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  • #1,361
  • Edited 5:51pm May 12, 2017 4:59pm | Edited 5:51pm
Quoting nealpek
You are really cracking me up. You said anyone with a winning method is just waiting to lose everything. Well I guess I'm still waiting.. If it's not my method that's generating these profits then what is? As far as shortcuts, you are absolutely right. A chance encounter with a fine gentleman actually changed my life. He showed me the most simplistic rediculous method, that I'm even teaching to my ten year old children with their own funded account how to trade. I will never forget this kind man and the gift he gave me. This is why from time to...
Then it isn't 'your method'. It was his method and you're mimicking it and pretending you understand what you're doing. You're the reason why we shouldn't be handing out shortcuts. Handing fireworks to children is never a good idea.

Ronda's afraid of people like you. I don't need to 'trade ideas' with you because I already understand exactly what the 'simplistic ridiculous method' was. I understand it better than you do. You and your way of doing things is a danger to all of us. That 'nice man' should never have shown you a shortcut. Others are paying the price for his mistake.

You think 'your method' is making you money? No, you're stealing money from everyone else. People who are actually putting effort into earning what they have. You're a thief and you're teaching your sons to be thieves. You're a disgrace in the eyes of everyone that understands what you're doing and should be despised by everyone else that doesn't know. Make sure your children know that daddy is a thief. You disgust us.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,362
  • May 12, 2017 5:51pm May 12, 2017 5:51pm
Quoting RondaRousey
{quote} You are just an attention seeker who posts more than you trade. Winning traders will not share what they know to someone like you, a know all. You use indicators galore because you are a master of none. When are you going to admit you are a losing trader dishing out complete garbage? I doubt if anyone on this thread has learnt something from your posts because I haven't.
I don't need indicators because I understand how they work. There's no point in using them if you already know what they'll say.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,363
  • May 12, 2017 5:51pm May 12, 2017 5:51pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you are kidding, from your 1000 usd, no wins until now, no true reality knowledge, only theoretic wins by stupid method, so you will win 6 millions each year. maybe you should go back to your basic with fictive winning and start learning easy math. you sound so stupid by telling this sentences to the people and same time you tell people you are best retail trader the world has. why always its so easy to see big big loser from the beginning, you should ask you this why it was so easy to put you in this area after some postings and that this...
have you got ANY proof you are a consistent trader?
still waiting dukasss.
iceberging is one thing you seem not to understand. See when you have $$ to put on the market you dont want to just put one order in. Why? You will be slipped due to the lack of liquidity to fill your order size. So to prevent this, you cut your order into many pieces.
Ive got much to teach you dukass. Just listen stop with the BS.
  • #1,364
  • May 12, 2017 5:53pm May 12, 2017 5:53pm
Quoting RondaRousey
{quote} WRONG. Failure is the secret to success. Failure points you to the right direction
WRONG. The secret to success is that there's no such thing as failure. Going in the right direction just shows you that you're wrong.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,365
  • May 12, 2017 6:00pm May 12, 2017 6:00pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} neal - please continue to post here. I missed most of your posts which are now showing as empty. Ignore the naysayers dude. Some people are just bitter with other people's life and successes. Even I have a fulltime job averaging 60+ hours from home most of the time and doing almost everything you mentioned for my wife and kids plus putting another 20+ on FX to continue doing what I like. Some just don't get it.
He's bragging about using someone else's method that was given to him(winning the lottery), calling it 'his method'(taking pride in his luck), and talking about how successful he is because of all the things he bought with the money he stole(what he's doing with the money he didn't deserve). He doesn't even 'get it'. He's just another moron putting us in danger because some 'nice guy' made the mistake of teaching him a shortcut without questioning if he understood what he was doing. He doesn't even understand why it works. He just knows he gets money from it that he can use to get stuff he likes.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,366
  • May 12, 2017 6:05pm May 12, 2017 6:05pm
Quoting WolGod
{quote} have you got ANY proof you are a consistent trader? still waiting dukasss. iceberging is one thing you seem not to understand. See when you have $$ to put on the market you dont want to just put one order in. Why? You will be slipped due to the lack of liquidity to fill your order size. So to prevent this, you cut your order into many pieces. Ive got much to teach you dukass. Just listen stop with the BS.
hehe, a 1000 usd man (who lost all in trading again and again and even dont have the 1000 usd any more with big chance) will teach me about iceberg orders?

hey, be amazed , i know iceberging longer then you maybe know the word trading. looks really you are so stupid like you tell all people here. you dont know nothing, sound unexperiended and cant see what others know.

no wonder you have only 1000 usd in your best times and noone invest in your stupid bullshit.
i shall prove a person like you something? thing twice about, would you prove someone something, who is like you (nobody to trust, liar, very bad experience, arrgoant, unhonest,.... endless list)? and you are so new (newbie idiotic talk you have in all your posts) that you even cant see, i dont sell anything/i dont manage anything (at least not this kind what you will at maximum know as managing), i dont search for trading ideas (i have still so many to implement when sometimes is needed and old strategies dont will work maybe some day), so what to proof? proof that you are a liar ,bad trader, unhonest ,... i did already! what problem you still have to need to know?

