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  • #81
  • Apr 26, 2017 5:24am Apr 26, 2017 5:24am
@fteller
@Fiure

now i get how it works, but i have locked two trades and arbitrage conditions are not happening, it is almost 1 day now. I am using VPS in NY, and the software is showing latency 60 ms.
  • #82
  • Apr 28, 2017 3:21pm Apr 28, 2017 3:21pm
:-)
If VPS in NY - your brokers should be in NY as well and you need to use feed from NY
if VPS in London - your brokers should be in London and you need to use feed from London
Arbitrage is about latency :-)
  • #83
  • May 3, 2017 7:22am May 3, 2017 7:22am
Looks good
First account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Jul...ge-acc/2094077
Second account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Jul...ge-acc/2094079

But it is so fast . it is better to make 40-50% / month Not more.
  • #84
  • May 3, 2017 7:36am May 3, 2017 7:36am
Quoting fteller
Looks good First account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Jul...ge-acc/2094077 Second account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Jul...ge-acc/2094079 But it is so fast . it is better to make 40-50% / month Not more.
On the first account you see operated the DAX, but in the other you don't see

Why?
  • #85
  • May 3, 2017 2:07pm May 3, 2017 2:07pm
Quoting fteller
Looks good First account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Jul...ge-acc/2094077 Second account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Jul...ge-acc/2094079 But it is so fast . it is better to make 40-50% / month Not more.
Great, i think i will give it a try.

Do you know if regular 2 leg arbitrage still works? (hedging two brokers against eachothers)
  • #86
  • May 4, 2017 6:12am May 4, 2017 6:12am
Quoting fteller
{quote} any forex strategy is not risk free. But locking arbitrage is almost 0 risk trading.

Hello. I sent you a message on myfxbook because i cannot message here. please get back to me
thanks
  • #87
  • May 4, 2017 12:02pm May 4, 2017 12:02pm
Quoting CBuilder
{quote} Great, i think i will give it a try. Do you know if regular 2 leg arbitrage still works? (hedging two brokers against eachothers)
Yes, why not.
I think the best way to use 2-legs arbitrage - diff to open < diff to close. In this case you will catch differences between LPs
  • #88
  • May 4, 2017 12:04pm May 4, 2017 12:04pm
Quoting rubion
{quote} Hello. I sent you a message on myfxbook because i cannot message here. please get back to me thanks
Hi, it is not my myfxbok account. One girl who test it sent me the results. You can PM me
  • #89
  • May 4, 2017 12:08pm May 4, 2017 12:08pm
Quoting fteller
{quote} Yes, why not. I think the best way to use 2-legs arbitrage - diff to open < diff to close. In this case you will catch differences between LPs
And the brokers dont complain about it? As long as i cover myself by leaving orders open for say one hour or two.
  • #90
  • Edited 2:33am May 6, 2017 1:50am | Edited 2:33am
Quoting fteller
{quote} Hi, it is not my myfxbok account. One girl who test it sent me the results. You can PM me

Hi, I cannot send messages yet on this forum. because of my low post count.

I'm interested in the EA and i plan on making some serious moves with on a live account. Not much has been said about specific arbitrage EAs that work or setting this up or the brokers it can be used with. i don't want to distort the thread with my questions.

i am really interested in giving this a shot. can we chat on skype?
  • #91
  • May 8, 2017 4:29pm May 8, 2017 4:29pm
Quoting CBuilder
{quote} And the brokers dont complain about it? As long as i cover myself by leaving orders open for say one hour or two.
depends from broker. If broker has anti-arbitrage plug-in based on fast feed as well, I think it is only one way to do arbitrage - Locking Arbitrage. You can find the article about anti-arbitrage plugin on iticsoftware blog. I do not remember the link.
But I think if you use small diff to open and higher diff to close - it should work good. It is also good idea to trade fix api account vs MT4.
  • #92
  • May 15, 2017 7:47am May 15, 2017 7:47am
Quoting Spox
Guys, price discrepancies between brokers still exist. They are called arbitrage opportunities. {image}
Is this a screenshot of a trading software you are using? Are you still running this strategy with these brokers? Would be nice if we could exchange some useful info for one-another.
Cheers!
  • #93
  • May 15, 2017 7:49am May 15, 2017 7:49am
Quoting Fiure
{quote} You have a problem with the software 2-leg? As I have said previously, I try fix api lmax and fix api darwinex (primexm) And it did not work, "price not available or expired" gave an error whenever trying to execute an operation.
Of course it is not working...it is the same feed: LMAX. Daewinex is an LMAX IB.
Happy trading!
  • #94
  • May 17, 2017 7:57am May 17, 2017 7:57am
Quoting adrian-filip
{quote} Is this a screenshot of a trading software you are using? Are you still running this strategy with these brokers? Would be nice if we could exchange some useful info for one-another. Cheers!
BJF posted video how it works
Inserted Video
  • #95
  • May 17, 2017 7:58am May 17, 2017 7:58am
Quoting adrian-filip
{quote} Of course it is not working...it is the same feed: LMAX. Daewinex is an LMAX IB. Happy trading!
Do you have lmax fix api acc? or mt4?
  • #96
  • May 19, 2017 2:29pm May 19, 2017 2:29pm
Hi fteller,

