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  • #1,141
  • May 6, 2017 10:06am May 6, 2017 10:06am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} but what happens when someone write big mistakes or sometimes 100% bullshit (and cant correct it, dont stand to it, cant bring arguments,.....)? did you refer your post to the Cp problem?
If you are open to discussion and not criticisms then answer this question, how do you know when anything is a bullshit? Can you provide objective proof it is bullshit?
And if it is bullshit, can you objectively prove that your point of view is right?
If you can't do these things then you don't give any value to discussion because you are throwing words in the air.
It is easy to be trapped by emotions but giving objective proof is a total different story.

Alex
  • #1,142
  • Edited 10:25am May 6, 2017 10:07am | Edited 10:25am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Yes, those times do exist. But when? And even if you are lucky enough to be there when that happens I doubt the odds are better than 60/40. Someone has to take the other side of the trade, and if you have a perfect trade, then who would take the other side? Perfect trades do not exist. {quote} Had to do more than just like this post. Very important.
Who takes the other side of the trades? Everyone else in society. Money doesn't exist.

My objective isn't to find 60-40 odds. My objective is to find the significant variables that make the odds better than 50-50 and then be prepared to respond to those variables. Are any of us under the impression that the French election on Sunday isn't going to have a direct impact on the market based on the outcome? I don't see it as 50-50. I see it as Macron = High probability of short burst up and Le Pen = Low probability of long leg down. That's simply based off of expectation. MOST people are betting in the direction of MOST likely. Which is why I want Le Pen to win... no one expects the unexpected over the expected and the longer it takes for them to realize they were wrong = the more money that can be milked out of the move.


My best friend loves to say 'Well, you're not wrong' instead of agreeing or disagreeing with people. It's frustrating simply because I KNOW he says it as a way to sooth me like a child. The most frustrating part is there isn't any way I can retort. Humans hate being wrong. Thinking about the possibility that they are wrong makes them feel attacked/in danger. Hell; that's one of the main reasons traders lose money.

I (and him) were always of the mindset 'I don't mind being wrong. I WANT to be wrong. That way tomorrow I can be right... It's sort of disappointing when you finally realize there is no 'being right'.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,143
  • Edited 10:38am May 6, 2017 10:27am | Edited 10:38am
Quoting alexx90
{quote} If you are open to discussion and not criticisms then answer this question, how do you know when anything is a bullshit? Can you provide objective proof it is bullshit? And if it is bullshit, can you objectively prove that your point of view is right? If you can't do these things then you don't give any value to discussion because you are throwing words in the air. It is easy to be trapped by emotions but giving objective proof is a total different story. Alex
of course, ask me any you like. i did corrected already some of his mistakes. by the way, why/when i told all is bullshit? (start reading correct), i told that many of his postings when he teached book content was ok. looks like when he is putting in private mind informations it get crazy and wrong.

some are:
- not using Stoploss in his own picture with his trade by teaching Sl using (and as a scalper is even more crazy)
- speaking about very big wins each month and not calculating real money someone has (only left money in account)
- wrong example with catching ball without brain used
- want prove something with a picture
...

to what problem at special you refer your post, ask me directly so i can ask,i dont want rewrite many all again.
bullshit is, when someone teachs something and trades different. if someone is showed his mistakes, and he cant accept and hides. if he speakes like is he a medium trader and dont know that with his showed picture he proves zero (only beginner will think with a picture you can prove something). its more easy when you bring some points and i can ask to this.

