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  • #3,881
  • May 23, 2017 2:12am May 23, 2017 2:12am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} {quote} We have special service units SAS/SBS, these boys need to be handed a list and told to go to work, bollox to human rights and legal trials, the message needs to be clear, we're not going to lock you in cushy jails paid for by tax payers, we are coming to hunt you down and put one through your head and the ammo is going to be dipped in pigs blood. MI5 must have a list a mile long. Feel so angry today that these bastards can do this again at will and their's and their communities human rights are protected to the hilt every day at...
Completely agree. Once we are clear of the ECHR, the UK will be able to operate in the real World, unless Corbyn gets in and the we will be truly flucked
  • #3,882
  • May 23, 2017 2:16am May 23, 2017 2:16am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Completely agree. Once we are clear of the ECHR, the UK will be able to operate in the real World, unless Corbyn gets in and the we will be truly flucked

Corbyn would be a disaster. Our defenses would be reduced to pea shooters and catapults.
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  • #3,883
  • May 23, 2017 2:26am May 23, 2017 2:26am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Corbyn would be a disaster. Our defenses would be reduced to pea shooters and catapults.
You are joking, Corbyn is a pacifist, no weapons would be allowed. He would instead invite these terrorist to come have a chat and express the grievances (Just like he did with the IRA and Hamas). He would then invite them to speak at one of the Labour conferences (Women and men would be segregated as an act of respect of their 7 century beliefs), Labour would then have a new drive against intolerance, so that the 7th century intolerants would feel safe to continue their intolerance
  • #3,884
  • May 23, 2017 2:27am May 23, 2017 2:27am
The thing is, the inaction by those running the show makes people irate and pushes them towards supporting more extreme right wing ideas anyway. Its happening all over Europe. Liberalism seems to just be shooting itself in the foot anyway you slice it.
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  • #3,885
  • May 23, 2017 2:42am May 23, 2017 2:42am
Quoting jarhead
The following is strictly my opinion, based on my observations. Things are going as well as could be expected, given the political climate in the US. I think the Trump administration has made two basic errors to this point. One was getting involved with Flynn. Though Flynn was at odds with the Obama military policy, he was a democrat. Turns out he is a typical democrat whose goal was to pad his pockets and play loosy goosy with the truth. Hopefully Trump is learning he can't deal with democrats. Politicians are unlike business people he has always...

Good stuff jarhead! I concur completely. As an American working in London, I feel am no farther from it then being in the lions den itself. The Chinese having executed 12 CIA operatives is proof enough that the enemy resides inside. He needs to drain the swamp of the 5000, or so "O" loyalists still embedded at the various intelligences agencies in order to get total control of the deep state. And this can not happen soon enough, as the Seth Richards episode is proving already what treachery lies ahead.
  • #3,886
  • May 23, 2017 2:47am May 23, 2017 2:47am
Quoting PayTheLimit
The thing is, the inaction by those running the show makes people irate and pushes them towards supporting more extreme right wing ideas anyway. Its happening all over Europe. Liberalism seems to just be shooting itself in the foot anyway you slice it.
which is why we have shit like this happening in a civilised country

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4530250/Man-kicked-pregnant-Muslim-woman-stomach-jailed.html

but what do people expect to happen with tensions as high as they are we need to stop immigration from the Islamic world right now i do not care if they are a doctor escaping persecution that happens to be the nicest person in the world because they may raise a child that becomes a fundamental Muslim that start trying to kill us this is looking like water and oil we should not mix with this lot of people
  • #3,887
  • May 23, 2017 2:55am May 23, 2017 2:55am
If anyone ever tells me again that diversification is good for us I'm gonna punch their effing lights out
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  • #3,888
  • May 23, 2017 3:01am May 23, 2017 3:01am
Quoting PayTheLimit
The thing is, the inaction by those running the show makes people irate and pushes them towards supporting more extreme right wing ideas anyway. Its happening all over Europe. Liberalism seems to just be shooting itself in the foot anyway you slice it.

