $k off rich kids looking for a mentor. Always suspected the profit in retail FX was rich newbies with a trust fund to burn ... blowing $10k accounts, spending four figures on seminars etc. Your post reminds me of #1: {quote} Even if the thread is built on sand, you can't deny it contains well-taught, solid insights. Are you no longer trading a similar...
Yeah I trade a different system that suits me better. I think this system, like many, can be traded profitably (but stay away from the martingale stuff). Personally I couldn't find a good R:R and strike rate balance. Also, as I mentioned earlier I prefer to trade the retest of the breakout rather the breakout itself. The OP did good stuff at the beginning but he went off the rails at the end..

All you need to learn forex is out there for free.

Happy trading...
  • #7,786
  • Jun 5, 2017 7:36am Jun 5, 2017 7:36am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Yeah I trade a different system that suits me better. I think this system, like many, can be traded profitably (but stay away from the martingale stuff). Personally I couldn't find a good R:R and strike rate balance. Also, as I mentioned earlier I prefer to trade the retest of the breakout rather the breakout itself. The OP did good stuff at the beginning but he went off the rails at the end.. All you need to learn forex is out there for free. Happy trading...
oztrader79,
you really don't have any message? email? some screenshots can clarify situation.
I'm very curious, could You please look for something on your email?


Greetings.
  • #7,787
  • Jun 5, 2017 2:53pm Jun 5, 2017 2:53pm
Quoting Nes
{quote} oztrader79, you really don't have any message? email? some screenshots can clarify situation. I'm very curious, could You please look for something on your email? Greetings.
No I don't keep emails from 4 years ago, also I wouldn't share personal correspondence to people I don't know, thirdly go to the linked web page the OP has put up in his profile, read it, and you will see that what I allege is not unbelievable. I don't think I need to make any more comments on it.
  • #7,788
  • Jun 6, 2017 8:23am Jun 6, 2017 8:23am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} I wouldn't share personal correspondence to people I don't know.
I see.
You wouldn't share personal correspondence to people you don't know, but you'll accuse someone for scam on public forum with no evidence.
Thats funny rules, don't you think?

How much do you pay him for teaching?
You know what the scam is? Where you was cheated here?
After 2 years of free guidance, someone want money for his work - what a scamer!

I'm working with people and know that only when you pay for something you will get involved for real.
When you get something for free it is "easy come easy go".
You know someone who pay and work with FH for money?

Don't be mad on me. I don't want to offend you. I'll defend FH because I think he done really good job here - for free.
  • #7,789
  • Edited 4:31pm Jun 6, 2017 2:57pm | Edited 4:31pm
Quoting Nes
{quote} I see. You wouldn't share personal correspondence to people you don't know, but you'll accuse someone for scam on public forum with no evidence. Thats funny rules, don't you think? How much do you pay him for teaching? You know what the scam is? Where you was cheated here? After 2 years of free guidance, someone want money for his work - what a scamer! I'm working with people and know that only when you pay for something you will get involved for real. When you get something for free it is "easy come easy go". You know someone who pay and...

Rafal,

Mad? I don't care the least about your opinion mate. You joined in 2012 and still are struggling to find a trading method in the recycle bin at ff, your trading opinion counts for little.

Theres no point repeating what I've previously written as you just ignore it to make your own point.
  • #7,790
  • Jun 7, 2017 3:14pm Jun 7, 2017 3:14pm
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Rafal, Mad? I don't care the least about your opinion mate. You joined in 2012 and still are struggling to find a trading method in the recycle bin at ff, your trading opinion counts for little. Theres no point repeating what I've previously written as you just ignore it to make your own point.

I'm not struggling man. I earn on this method.
But I'm still learning, improve my plan, do my best.

And then it is you, a successful trader. Came here and say who is a loser and who is a scamer with no clue.
Thank mate, thats help. That's really a man of successful behavior.

Man you got your trade explorer, 470% - that's really nice, good to you, congratulations.
But as I can see, you lose half of your account in one week in january. Struggling?
That is not a professional trading in my opinion. You are not Ed Seykota here. So just show some respect to other people.

I hope you earn more and keep losing small.
Greetings.
  • #7,791
  • Edited 9:30pm Jun 7, 2017 4:20pm | Edited 9:30pm
Quoting Nes
{quote} I'm not struggling man. I earn on this method. But I'm still learning, improve my plan, do my best. And then it is you, a successful trader. Came here and say who is a loser and who is a scamer with no clue. Thank mate, thats help. That's really a man of successful behavior. Man you got your trade explorer, 470% - that's really nice, good to you, congratulations. But as I can see, you lose half of your account in one week in january. Struggling? That is not a professional trading in my opinion. You are not Ed Seykota here. So just show some...
Half my account in Jan? I think you looked at the wrong chart, I just withdrew funds from my account, so the balance went down not the profit!.

Im looking forward and not holding onto 4 year old emails like love letters. You are fantasising about a trader you've never had contact with.

