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  • #1,361
  • May 18, 2017 7:22am May 18, 2017 7:22am
Still struggling to determine the sweet zone! for my entry most of the time I enter to early or to late. Cheers
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  • #1,362
  • Edited 7:50am May 18, 2017 7:37am | Edited 7:50am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} You got it, hence the need to be able to draw WWs manually as the indicator can't pick this one up regardless of the settings. Again, the sweet zone reigns supreme as price reverses beautifully.
Yeah, the concept of the sweet zone is the masterpiece of Bill Wolfe IMHO, it combines time and space, allowing zero drawdown entries on narrow zones. He suggests beginners to trade those narrow ones, as those are much easier to handle from the risk perspective. Steep zones require other filters like harmonic completions (AB=CD), fib extensions, market structure, etc... since price can go quite a bit before snapping back to equilibrium.

Some thoughts about what makes up the sweet zone and the difference between AB=CD trading and WW trading.
Why is the sweet zone much more powerful in timing entries?
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Just my interpretation, don't pretend to be right

Unrelated to the above, interesting sentence, picked this up from the PDF, what makes a WW a good wave:
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the 3rd wave is the crowd's wave
  • #1,363
  • May 18, 2017 9:37am May 18, 2017 9:37am
I downloaded the pointzero wolf wave indicator does the arrow come in real time could someone let me know
  • #1,364
  • May 18, 2017 3:35pm May 18, 2017 3:35pm
Quoting juriFX
{quote} Yeah, the concept of the sweet zone is the masterpiece of Bill Wolfe IMHO, it combines time and space, allowing zero drawdown entries on narrow zones. He suggests beginners to trade those narrow ones, as those are much easier to handle from the risk perspective. Steep zones require other filters like harmonic completions (AB=CD), fib extensions, market structure, etc... since price can go quite a bit before snapping back to equilibrium. Some thoughts about what makes up the sweet zone and the difference between AB=CD trading and WW trading....
Thanks for taking tome to put this analysis together.

I also noticed that section in the PDF, something to be on the look out for.

I think this video is relevant to the discussion. It comes from Damian ("Mr. Pip") who I really respect as a harmonic trader. I think this was the first video he did. He has an excellent thread: "Ratios & Harmonics: a Different Way to Trade"

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  • #1,365
  • May 18, 2017 3:38pm May 18, 2017 3:38pm
Quoting pquirst
I downloaded the pointzero wolf wave indicator does the arrow come in real time could someone let me know
Can't comment as I've never used it. Have you tried any of parviz' WW indicators that are on post #1?. I think you may find that they are more than sufficient and go far beyond anything else produced.
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  • #1,366
  • May 18, 2017 4:21pm May 18, 2017 4:21pm
yes I tried your indicator but it locked the charts up completely had to delete it. I am not good with technology so i did not know what to do. Thanks, bob
  • #1,367
  • May 18, 2017 4:33pm May 18, 2017 4:33pm
Quoting pquirst
yes I tried your indicator but it locked the charts up completely had to delete it. I am not good with technology so i did not know what to do. Thanks, bob
Well it's not "my" indicator it was developed by member "parviz".

The newest versions do use a lot of the CPU. I use the 8.5 version. If I have a few charts up with the indicator on each, my platform also lags and freezes. What I do is put the indi on one chart, find any potential waves that I want to track, then delete the indi and put up the wave manually. Then I move on to the next pair. That way I keep my platform running normal.
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  • #1,368
  • May 18, 2017 5:38pm May 18, 2017 5:38pm
ok sounds good thanks for all your help and GOD BLESS
  • #1,369
  • May 18, 2017 5:59pm May 18, 2017 5:59pm
I've been watching this one for a month and it's finally reached my scale in zone. Hopefully price will drift lower and fill up some of my positions. I have 40 micro lots ready with 2 pips between each position.

Gann believed the fans carried more relevance on higher time frames, the weekly being particularly powerful. Judging from that fact, I would think there should be some strong resistance at the bottom of the scale in zone should price make it that far. Probably not a coincidence that the 38.2FIB from the larger move is right in that area.

