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  • #541
  • Sep 13, 2006 12:43pm Sep 13, 2006 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by jj7000
So far this method has been perfect on 4h charts. This is real trades not demo.So far 7 out 7. 0 for 1 on hour chart. I will never trade this method on any other time frame than 4 hour again. It's the best system I have ever seen. I am the reason why I am not up over 300 pips this week. I have been exiting my trades almost as soon as it goes my direction. When you feel like everytime you open a postion it seems to reverse on you, it makes you think" get out before it turns". So I set some rules for myself to avoid this. I set my stop 35-40 pips away unless there is a major support or resistance level closer. I am using fib lines and support/resistance lines to tp. Thanks for sharing your method. May God bless you.

jj7000

I'm glad to see this is working for you.
Are you looking at the position of the Sniper when it crosses? What threshold are you using?
Can you post the time and dates on which pairs you have been sucessful with? I think it will be very helpful to everyone to see exactally what you're doing.

Thanks!
mrLogik
  • #542
  • Edited 3:55pm Sep 13, 2006 3:54pm | Edited 3:55pm
Awesome Post, Judex!.

Thanks Judex for showing us how you use the Alligator!

It is a good call to wait for it to develop.

Excellent.

Over the last 24 hours, there has been more development. I loved your adage of "I'd rather miss a profitable trade than to get into a bad one."

Here is a picture of what I am seeing as of now:

Here is the AUDUSD 4H as of right now:

The alligator is starting to close its Jaws.


The 4H Tlatomi indicators are as such:
1. Blue dot at the 0.7482 bar.
2. 5, 9 crossed up.
3. Sniper crossed up just above -200.

Any thoughts would be appreciated, since it would further our learning with real time examples.

Thank you in advance.

longtang


P.S: My settings for Alligator are just like the ones you used:
7, shift 5
5, shift 3
3, shift 2
Smoothed, close.

[Two charts attached below.]


Quoting judex001
Hi Longtang,

It’s probably best to wait a little longer :

-The Fx sniper seems to want to cross down again
-Alligator is going down again after a little hesitation

That's only my way to see that trade - i may be wrong but I prefer to stay out of a good trade than entering a bad one.


http://picnac.com/images/7650audusd.gif
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  • #543
  • Sep 13, 2006 3:55pm Sep 13, 2006 3:55pm
Quoting mrlogik
jj7000

I'm glad to see this is working for you.
Are you looking at the position of the Sniper when it crosses? What threshold are you using?
Can you post the time and dates on which pairs you have been sucessful with? I think it will be very helpful to everyone to see exactally what you're doing.

Thanks!
mrLogik


I have been successful using this method on Eur/Usd, USD/CHF, GBP/JPY, USD,JPY. I believe it can work on any pair though. I wait for hours for the trade to develop even if I have to stay up to 3a.m-4:00a.m in the morning.I live in U.S central time zone. I stick with the original method. I have implemented the 5ema and 9sma but, I still use non lag ma. I wait for it to turn yellow. The reason why I use it because sometimes the 5/9 is right on top of each other and I feel there is not enough separation between the two to make the best decision. I miss some pips by doing this but I have not failed once. I have noticed when the nonlag turns yellow a move of at least 10 pips or more happens almost instantaneously. I notice on several threads people start adding so much to a system that its not the same system anymore. I look for 1. dot 2. cci cross 3. 5/9 cross 4. nonlag to turn yellow . Then I get in .
  • #544
  • Sep 13, 2006 3:59pm Sep 13, 2006 3:59pm
Hi All

First i want say that english is not my primary language so i am sorry about it.
!!!!Judex001 thank you very much for publishing this great method!!!

I read whole this thread but i'am confused what is official version of tlatomi method. In your last pdf document is only setting for indicators, but there isnt description for new version of tlatomi (modification based on Tiga Abdul, i mean that you are trading this modification)

In pdf "TIGA ABDUL with Tlatomi method.pdf" is only this

ENTRY:

Secondary Signal
a) Dot appear or/and
b) CCI cross.

Primary signal
a) 5/9 cross.


