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  • #1,401
  • May 13, 2017 3:23pm May 13, 2017 3:23pm
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} Not before Neal teaches us his secret method. I want a golden toilet.
Not you, my friend... You are a troll!

I learned more from Neal than a ton of paid courses i have taken. Go ahead, feel free to call me a moron, an idiot, and worse...

It's Ok, i can take it!

You know what, Neal's ideas are very valuable to me. What do you have to offer, dear troll?

Enjoy your day!
  • #1,402
  • May 13, 2017 3:30pm May 13, 2017 3:30pm
Quoting nealpek
Redeflect, is just giving a small nudge in the right direction acceptable? Don't forget about the matching golden bidet(that's french for ass cleaner)!
Sure, just make sure it isn't the wrong direction first.

Pretty tough to do when you don't know which direction other people are facing. Especially tough if they don't know their head from their ass.

At this point I'll take a bow.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,403
  • May 13, 2017 3:39pm May 13, 2017 3:39pm
Quoting nealpek
Are you a successful trader?

I'm a success.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,404
  • May 13, 2017 3:44pm May 13, 2017 3:44pm
Quoting nealpek
Success in what capacity? Successful at trading, bike riding, cooking....
You really don't get it...
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,405
  • May 13, 2017 4:05pm May 13, 2017 4:05pm
Quoting nealpek
Your just a success in general....I got it!! Have you set any goals for yourself relative to trading? Why did you choose this profession?
You're operating on a level of ignorance that astounds me. The fact that you've even managed to turn a profit is baffling.

I originally acknowledged trading as a 'profession' because I, like you, was once a very confused and unaware little boy that thought it was an easy way of acquiring money as a means to an end.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,406
  • May 13, 2017 4:27pm May 13, 2017 4:27pm
Quoting nealpek
Do you find trading easy now?
No, it takes a lot of time and effort to make sure individuals like you don't screw us all over.

IE: The ones that don't get it but think they do.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,407
  • May 13, 2017 4:46pm May 13, 2017 4:46pm
Quoting nealpek
Well perhaps one day I might figure it out... Nice weekend to everyone!
You won't. You're already too stupid about it. You can't learn what you think you already know.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,408
  • Edited 5:54pm May 13, 2017 5:03pm | Edited 5:54pm
Quoting VEEFX
THERE IS NO SECRET EDGE IN TRADING! THERE IS NO STRATEGY THAT WORKS ALL THE TIME IN ALL THE MARKET CONDITIONS! !!!
Yes, there is a secret edge. Any edge someone uses that you don't know about, would be a secret to you.
If you don't have a strategy that works ALL THE TIME in all markets, all conditions and all time frames, then you don't have a winning strategy in the long run. These are the 3 main things I look for when creating a strategy. After all there are only 2 possible ways you can trade - range (buy support, sell resistance) and trend (buy/sell pullbacks). But at the end of the day your goal is the same in all markets, market conditions, and time frames - buy low, sell high for longs and sell high, buy low for shorts.
  • #1,409
  • May 13, 2017 5:04pm May 13, 2017 5:04pm
Quoting srt
Kanzler: "Then you make money from your strategy?" Redeflect: "My 'strategy' is THE strategy. I by no means take credit for having some ingenious methodology. The way to be profitable wasn't devised by me. It was only through humility and learning what everyone else is doing that I was able to discover what doesn't work. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. I understand the madness, so, why wouldn't I also understand how to exploit the expectations?" Kanzler: "You do realize, that your reply was a...
Ah, the little blue boxes... those things are cute aren't they? Imagine if things were so simple we'd just need to snug our minds safely inside a tiny little box.

