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  • #4,381
  • Jun 5, 2017 10:01am Jun 5, 2017 10:01am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} If you want to see some CoCs, look here (https://www.forexfactory.com/news.php?do=news&id=670444)
Glad I'm not involved.
  • #4,382
  • Jun 5, 2017 10:09am Jun 5, 2017 10:09am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} They cannot afford the heat Stu. She will run to the HuffPo and then they go viral. Easier to fire the "alleged" offender. It ties in with the "rape culture" narrative. It is a long term strat to break the will of law enforcement. After that, chaos. Then the originators of the chaos will create the order that they want. It is an old tactic. Create the problem, then offer the solution.
I understand what's going on but strongly disagree. So easy for the MD to say to the girl it's unfortunate you don't like what the guy said but it is obviously a personal opinion and it's not my place to police neither his or your views. People cave in all the time because they are constantly concerned about what impact their views will have on their employment and family life.

I just get so frustrated that we have been through world wars and yet we are more and more constrained and guarded over our thoughts.
I am glad the generations that dealt first hand with those wars are mostly no longer here to witness the mess we are in and the trivial crap which gets so much attention like the importance of having mixed toilets and at the same time standing by while our country is falling. The idiots who are letting this happen have no shame and clearly no respect for the sacrifices those generations made to give them the freedom to behave the way they do.
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  • #4,383
  • Jun 5, 2017 10:21am Jun 5, 2017 10:21am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} the first 10 seconds are mind boggling i wonder if they wound fight to defender their view that it's not all how strong is their opinion to still be saying that when within your presents their are 3 men killing a young women whilst saying this is for Allah how can they still be confused by the motivation of the attackers also smikester is hanging around in the hope of reporting someone no doubt
No they would likely quiver like a friggin child's party jelly. "No please stab away, we know you are probably unhappy, perhaps you would like some more benefits "
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  • #4,384
  • Jun 5, 2017 10:40am Jun 5, 2017 10:40am
Here is a tip to a commodity that outperforms GOLD.
I invest in "Peep Show"/ USD tokens.
They never go down in price and are always worth more in desperate times.
cptndob
  • #4,385
  • Jun 5, 2017 11:09am Jun 5, 2017 11:09am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} the first 10 seconds are mind boggling i wonder if they wound fight to defender their view that it's not all how strong is their opinion to still be saying that when within your presents their are 3 men killing a young women whilst saying this is for Allah how can they still be confused by the motivation of the attackers also smikester is hanging around in the hope of reporting someone no doubt
Jen put him on ignore, so I don't think he can create any CoC situations in here anymore
  • #4,386
  • Jun 5, 2017 1:23pm Jun 5, 2017 1:23pm
It appears that Prime Minister May is going all full-tilt-boogie "Chancellor Adam" from the film "V for Vendetta".
And if you have never seen the film, I encourage you to rent/buy it. It is a cautionary tale about blow back from an over-zealous, tyrannical government, with utterly no regard whatsoever for the people they rule, and Hugo Weaving, who does a magnificent job as the character V, is superlative.
Prime Minister May's opinions about censoring the net, and crippling cryptography, are horribly not the right way of getting rid of terrorism in the UK, and now it is coming out that the perpetrators of these horrific crimes, in Manchester and London where absolutely known to the police.
Manchester terrorist known to UK police (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4555088/Manchester-bomber-known-police.html)
I strongly suspect that the perpetrators of the horrific terror attack were known to British intelligence and police.
Who are the suspects behind the London terror attack? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/suspects-behind-london-terrorist-attack/)
The story goes on to state:
"The attackers
One of the London Bridge suspected attackers appeared in a jihadi documentary on Channel 4 and had previously “tried to go to Syria”, it has emerged.
He appeared in a television documentary last year about British extremists called The Jihadis Next Door, and was filmed at events attended by two notorious Islamic preachers.
The suspected terrorist had previously worked for London transport operator Transport for London (TfL) and a branch of fast food chain KFC, neighbours said.
A relative also told how he had previously tried to go to Syria to fight jihad but had been talked out of it by his family as his wife was pregnant at the time.
The man had also been reported to the anti-terror police on at least two occasions, it has been claimed."
So why were these attacks potentially allowed to happen, even with prior police knowledge of who these people were?!?
You have to ask, cui bono?!? Who benefits?!?
Not the British people, that's absolutely certain.
But various elements in the bowels of power in the Deep British State well may benefit, courtesy of May's draconian attitude on the web and cryptography, because the truth of what they are actually doing to generate more wealth and power for themselves at the expense of the British people, can be more easily suppressed.
Broken cryptography will mean that corporate proprietary information can be stolen, and given to government's corporate cronies. But the problem with this approach is, that the bad guys have gotten their cryptography to the state where it is already unbreakable by the best state agencies, or do not use cryptography at all.
And Prime Minister May, a word, please. Do you really want to stop terrorism in its tracks, honestly?!? This is very simple.
Stop mucking about in other peoples' countries, invading them; regime-changing their governments to your liking; and expropriating resources to which you and your corporate cronies have utterly no moral right; and selling those resources only to specific countries using only specific currencies. Bring your military home from their garrisons all over the world (removing American and British forces from that thuggocracy, Bahrain, would be a good start).
That you seem to be impervious to the horrifically negative potential, for disempowerment to translate into rage, when people have been dispossessed, and have needed to run from their home countries because of all of these wars, and regime-changes to suit the Western "ideal" of "business as usual, is both hubristic, and disingenuous in the extreme.
Prime Minister May, you have some of the most gifted academicians in the world in British universities; please use them to create an alternative energy source which can fly a plane, or power a tank, or drive a car, then patent that, making sure that a generous allowance goes to the schools and people in those schools who made this happen.
So the question is, Madam Prime Minister, are you really going to deal with the root causes of terrorism, or just decide that the "cost of doing business", internationally, as Britain has, for centuries, is simply the "new normal", translating into more terror attacks against your brother and sister Britons?!?
Your constituents, and the world, are watching, Prime Minister May.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Slavery_is_Freedom%3A_Submit_to_the_State_and_be_Free_from_Terrorism/58936/0/38/38/Y/M.html
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,387
  • Jun 5, 2017 1:32pm Jun 5, 2017 1:32pm
BREXIT SHOCK: Europhile who said EU vote made him sick 'is being lined up to lead talks'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/813204/Brexit-news-Europhile-being-lined-up-to-replace-David-Davis-in-charge-of-EU-talks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7znaNFpLLo
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,388
  • Jun 5, 2017 1:38pm Jun 5, 2017 1:38pm
31,487 U.S. Scientists Reject Global Warming Hoax (https://fairfaxfreecitizen.com/2017/06/04/31487-u-s-scientists-reject-global-warming-hoax/)
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,389
  • Jun 5, 2017 1:58pm Jun 5, 2017 1:58pm
Quoting Magog
BREXIT SHOCK: Europhile who said EU vote made him sick 'is being lined up to lead talks' http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/813204/Brexit-news-Europhile-being-lined-up-to-replace-David-Davis-in-charge-of-EU-talks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7znaNFpLLo
Something doesn't feel right abt the election.
Are the bastards really gonna stitch us up.
1. May a staunch remainer calls an election when she didn't really need to
2. At that time she was predicted to win a huge majority - now theres 1pt in it..
3. Since then she seems to be doing all she can to lose.
4. Now we get Gummer instead of Davis