I think this set up potentially offers a nice RR. It will require some patience to be sure, but hopefully over the next few months the fundamentals and the carry trade factor will ultimately get the Kiwi heading back up again.

NZD/CHF WEEKLY CWW
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And here's what it looks like with the limit orders all set up. Just set them all at 100 pip SL with 300 pip TP. Will adjust TPs if orders get filled. Looks outrageous 2 pips apart on a weekly chart!

By the way the scaling script I started using has been such a blessing. Saves a lot of time and is easy to use.
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  • #1,370
  • May 18, 2017 8:14pm May 18, 2017 8:14pm
All set up and waiting.......

EUR/USD 15MIN CWW
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  • #1,371
  • May 18, 2017 9:20pm May 18, 2017 9:20pm
Quoting Expo33
All set up and waiting....... EUR/USD 15MIN CWW {image}
Also a bigger potential wave in play here

EUR/USD 1H CWW - POTENTIAL HEAD AND SHOULDERS
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  • #1,372
  • May 19, 2017 3:26am May 19, 2017 3:26am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Also not a WW. The structure becomes invalid once price forms a lower low after point C was established I respectfully suggest you go back to post#1 and learn from the start what constitutes a classic Wolfe wave.
I see thanks, i just cant find precised signal yesterday, so i make do with them...
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  • #1,373
  • May 19, 2017 4:01am May 19, 2017 4:01am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} UJ sells off pips so trade is into the scrap heap. Turns out my original zone would have filled 3 out of the 5 positions for nice 30+ pip gain. Note to self: stop making things so complicated!!
the reason you missed this....you do need WSR!

when near super SR lvls, you can enter at 70-80% AB
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  • #1,374
  • May 19, 2017 4:21am May 19, 2017 4:21am
thanks guys even though I could not get the indicator on page one of the thread i could get the point zero wolfe wave on my mt4 i can see the power of these patterns
  • #1,375
  • May 19, 2017 6:58am May 19, 2017 6:58am
Heres a wave , within a opposite wave . Not sure about this last setup , guess ill watch TDI indicator to determine. also gold opens soon so it could go either way

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  • #1,376
  • May 19, 2017 7:39am May 19, 2017 7:39am
Quoting Tbuild
Heres a wave , within a opposite wave . Not sure about this last setup , guess ill watch TDI indicator to determine. also gold opens soon so it could go either way {image}
Nice chart Tbuild.

I like the way you're seeing the big picture.
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  • #1,377
  • May 19, 2017 8:02am May 19, 2017 8:02am
nzdcad 1.618ab=cd
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  • May 19, 2017 10:46am May 19, 2017 10:46am
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  • #1,379
  • May 19, 2017 11:03pm May 19, 2017 11:03pm
Is anyone using parviz Indicator? how do I know what the correct depth setting I should be using is?
  • #1,380
  • Edited 8:38pm May 20, 2017 12:40am | Edited 8:38pm
Quoting GoldenEmpire
Is anyone using parviz Indicator? how do I know what the correct depth setting I should be using is?
Hi Golden.

There is no "correct" extdepth setting. The latest versions of the indicator (9.6 and 9.6.1) both automatically search all time frames and all extdepth settings. When it's done with the search, it will show clickable "buttons" that reveal the waves it has found. You can then click on the button to see the wave it has detected.

The older version 8.5 does not automatically search for Wolfe waves. The user has to select the time frame and the extdepth setting manually.

Many waves that have extremely choppy price action can not be detected by the indicator regardless of what the extdepth setting is on. Thus, it is beneficial to be able to detect and plot on Wolfe waves manually.

Just in case you haven't seen it, on post #1 the developer of the indicator, "parviz1953" has attached instructions for each of the 3 versions I mentioned above. Hopefully, he will correct me if I've made any mistakes explaining how the indicators work.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. In the meantime, best of luck to you and thanks for posting.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, -Kurt
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