You can call yourself a trader all day long. It doesn't change what you are. Good luck to you, you're going to need it.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,410
  • May 13, 2017 5:20pm May 13, 2017 5:20pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Edge does not exist in the market which will work "ALL THE TIME"....
How do you know that?
k
  • #1,411
  • May 13, 2017 5:36pm May 13, 2017 5:36pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} How do you know that? k

Shh... it's a secret.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,412
  • May 13, 2017 5:40pm May 13, 2017 5:40pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} That is one horseshit you said there in bold. You are defining what a 'secret' is. Ofcource if I don't know it is a unknown i.e. secret kept from me. If you have an edge, it should work consistently otherwise it is just a temporary edge which will decay over time and then you will be in a circular state trying to find another 'edge'. Edge does not exist in the market which will work "ALL THE TIME".... you overlooked the core portion of my statement. {image}
Sorry about that, I just added "ALL THE TIME" to my previous post
About the bold statement, yes it's bold and it pretty much defines what a secret is. I hope now you understand the definition
  • #1,413
  • May 13, 2017 5:45pm May 13, 2017 5:45pm
You guys need to use the ignore button more.
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.......
  • #1,414
  • May 13, 2017 5:47pm May 13, 2017 5:47pm
Quoting trickshady
{quote} Yes, there is a secret edge. Any edge someone uses that you don't know about, would be a secret to you. If you don't have a strategy that works ALL THE TIME in all markets, all conditions and all time frames, then you don't have a winning strategy in the long run. These are the 3 main things I look for when creating a strategy. After all there are only 2 possible ways you can trade - range (buy support, sell resistance) and trend (buy/sell pullbacks). But at the end of the day your goal is the same in all markets, market conditions, and...
Buy high, sell low for shorts? I'm confused.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,415
  • May 13, 2017 5:48pm May 13, 2017 5:48pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} How do you not know? Lol.. have to keep this brief as i am on my mobile. markets are efficient and odds are stacked a mile high against us retail traders to hide those effeciecies. I am no gambler but adding a 0 on roulette adds edge for casino. have you found your 0? Has anyone?

Define 'anyone'. I thought we were talking about zeros not ones... Binary is such a confusing thing when you zoom out.

I think you're referring to "EMH"... the Efficient Market Hypothesis. Well, considering no one has all relevant information... I guess we know why it's just a theory.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,416
  • May 13, 2017 5:48pm May 13, 2017 5:48pm
I agree with trickshady. Your 'strategy' needs to stand up in all conditions of trend range reversal and major volatility (news). There is only one way to trade
  • #1,417
  • May 13, 2017 5:52pm May 13, 2017 5:52pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} I wish. Ignore only hides the post in a thread instead of completely blocking a member out of your life :-)
That's no good. Maybe its something Forex Factory admin can implement? It would reduce a fair bit of infighting and potentially keep those who actually contribute around the forums.
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.......
  • #1,418
  • May 13, 2017 5:54pm May 13, 2017 5:54pm
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} Buy high, sell low for shorts? I'm confused.
Sell high, buy low for shorts LOL
Edited it so it's less confusing.
  • #1,419
  • May 13, 2017 6:09pm May 13, 2017 6:09pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} How do you not know? Lol.. have to keep this brief as i am on my mobile. markets are efficient and odds are stacked a mile high against us retail traders to hide those effeciecies. I am no gambler but adding a 0 on roulette adds edge for casino. have you found your 0? Has anyone?
Here is one (there are many others imho, you yourself have shared one earlier in the thread): The necessary condition for the price to move is the imbalance between buyers and sellers. This can be read off directly from the candlestick chart.
k

http://www.tradeciety.com/understand...icks-patterns/
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  • #1,420
  • May 13, 2017 6:11pm May 13, 2017 6:11pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Let's try this again. I have a strategy that works in all markets ranging and trending and it does not involve buy low sell high or sell high buy low or buy high sell low or sell low buy high but it has zero relation with me knowing or having an edge. Edge is something you can exploit for a long time. I have no edge what edge I am exploiting when my stats show 2 weeks in Feb and April as profitable for pass 4-5 yrs. If anyone has an edge, I would be happy to see some responses to https://www.tinyurl.com/veefx without revealing...
Oh, the 'what' is simple.
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