EXIT:

Secondary Signal
a) Opposing DOT appears, or

Primary Signal
b) When CCI cross (more often) or 5/9 cross

Can you tell me what is your exact entry, exit signal and what is sequence for getting indicators signals. I know that for determination TP you are using vegas indicator, on first MA you are close half of lot and on second ma you are close the rest of lot? Do you move TP whenever vegas MA lifting UP or you are set TP i then don't move with it?

I need know what is your actual method because i want make EA for this.

Maybee i can publish same pdf as for first version of tlatomi there is everything cleary for me.

Once again thank you very much and i wish you a lot of pips!!!
  • #545
  • Sep 13, 2006 5:59pm Sep 13, 2006 5:59pm
Will it roll over?
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  • #546
  • Sep 13, 2006 8:39pm Sep 13, 2006 8:39pm
summitfx, wow, i like the chart how did you get youe MAs to do that on one line. please tell.

thanks -ben
  • #547
  • Sep 13, 2006 8:44pm Sep 13, 2006 8:44pm
It's an indicator I got here ( FF) called the FXSniper LSMA. I use it on all my charts.

Quoting airball
summitfx, wow, i like the chart how did you get youe MAs to do that on one line. please tell.

thanks -ben
Trade what you see - Not what you think
  • #548
  • Sep 13, 2006 9:45pm Sep 13, 2006 9:45pm
Quoting summitfx
Will it roll over?
Judging by daily close, I think we see a spike to 8840/50 first
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  • #549
  • Sep 13, 2006 10:10pm Sep 13, 2006 10:10pm
Quoting summitfx
It's an indicator I got here ( FF) called the FXSniper LSMA. I use it on all my charts.
It looks so good!
Can you attach the indicator, please? Or show the path where it could be found on FF?
  • #550
  • Sep 13, 2006 10:15pm Sep 13, 2006 10:15pm
Here you go- a link to more indicators than you would ever need. I assume you use the MT$ platform.
Enjoy~



http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...achmentid=6457


Quoting lietuve
It looks so good!
Can you attach the indicator, please? Or show the path where it could be found on FF?
Trade what you see - Not what you think
  • #551
  • Sep 13, 2006 10:24pm Sep 13, 2006 10:24pm
I'm like a kid in a candystore here at the Factory. Tonight I pulled up some indicators after reading about some FuzzyLogic and came up with this chart. If I can't get short here I better quit.
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  • #552
  • Edited Sep 14, 2006 7:21am Sep 13, 2006 11:18pm | Edited Sep 14, 2006 7:21am
Guys, although i´ve been reading this thread and the other one of the tlatomi method, i think this one is getting very big, and some times confusing.

I think i will be a good idea to post a new thread starting from all the conclusions we have arrived in this one, so anyone new to it, or the ones we´ve been reading this thread, could start with fresh ideas and information.

i´m not creating a new thread since i don´t think i have the authority to do it (since i didn´t startthis one), so if you feel my idea is right, please start a new thread from a fresh start.

tnx
Have a good day and a good trade!
  • #553
  • Sep 14, 2006 5:29am Sep 14, 2006 5:29am
Quoting jtacher
Guys, although i´ve been reading this thread and the other one of the tlatomi method, i think this one is getting very big, and some times confusing.

I think i will be a good idea to post a new thread starting from all the conclusions we have arrived in this one, so anyone new to it, or the ones we´ve been reading this thread, could start with fresh ideas and informations.

i´m not creating a new thread since i don´t think i have the authority to do it (since i didn´t create this one), so if you feel my idea is right, please start a new thread from a fresh start.

tnx
jtacher,

yes i agree with you, this thread somehow very confusing...and hard to make as reference especially for newbie....
  • #554
  • Sep 14, 2006 7:51am Sep 14, 2006 7:51am
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I have been successful using this method on Eur/Usd, USD/CHF, GBP/JPY, USD,JPY. I believe it can work on any pair though. I wait for hours for the trade to develop even if I have to stay up to 3a.m-4:00a.m in the morning.I live in U.S central time zone. I stick with the original method. I have implemented the 5ema and 9sma but, I still use non lag ma. I wait for it to turn yellow. The reason why I use it because sometimes the 5/9 is right on top of each other and I feel there is not enough separation between the two to make the best decision. I miss some pips by doing this but I have not failed once. I have noticed when the nonlag turns yellow a move of at least 10 pips or more happens almost instantaneously. I notice on several threads people start adding so much to a system that its not the same system anymore. I look for 1. dot 2. cci cross 3. 5/9 cross 4. nonlag to turn yellow . Then I get in.