I checked your profile to read your posts. You make a lot of advertisement for BJF Trading group and his arbitrage software. You are writing from Ukraine. If I remember correctly Boris from BJF Trading Group comes from Ukraine too.
Normally I do not care if someone tries to make publicity for his product. And maybe I got you wrong and you are not someone from BJF Trading group that tries to sell his product. But anyway I need to write about my experience with the arbitrage software from BJF Trading Group as I bought it by myself.

To sum it up in one sentence: I wasted a lot of time and money.

I tried 15 different brokers and it was simply not able to make any profits. I wrote endless emails to BJF and tried every little hint they gave me. That was just bla bla to keep me interested and to send me even more offers to buy addons like manual trading emulator and 2leg arbitrage. I tried them too and it was even more waste of money and time.

You cannot profit from this way of trading because there are so many plugins from Metaquotes to protect the brokers of arbitrageurs. The MyFXBook links you posted are funny because both of them are pocket money accounts below 200 bucks initial deposit. Why pay three times more for a software and deposit only like nothing? No money left to trade? Too afraid of losing the deposit? Cant imagine a good reason for it.

Well, here is my recommendation for everybody who is considering to buy that arbitrage software: Don't do it. Nobody would sell a cash cow. And that is what they claim that piece of software to be!

Greetings,
Jan.
  • #97
  • May 22, 2017 8:38am May 22, 2017 8:38am
Do you know of any brokers that allow arbitrage trading?
  • #98
  • May 23, 2017 1:34pm May 23, 2017 1:34pm
Quoting Juliafischer
Do you know of any brokers that allow arbitrage trading?
Arbitrage can only work when you are in B-Book of the broker. That means the broker is taking the counterpart to your positions. If you win the broker loses. If you trade arbitrage you are winning all the time. The broker will simply put you into A-Book. That means your orders are routed into the real market. There arbitrages loses its magic. No one is filling an order that has a price from past. That is how latency arbitrage works. You know the actual price is at 1.11955 and you try to buy for a lower price e.g. 1.11945. That means you need someone who sells for 1.11945. But who should do that? Would you sell for a cheaper price than you could get? You do not get any fills or fills only with slippage eating up exactly the price difference you made out as an arbitrage opportunity.
That is why locking arbitrage cannot work too. Maybe it hides that you are trading arbitrage for some time. But as soon as you start to trade profitable -regardless the strategy you chose- your broker is going to put you into A-Book because he does not take counterpart from winning traders.

And yes, there are brokers that allow arbitrage. E.g. JFD is allowing it. They have no problem with it because they simply never take the counterpart of any trades and always rout into market (at least they say they act like that). You can try to trade arbitrage there and experience how it will work with being in an A-Book.
  • #99
  • Edited Jun 19, 2017 12:02am May 27, 2017 12:28pm | Edited Jun 19, 2017 12:02am
On the contrary JT4xPro.
Arbitrage trading goes beyond API on your pc. There is a special config that boycots your brokers trading server and feeder. I have been doing research on it now for 3 years and have come up with how best it can work. your pc must be ordered and configured here;
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&fb=1&l=en&model_id=precision-t7910-workstation&oc=cup7910w7p&s=bsd&vw=classic

I will explain how it operates our script, each script is built individually. Because we to locate your real account with brokers of your choice to build your script and build a vps It is operating with optical fiber directly in the brokerage house and transactions operate in milliseconds. To build a script It is a difficult job and it costs money both the construction of the vps and Equinix connections.
The creator of this ea writes:
My arbitrage ea VPS It can operate with are a maximum of 2 brokers and a maximum of 12 currency pairs, only 6 currency pairs by broker; I recommend brokers with low spread regulated by the FCA that are ECN.
When the above steps are taken care of, you'll ruin your broker. Attached are proofs of creator trading account and proofs of withdrawal that runs to millions of dollars.

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  • #100
  • May 27, 2017 9:56pm May 27, 2017 9:56pm
Quoting poundyen
On the contrary JT4xPro. Arbitrage trading goes beyond API on your pc. There is a special config that boycots your brokers trading server and feeder. I have been doing research on it now for 3 years and have come up with how best it can work. your pc must be ordered and configured here; http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&fb=1&l=en&model_id=precision-t7910-workstation&oc=cup7910w7p&s=bsd&vw=classic...
So what kind of arbitrage you made? Latency or 2 legs?
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