i really wonder if you lost already all your families money, because you have only less then 1000 usd left (whats nothing for a trader who tells all he is the best trader in the world - in real is of course only last trader clown) and look for money to trader because you dont can trade your account big enough because of no experience and only fantastic fiction and only losses in real live.
  • #1,367
  • May 12, 2017 6:25pm May 12, 2017 6:25pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} hehe, a 1000 usd man (who lost all in trading again and again and even dont have the 1000 usd any more with big chance) will teach me about iceberg orders? hey, be amazed , i know iceberging longer then you maybe know the word trading. looks really you are so stupid like you tell all people here. you dont know nothing, sound unexperiended and cant see what others know. no wonder you have only 1000 usd in your best times and noone invest in your stupid bullshit. i shall prove a person like you something? thing twice about, would you prove...
so still no proof?
I believe you that you worked for banks/instituions you know the speak. But you still dont have the faintest idea of what really goes on.
you still believe market conditions require different strategies, like suddenly the art of buying and selling changes. So fucking retail. The fact you use fibs stochs and think break out trading is a good idea shows me you were never shown the real game. Shame for you. LOL this $1000 business ?? you weirdo. My learning account? Your english letting you down again.
I am new (5 years) but i was very fortunate to meet the players in the game world biggest players, and have now a strategy that will make money in any market (because its built bank accumulation process which is done everyday if you know what it is) and unlike you I will show proof in 3-6 months.
  • #1,368
  • May 12, 2017 6:49pm May 12, 2017 6:49pm
Quoting WolGod
{quote} so still no proof? I believe you that you worked for banks/instituions you know the speak. But you still dont have the faintest idea of what really goes on. you still believe market conditions require different strategies, like suddenly the art of buying and selling changes. So fucking retail. The fact you use fibs stochs and think break out trading is a good idea shows me you were never shown the real game. Shame for you. LOL this $1000 business ?? you weirdo. My learning account? Your english letting you down again. I am new (5 years)...
if so, why are you willing to wait 3-6 months? illogicalness...
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #1,369
  • Edited 7:44pm May 12, 2017 7:16pm | Edited 7:44pm
Quoting nealpek
Pretending? The method works because it makes sense, and simple proves that all of the indicators, blah blah blah, aren't required. I really don't see your point. Someone showed this gentleman years earlier the same thing. If I didn't crack it myself 100%, then it's not legitimate?
If you didn't crack it yourself then, no, you have not a single clue what you're doing. Simply the fact that you think you have 'proof that all of the indicators aren't required' demonstrates that you're a moron and don't understand or deserve the money you're wasting. You're a despicable human being and it's a shame that the rest of us have to take care of your ignorant self. You're a pathetic excuse for a trader. You don't even have your own method. Someone had to give you a shortcut like it's amateur hour just so you wouldn't die stupid AND poor.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,370
  • May 12, 2017 7:24pm May 12, 2017 7:24pm
Quoting deltaone
{quote} if so, why are you willing to wait 3-6 months? illogicalness...
To prove mine? Im literally just starting now. I can show along the way i guess. Is that what you mean?
  • #1,371
  • May 12, 2017 7:27pm May 12, 2017 7:27pm
Question re trade explorer. I dont understand people have positive % but its clear they are losing miney wtf??

the only data that seems to mean anything is profit factor. The % are just whack. Can anyone enlighten on this? And can we all just focus on profit factor? Thats the number no??
  • #1,372
  • May 12, 2017 10:10pm May 12, 2017 10:10pm
Quoting nealpek
Here is a piece of info. time frame doesn't matter, instrument doesn't matter. Where is price going next, and how would you trade it? Don't be shy!! there are no wrong answers. {image}
This is the problem with FF Forums. The price history chart cannot predict future price movement. More important to a price chart are trader's positioning, macro economics, trader sentiment, large trader/bank's positions (Citibank, ANZ, Commonwealth, HSBC.. ect), central bank & monetary policy.. pretty much everything but the historic price charts.
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  • #1,373
  • Edited May 13, 2017 12:51am May 12, 2017 11:06pm | Edited May 13, 2017 12:51am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Let's not be so judgemental and shut him off dude. He is just sharing (and not selling I think) what he does. We don't have to agree or disagree. I don't defend anyone or their methods (which I have no idea what/how he does). If it is making money for him regardless of what the background journey is, more power to him. I have seen this over and over again with traders. They just cannot accept that someone is profitable. It triggers a lot of unnecessary animosity and emotional turmoil in their psyche for some reason which is rooted deep into...
I know EXACTLY what he is doing and the consequences of it. I have no envy for 'his method'. I am not judging him. I am judging 'his method' and if you understood what it was, how it worked, and the consequences of teaching it that way then you'd show just as much disdain.

I mean... he's teaching it to his kids. He's fucking them up without even knowing it.