Thanks for your response. Very informative. Just a few other questions.

1. When you have the CCI cross, are you at all concerned with where the cross took place in reference to the 0 line?

2. Do you look at any larger time frame to confirm overall trend? I personally use a weighted moving overage (H+L/2) on the same timeframe and look for direction. I've been playing with a length of 5 / 8 / 12, but I'm still unsure which is the safest (best).

3. Using fibs? (Vegas 4H).

Thanks again.

mrLogik.
  • #555
  • Sep 14, 2006 11:17am Sep 14, 2006 11:17am
Judex, thank you very much and all who help in the tlatomi method. first trade with it last night on the euro gave 30 pips.

hi summit, thanks for the link. the indicator that i have a question about is the one thats the red and tan line over your price bars. please and if you have the time what is its name and where do we find it.

thanks again,
ben
  • #556
  • Sep 14, 2006 9:19pm Sep 14, 2006 9:19pm
here is a link

http://www.forex-tsd.com/42655-post24.html

good Luck

Quoting airball
Judex, thank you very much and all who help in the tlatomi method. first trade with it last night on the euro gave 30 pips.

hi summit, thanks for the link. the indicator that i have a question about is the one thats the red and tan line over your price bars. please and if you have the time what is its name and where do we find it.

thanks again,
ben
Trade what you see - Not what you think
  • #557
  • Sep 14, 2006 9:50pm Sep 14, 2006 9:50pm
Quoting summitfx
here is a link

http://www.forex-tsd.com/42655-post24.html

good Luck
Hello..summitfx...nice to know U here...

About the indicators you attach before, wow......, so many, where can we get how to use and the functions for those indicators?

Thank U.
  • #558
  • Sep 15, 2006 1:17am Sep 15, 2006 1:17am
Well ,Goggle might be a good place to find definitions and I spent hours and hours and plotting and researching most of them!
Trade what you see - Not what you think
  • #559
  • Sep 15, 2006 6:04am Sep 15, 2006 6:04am
Hi Folks! I went through this whole thread last night - fascinating! I can't wait to test this out. I will trade manually but I am also going to test the EA. I got a bit confused as my brain overloaded from all the great posts. Just a quick question:

What is the current status of the created Tlatomi EAs, which one seems to work best and what are the associated indictors required?

Are they all posted together somewhere, or can they be?

I stumbled upon Forex Factory a couple of weeks ago and I am so glad I did. I can't tell you how many hours I have spent reading the site.

Thanks folks and I will continue to follow this thread with great interest. Thanks to all who participate in this and other threads.

Have a great weekend!
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  • #560
  • Sep 15, 2006 7:38pm Sep 15, 2006 7:38pm
I found this in another forum. It was originally created by Accrete. It works really well with Tlatomi. Put RSI(8) on your chart. Then the 8 period exponential moving average of RSI(8) (just drag the moving average from the navigator into the RSI pane and choose apply to first indicator from the drop down box.). Then follow the same method to put in the 20 period simple moving average of RSI(8). Look for the times when the RSI(8) crosses the 8 period moving average of RSI(8) or just look for the SHI Silvertrends and then look at the RSI. You'll find that if the Silvertrend signal is accurate, that RSI will also cross it's moving average. This happens almost at the same time as the Silvertrend appears. I can see where this could be used as a replacement for the notoriously repainting SHI or as a replacement for the 5-9 cross or a supplement to both. It happens much sooner than the 5-9 and pretty much coincides with the FX Sniper cross. On one particular Tlatomi trade on the EUR 4 hr, it would have gotten in 50 pips sooner than the 5-9 ( the 5-9 trade turned out to be a loser). Best longs are taken from crosses below the 20 period avg and shorts from above. Thought you guys might like to take a look at this.
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