WTF is going on?????
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,390
  • Jun 5, 2017 2:15pm Jun 5, 2017 2:15pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=92&v=ZSZ-AR-3sLc
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,391
  • Jun 5, 2017 2:27pm Jun 5, 2017 2:27pm
Quoting Magog
{quote} Something doesn't feel right abt the election. Are the bastards really gonna stitch us up. 1. May a staunch remainer calls an election when she didn't really need to 2. At that time she was predicted to win a huge majority - now theres 1pt in it.. 3. Since then she seems to be doing all she can to lose. 4. Now we get Gummer instead of Davis WTF is going on?????
we are about to be stitched up my friend it is becoming quite clear i will vote for the conservatives this time as a necessity but if they mess up Brexit i will never vote for them again fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me these people are behaving like they can just carry on playing past the leadership with Labour we need some new political parties in the UK these people all look the some this Ben Gummer looks like David Cameron brother they are inbred blue blooded and sneaky little weasels
  • #4,392
  • Jun 5, 2017 3:09pm Jun 5, 2017 3:09pm
Quoting Ross88
{quote} we are about to be stitched up my friend it is becoming quite clear i will vote for the conservatives this time as a necessity but if they mess up Brexit i will never vote for them again fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me these people are behaving like they can just carry on playing past the leadership with Labour we need some new political parties in the UK these people all look the some this Ben Gummer looks like David Cameron brother they are inbred blue blooded and sneaky little weasels
Ross I've posted this before and you may have seen already but he sums up why/how this happens and the outcome. Labour, conservative, democrat, republican, no difference, it's the illusion of making us think we have a choice. They are puppets also, they are the face of what happens but not the architects.

https://youtu.be/rxDwT55rmIw
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #4,393
  • Jun 5, 2017 3:12pm Jun 5, 2017 3:12pm
Quoting Magog
{quote} Something doesn't feel right abt the election. Are the bastards really gonna stitch us up. 1. May a staunch remainer calls an election when she didn't really need to 2. At that time she was predicted to win a huge majority - now theres 1pt in it.. 3. Since then she seems to be doing all she can to lose. 4. Now we get Gummer instead of Davis WTF is going on?????

Jen & I mentioned it the other day. Race for the bottom. They both know what they have to con us with but who will do the deed.