You have to be a special kind of stupid to teach kids an easy way to have unlimited money. Especially when you don't understand how the f*ck it works.(And now you know what a moron will do with the money... teach his kids to do whatever they want with it because he has no idea what discipline is)
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,374
  • May 13, 2017 2:45am May 13, 2017 2:45am
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} I know EXACTLY what he is doing and the consequences of it. I have no envy for 'his method'. I am not judging him. I am judging 'his method' and if you understood what it was, how it worked, and the consequences of teaching it that way then you'd show just as much disdain. I mean... he's teaching it to his kids. He's fucking them up without even knowing it. You have to be a special kind of stupid to teach kids an easy way to have unlimited money. Especially when you don't understand how the f*ck it works.(And now you know what a moron will...
Insulting others gives away your lack of intelligence and shows everyone the kind of person you are. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and show everyone here just how rubbish you are at trading. I bet you will start insulting me now and try divert the question. I bet you won't have the balls to do it because everyone is going to laugh at your results.

Show us your trading account
  • #1,375
  • May 13, 2017 6:07am May 13, 2017 6:07am
Strategies are very much important in Forex Trading and relying on one strategy is also not good, you need to change your strategies from time to time.
  • #1,376
  • May 13, 2017 6:22am May 13, 2017 6:22am
Do whatever you've been doing but applied it on higher timeframes ...
A "profitable" strategy won't work on all instruments and all timeframes as each instrument has its own behaviors ...
The only "usable" general indicator is the Strength of USD if we're playing major pairs ...
Market is not random but unpredictable
  • #1,377
  • May 13, 2017 6:50am May 13, 2017 6:50am
Quoting freakout
So... I have 5 years of experience, I know price action, I know how to trade with trend, I know how to manage risk, etc., but I still don't have a strategy. Is this normal or it's a waste of time? I'm not looking for a holy grail, but for something really simple with 50% accuracy at 1:2 ratio. 3-5 trades per day during EU session and that's all. I tried to trade H1-H4 pullbacks, pivots, breakouts and many other strategies but without any success... Should I continue my searches or it's time to leave it?
This is a common scenario to almost all traders, some even take more than five years and counting, personally it take me more than eight years to finally pull everything together and make a viable approach that can perhaps drive my trading to a better direction, can you imagine the effort and money wasted over the years, this is the reality of trading, most of us thought in the early days that trading is not that hard to master and be profitable in a year time but that will not be the case to the majority of traders, that is why my advice to newbies in this market if you want to make money as soon as possible in trading it would have been better to copy trades or invest in PAMM account while still learning to trade on your own.
  • #1,378
  • May 13, 2017 6:54am May 13, 2017 6:54am
Quoting WolGod
Question re trade explorer. I dont understand people have positive % but its clear they are losing miney wtf?? the only data that seems to mean anything is profit factor. The % are just whack. Can anyone enlighten on this? And can we all just focus on profit factor? Thats the number no??
TE is nothing, less then nothing. it shows nothing and can never. all whats important is the overall performance of someones money (all money: real estate, shares, forex, bonds,....). you can open 10 TE, have 3 big in plus and post it, and same time has 7 in loss and all together loss. post your good te and you will be the best here, and overall are nothing. because you will never know whats all together for this person, TE can never say anything.


all whats count its overall performance of all money someone has together (and not in 1 account). some beginner even think when you put in 1000 in an account, double it in 1 year, put 1000 out, and double it again in the next year you will have 200%. but thats not true, because its simple wrong calculation, because always the complete money needs to be calculated, not only in account. many may think so in the beginning, until they learn its stupid to count this way the performance, because it shows no real performance of someone (often is complete different to the real performance). even crucial point needed to be corrected in this simple point.
  • #1,379
  • May 13, 2017 6:58am May 13, 2017 6:58am
Quoting WolGod
{quote} To prove mine? Im literally just starting now. I can show along the way i guess. Is that what you mean?
but you told you started many month ago already. so with your told big success rate on paper, you would have make your 1000 usd already to many ten thousands of dollars. so why you think it will get better when last months wasnt this good?

maybe its best to do this way: get your results , get sucess, get at least satisfied with your trading style in real trading. then start to say parts like "i am the best retail trader in the world", "only my trading method is usefull", "using indicators is bullshit",......

after you get results i dont say anything. i would not want to see the results, because are so easy to fake. but when you write you are at starting point and tell this sentences, its no wonder many people cant accept your style.

on paper i have seen thousands big winning, in real maybe 200.
  • #1,380
  • May 13, 2017 7:54am May 13, 2017 7:54am
Forex Dementia: A psychological disorder by which the individual believes that he/she has discovered a unique trading method /approach that yields consistent winners and is impervious to losses or reversals of any kind (i.e. the holy grail ). It can be contagious and may be spread to the individuals personal contacts, friends or family depending upon the level of enthusiasm exhibited by the individual in communicating news of his/her findings to others. It is characterized by a high state of euphoria
in which the individual believes that in the immediate future their financial concerns will be eliminated or lessened by their new found trading abilities. This condition inevitably leads to Forex Meloncholia in which the individual discovers that their unique ,highly profitable trading plan is neither unique or profitable and is ,in fact, lucky to break even. These two conditions, when viewed as whole, are termed Forex Bipolar Syndrome. There is no known cure and the disorder, although not terminal,can be life altering. If I ever find a cure for myself , I will let you know immediately
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