This is the problem. They (Governments) fall over themselves to be tolerant of their belief systems at the expense of eroding indigenous peoples belief systems and culture. I don't consider it extreme to protect your own, it's a natural response but the dumb left like to label the natural response as extreme right wing views. Fact is the whole Muslim ideology is extreme and is just not compatible with most Western cultures. Why don't they want to remain in a geographical location that is predominantly muslim ? My view it is because of the caliphate. There seems no other logical reason for immersing in Western cultures which are so far removed from their own and once immersed they insist on things being their way with no integration and because of accusation of racism this behaviour has gone unchallenged for so long it has become the new normal.

I could go on..... but have to go out.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #3,889
  • May 23, 2017 3:04am May 23, 2017 3:04am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} which is why we have shit like this happening in a civilised country http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4530250/Man-kicked-pregnant-Muslim-woman-stomach-jailed.html but what do people expect to happen with tensions as high as they are we need to stop immigration from the Islamic world right now i do not care if they are a doctor escaping persecution that happens to be the nicest person in the world because they may raise a child that becomes a fundamental Muslim that start trying to kill us this is looking like water and...
its a bloody mess, with no easy fixes...
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  • #3,890
  • May 23, 2017 3:10am May 23, 2017 3:10am
This one is for the main contributor. Actually, I quite like it....

https://youtu.be/koJlIGDImiU
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  • #3,891
  • May 23, 2017 3:14am May 23, 2017 3:14am
Quoting Magog
If anyone ever tells me again that diversification is good for us I'm gonna punch their effing lights out
i'm not sure your right about that it's multiculturalism that is at the heart of the problems it's not just one community that is having problems it's everyone having problems with one group of people

https://youtu.be/LgcmZD7JF1w
  • #3,892
  • May 23, 2017 3:27am May 23, 2017 3:27am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} which is why we have shit like this happening in a civilised country http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4530250/Man-kicked-pregnant-Muslim-woman-stomach-jailed.html but what do people expect to happen with tensions as high as they are we need to stop immigration from the Islamic world right now i do not care if they are a doctor escaping persecution that happens to be the nicest person in the world because they may raise a child that becomes a fundamental Muslim that start trying to kill us this is looking like water and...
Unfortunately the standard of journalism is slipping. The author, proof-reader, and any other person involved in grammatically checking the prose did not spot this howler.
"racially-aggregated"

I wonder if you can be done for aggregated-assault....?
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  • #3,893
  • May 23, 2017 3:50am May 23, 2017 3:50am
My first thoughts this morning when I heard about this .... 'thank you Mr.Blair and Mr.Bush for visiting this mess upon us'.
Those of us who lived through the equivalent activity from the IRA back in the 70s and 80s. You had to be very careful about which pubs you went to. There were no rubbish bins in the shopping malls after somebody dropped non-rubbish into a bin outside a fast-food establishment. Years it took to recover to a position of peace.

We ('we' is a misnomer) have thrown it all away.

Quoting Ross88
this needs to stop 19 killed now many more will die before the government does its job. we have not even executed one returning member of ISIS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4531940/Emergency-services-rush-Manchester-Arena.html
We are not allowed to execute anybody. That is a direct result of 'evidence manufacturing' in the case of James Hanratti who was convicted and hanged for a murder that he may not have committed. There is also that poor black man who has been in jail for 20 years and who may have finally proved his innocence using DNA evidence which was not available at the time of his original trial. So capital punishment needs to be handled carefully.

However I fully support the re-introduction of capital punishment for treason.

Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} {quote} We have special service units SAS/SBS, these boys need to be handed a list and told to go to work, bollox to human rights and legal trials, the message needs to be clear, we're not going to lock you in cushy jails paid for by tax payers, we are coming to hunt you down and put one through your head and the ammo is going to be dipped in pigs blood. MI5 must have a list a mile long. Feel so angry today that these bastards can do this again at will and their's and their communities human rights are protected to the hilt every day at...
What more can I say. That American Sherrif/Mayor/Prison-governor (apologies for not remembering his name and 'title') who put prisoners in tents, with justification that "if it is good enough for our soldiers out at war it is good enough for you". He has my vote ... if I had one over there.
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  • #3,894
  • May 23, 2017 3:57am May 23, 2017 3:57am
Don't ya just love it! (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/808040/Victoria-Coach-station-closed-suspect-package-terror-fears-Buckingham-Palace-Road)
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  • #3,895
  • May 23, 2017 4:01am May 23, 2017 4:01am
Quoting Exodus
}We are not allowed to execute anybody. That is a direct result of 'evidence manufacturing' in the case of James Hanratti who was convicted and hanged for a murder that he may not have committed. There is also that poor black man who has been in jail for 20 years and who may have finally proved his innocence using DNA evidence which was not available at the time of his original trial. So capital punishment needs to be handled carefully. However I fully support the re-introduction of capital punishment for treason. {quote}What more can I say. ...
i'm not saying lets execute someone for killing their wife but people that join ISIS should be killed for treason or crimes against humanity even if they can prove they just worked for ISIS as a accountant i know this is a tricky road as it may forced some to stay and commitment a act of terrorism here but if it was up to me i would just say here's free flights out of the UK to join ISIS but if you came back we will kill you this is a enemy that does not want peace they want to conquer us so we have to start killing them first or this will go on and on for generations
  • #3,896
  • May 23, 2017 4:08am May 23, 2017 4:08am
Quoting Exodus
Don't ya just love it! (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/808040/Victoria-Coach-station-closed-suspect-package-terror-fears-Buckingham-Palace-Road)

no my girlfriend is using public transport today like most days to get to and from her work this is part of why i think we should start executing terrorists how long till the ordinary person in the UK starts fighting back it will be a blood bath so i think the government should pull their finger out and start using the strongest deterrent possible or the average joe will and it will be indiscriminate
  • #3,897
  • May 23, 2017 4:34am May 23, 2017 4:34am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} no my girlfriend is using public transport today like most days to get to and from her work this is part of why i think we should start executing terrorists how long till the ordinary person in the UK starts fighting back it will be a blood bath so i think the government should pull their finger out and start using the strongest deterrent possible or the average joe will and it will be indiscriminate
If someone related to the local crims from Moss Side has died in this terrorist act, the crims will sort it out themselves
  • #3,898
  • May 23, 2017 4:52am May 23, 2017 4:52am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} If someone related to the local crims from Moss Side has died in this terrorist act, the crims will sort it out themselves
the thing is every time we in the Western world drone strike and kill the wrong people we help create more terrorists and every time they blow people and this time in particular as it will be mostly kids and young adults killed they create more bad feelings on own side it will only be a matter of time till crime gang gets involved or just terminally ill people going on a rampage this is looking like it will only get much worse


i know this sounds crazy but how long till things go really bad and will just have fighting on own streets imagine how many people right now are worrying about family and thinking the worst and as a result are contemplating violent this can not go on for much longer until there is a backlash supported by the average person in the street and the weird thing is it will be everyone against one group maybe just maybe that one group needs to look inward and root out extremism within their community and help stop this from happening again
  • #3,899
  • May 23, 2017 5:11am May 23, 2017 5:11am
guys as some of you may nave noticed i was a bit piss off this morning but than i remembered this and now i feel great again

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  • #3,900
  • May 23, 2017 5:57am May 23, 2017 5:57am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} no my girlfriend is using public transport today like most days to get to and from her work this is part of why i think we should start executing terrorists how long till the ordinary person in the UK starts fighting back it will be a blood bath so i think the government should pull their finger out and start using the strongest deterrent possible or the average joe will and it will be indiscriminate
I have drawn parallels with Beirut (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War) in the past. The same imbalances are appearing in UK society, including a massive influx of refugees ... from the same places.

It appears to me that we are just waiting for the trigger. How long, would you say?
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