Don't see how failed home secretary does any better when they become PM
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  • #4,394
  • Jun 5, 2017 3:21pm Jun 5, 2017 3:21pm
https://youtu.be/EKbkArYyics
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  • #4,395
  • Jun 5, 2017 3:26pm Jun 5, 2017 3:26pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Ross I've posted this before and you may have seen already but he sums up why/how this happens and the outcome. Labour, conservative, democrat, republican, no difference, it's the illusion of making us think we have a choice. They are puppets also, they are the face of what happens but not the architects. https://youtu.be/rxDwT55rmIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ-CAkPAlc4
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #4,396
  • Jun 5, 2017 3:26pm Jun 5, 2017 3:26pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Ross I've posted this before and you may have seen already but he sums up why/how this happens and the outcome. Labour, conservative, democrat, republican, no difference, it's the illusion of making us think we have a choice. They are puppets also, they are the face of what happens but not the architects. https://youtu.be/rxDwT55rmIw
i think from the way Brexit is going that a decision has been made for us and that's why May is not even trying to win and if she dose win apparently we may have David Cameron long last brother fighting for us even though Brexit makes him feel sick
  • #4,397
  • Jun 5, 2017 3:35pm Jun 5, 2017 3:35pm
Quoting Magog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=92&v=ZSZ-AR-3sLc
I'm stunned and aware governments are capable of anything. I think one major thing is the internet, I don't think they envisaged the power it would give the ordinary folk in terms of sharing information. It is my belief they will look at ways to shut it down or heavily restrict traffic, we know google, f/book youtube etc have all been got. People are happy to forgo some things if the government say it will keep you safe. Just thoughts from a sceptical bastard about everything. Welcome to The Truman Show. What, we are all pieces in a big game ? Oh so like some sick weird PTB playing a bit like "Trading Places" but global ? Shit my head is spinning.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #4,398
  • Jun 5, 2017 5:50pm Jun 5, 2017 5:50pm
Quoting Stu Effex
And this kind of propaganda is rife. Quick come and look at the muslims who are digusted at what's happening. https://youtu.be/W0ryLqz-2sw
The media does this crap all the time here in the US. Remember the fake gas tank explosions on GM pickups.

Which little weasel whined bout Doc? Little mike'y?
Defending Truth, Capitalism and the US Constitution
  • #4,399
  • Jun 5, 2017 6:31pm Jun 5, 2017 6:31pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I'm stunned and aware governments are capable of anything. What, we are all pieces in a big game ? Oh so like some sick weird PTB playing a bit like "Trading Places" but global ? Shit my head is spinning.
I think the Trump experiment is going to tell us a lot about where we are heading, not only the US but Uk also. One cannot get an idea of what he and his team are up against unless you live here and are really up on this stuff. There is no media anymore -- only propaganda -- outright lies and never a named source. Some of the stories are so ridiculous it's embarrassing. The dems are placing all their hopes on Comey's testimony. He will be under oath and it will be interesting. Several in the media are disappointed Trump didn't evoke executive privilege, as that would "prove his guilt" and give them another round of media crap. Problem for the dems is that Comey is a proven liar and his testimony could lead anywhere -- Obama people spying on Trumps people during the campaign, using the IRS to hammer political opponents, unmasking thousands of Americans, ect. Trump's biggest problem, however, is the republican party -- I honestly believe a majority of them want him to fail -- they are a part of the swamp and he threatens many of them as much as the dems. The good news is that I think Trump will prevail! Possibly no one else in the country can do what I think Trump can do. He is a changed man than when he first started this. He is gaining support daily, much of it from former democrats. We are at war -- the common people against the government.

We will see.
Defending Truth, Capitalism and the US Constitution
  • #4,400
  • Edited 2:03am Jun 6, 2017 1:46am | Edited 2:03am
Quoting jarhead
{quote} I think the Trump experiment is going to tell us a lot about where we are heading, not only the US but Uk also. One cannot get an idea of what he and his team are up against unless you live here and are really up on this stuff. There is no media anymore -- only propaganda -- outright lies and never a named source. Some of the stories are so ridiculous it's embarrassing. The dems are placing all their hopes on Comey's testimony. He will be under oath and it will be interesting. Several in the media are disappointed Trump didn't evoke executive...
Yep truthing can become a full time occupation, the so-called fake news are all we have and using multiple truther type channels is the best we can hope for to escape the propaganda and regurgitated shite that MSM throw at us. The youtube channels that get close to the bone have had their channels demonetized and yet if you are giving style tips to 15 year old gullible girls with 1 million subscribers you are probably onto a nice little earner. So TPTB are trying to starve out the little guys who are trying to get to the bottom of what's really happening. I have cancelled my BBC licence fee and distributing that money via various means to youtube channels that no longer receive advertising funding and ones which I feel are making a serious effort to bring facts.
I hope Trump truly has broken the old Left/Right mould and it is something we need here in a hurry but don't see our structure ever allowing it to happen. My own birth town here has been cited over the last half century many times as being one of the most deprived in the country and of course it has been a labour held safe seat for that duration and it continues to amaze me that the people do not see the correlation. Their work prospects / living standards etc haven't changed despite the faith they give in religiously voting the same way over and over with the misguided notion that good old socialist labour party are championing their cause and yet the status quo remains.


Edit: No I don't recall the Gas Tank explosions Jim. And yes think it was the buffoon who had the Doc suspended, seen her lurking here yesterday like a petulant child.

EDIT:
Delving consumes many hours, I don't want to be misinformed but I'm not submitting my existence to it either. Life can soon pass us by and we die knowing some stuff and the ignorant die blissfully unaware.
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