Put your TE up and we'll talk more. I'm busy making money and have wasted enough time going in circles.

good luck in your future trading.

edit: I actually found one piece of correspondence in my trash at ff
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  • #7,792
  • Edited 8:20pm Jun 7, 2017 7:48pm | Edited 8:20pm
Quoting forexhard
SSBO - And then there are the systems where the thread starter tries to trick you into leaving the Factory (Hey, let's start a Skype group!) after a few weeks to join them in a "private" club by "invitation only" where you can get special "insider" trading tips. For a price, of course.

Post 1 of this thread. He warns against this and then later did this exactly with me and a few others (the "generals" that got to a 100 posts). We were asked and all contributed about $200 to create a private chat forum. Then we were approached for take up the offer of private one on one to learn the real secrets of trade placement. When some other posters complained that they had sent him money and received nothing, he was listed as a commercial member here of FF, as a result he quit FF.

This is all I warned about, the OP. The method itself, without the indicator, is not bad (nor original). He used martingale so that every trade ended in positive. You could almost do this for any system, as a decent system is unlikely to have more than 4 consecutive trades wrong. The original method he taught was trading the breakout, not the retest of the breakout which is a great method (see Sam Seiden for excellent free stuff).

What happened here is not unusual on FF.

Believe what I say or not, I gain nothing from it either way.
  • #7,793
  • Edited 7:16am Jun 8, 2017 6:26am | Edited 7:16am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Post 1 of this thread. He warns against this and then later did this exactly with me and a few others (the "generals" that got to a 100 posts). We were asked and all contributed about $200 to create a private chat forum. Then we were approached for take up the offer of private one on one to learn the real secrets of trade placement. When some other posters complained that they had sent him money and received nothing, he was listed as a commercial member here of FF, as a result he quit FF. This is all I warned about, the OP. The method itself,...

Thank You very much for this posts.

It is just hard for me to believe that after three years, so many post and charts, writing a lot of the times "I'm not selling anything", he just sell his rules and believes.
That's sad.

But I believe You now. You prove it and as you say: "I gain nothing from it either way".

As you say, he write about 100% win rate but it is all about trade set of few trades on one zone, reverse and martingale. It wasn't win rate of every trade. 100% win rate is impossible.

Sory, I forgot that you could take money from your account. That state was nonsense.

Since year ago I try this method. I look at eurusd n gbpusd. I look at live a lot and test on FX tester2.
I believe that when u got 70 ADR and CZ of 20 pips height where you buy or sell, take quick profit, it is just matter of direction. Of course on trading market. I thinks it is kind odd, what do You think?
You play retest of some MA zone?
  • #7,794
  • Jun 8, 2017 4:38pm Jun 8, 2017 4:38pm
As I said before, I think this strategy can be profitable but I found that while I may take a few quick profits, the required SL (the other side of the CZ) would mean one bad trade might undo 3 good quick trades. The chart you posted above with a clear breakout, then enter on the retest is good - this is just good Supply and Demand Support and resistance trading and better than trading the initial breakout and avoids false breaks. I think whatever way you trade is good you just need a system where the R;R is at least 1:1.5 or more. 1:1 can be mentally hard when you get a few wrong in a row.

GL
  • #7,795
  • Jun 15, 2017 3:10am Jun 15, 2017 3:10am
Is there a way for indicator to be used for daily time frames?
  • #7,796
  • Jun 15, 2017 3:23am Jun 15, 2017 3:23am
Quoting XxixixX
Is there a way for indicator to be used for daily time frames?
Yes? It does work on Daily timeframes. Just make sure that your box range is big enough. For example; 20 daily candles in a range of 30 pips will show no CZ's on a daily timeframe.
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  • #7,797
  • Jun 15, 2017 4:09am Jun 15, 2017 4:09am
Quoting GU-Night
{quote} Yes? It does work on Daily timeframes. Just make sure that your box range is big enough. For example; 20 daily candles in a range of 30 pips will show no CZ's on a daily timeframe. {image}
Thanks for the response. I have been playing around with different settings with little success. any suggestions on what could be utilized?
  • #7,798
  • Jun 15, 2017 4:29am Jun 15, 2017 4:29am
Quoting XxixixX
{quote} Thanks for the response. I have been playing around with different settings with little success. any suggestions on what could be utilized?
I took a look, and you are probably right. It seems that the indicator does not do what it has to do on a daily timeframe. It does not come up with CZ's where it has to.
  • #7,799
  • Jun 15, 2017 6:56am Jun 15, 2017 6:56am
Quoting GU-Night
{quote} Yes? It does work on Daily timeframes. Just make sure that your box range is big enough. For example; 20 daily candles in a range of 30 pips will show no CZ's on a daily timeframe. {image}
is this authorised ssbo indicator it is not working for me.. can you please forward this
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #7,800
  • Jun 23, 2017 6:15am Jun 23, 2017 6:15am
Hi everyone!
Nice system. What is "Trade Set" in indicator?
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