why do you think he is running and not responding to his showed mistakes/big mistakes. why dou you think he dont want bring arguments? he can only lose in a discussion because he knows he is wrong after we teached him whats reality. he lives in different world, he dont want that other look at him who he really is. thats a problem, that he cant stand to his mistakes. it is really diffiicult how such a person could win in trading with this personality, but that he is a bad trader i dont know, he showed some expamples that looks like he is bad trader, but maybe because was fake picture its not that bad like it looks like. anyway, not very good for him and difficult to defend such a person.
  • #1,144
  • May 6, 2017 10:28am May 6, 2017 10:28am
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} I haven't payed enough attention but it probably happens even more signifiantly every 4 hours. That's manipulation. .
With respect, you need to learn about market depth and liquidity.
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  • #1,145
  • May 6, 2017 10:29am May 6, 2017 10:29am
Quoting Redeflect
There is only one way to trade; scalping the fundamentals as profitably as possible. .
I think you are on your own with that opinion.
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  • #1,146
  • May 6, 2017 10:34am May 6, 2017 10:34am
Quoting alexx90
{quote} If you are open to discussion and not criticisms then answer this question, how do you know when anything is a bullshit? Can you provide objective proof it is bullshit? And if it is bullshit, can you objectively prove that your point of view is right? If you can't do these things then you don't give any value to discussion because you are throwing words in the air. It is easy to be trapped by emotions but giving objective proof is a total different story. Alex
Everything that anyone says has varying value. Most of what is being said in this thread and put out as fact has little value. This is the nature of Forex factory. Get used to it.
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  • #1,147
  • May 6, 2017 10:40am May 6, 2017 10:40am
Quoting 9jatrader
If you trade breakout your SL should not be on S/R after breakout. For long position it should be below the broken resistance. This is because of the possibility of a very retesting of the broken resistance. Same with support breakout
What timeframe are we speaking of? My ideal situation is to scalp a profit on a breakout and then re-enter when it retests. 2 trades for the price of 1.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,148
  • May 6, 2017 10:50am May 6, 2017 10:50am
Quoting smikester
{quote} With respect, you need to learn about market depth and liquidity.
Not really; because I already understand depth and liquidity. This is a distinctive repetitive relative pattern. The depth/liquidity doesn't change briefly on the minute-by-minute timeframe in a recognizable way like that.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,149
  • May 6, 2017 10:54am May 6, 2017 10:54am
Quoting alexx90
{quote} If you are open to discussion and not criticisms then answer this question, how do you know when anything is a bullshit? Can you provide objective proof it is bullshit? And if it is bullshit, can you objectively prove that your point of view is right? If you can't do these things then you don't give any value to discussion because you are throwing words in the air. It is easy to be trapped by emotions but giving objective proof is a total different story. Alex
Funny you ask for proof here. Never seen you ask of any to your mentor cp. You even said once that all of yr ideas come from him, but ever wondered if you guru was profitable ? And what kind of idea did you get when all he showed here were only riddles or hints ? And do you trade better now because of it ? Can you also prove it, since you ask for proof.
  • #1,150
  • May 6, 2017 10:56am May 6, 2017 10:56am
Quoting smikester
{quote} I think you are on your own with that opinion.
No. I am in truth with that statement. A 100-pip profit is just a long scalp or a dozen ~8 pip scalps. Saying it is an 'opinion' is like saying "You are on your own with the opinion that castle is a bunch of stone bricks".

If you can't understand the logic behind something then why are you wasting your time presuming other people disagree with it? Take a hike. Maybe it'll clear your mind enough for you to pull your head out of your ass.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,151
  • May 6, 2017 10:58am May 6, 2017 10:58am
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} No. I am in truth with that statement. A 100-pip profit is just a long scalp or a dozen ~8 pip scalps. Saying it is an 'opinion' is like saying "You are on your own with the opinion that castle is a bunch of stone bricks". If you can't understand the logic behind something then why are you wasting your time presuming other people disagree with it? Take a hike. Maybe it'll clear your mind enough for you to pull your head out of your ass.
OK, you asked for it.
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  • #1,152
  • May 6, 2017 11:00am May 6, 2017 11:00am
Quoting metta87
{quote} Funny you ask for proof here. Never seen you ask of any to your mentor cp. You even said once that all of yr ideas come from him, but ever wondered if you guru was profitable ? And what kind of idea did you get when all he showed here were only riddles or hints ? And do you trade better now because of it ? Can you also prove it, since you ask for proof.
The moment I do a statement then I will prove it, since I didn't do any statement here then I don't have anything to prove.
You guys are doing statements here and there so you are the guys who should prove what you are saying.
It is basic logic discussion, but it seems that you don't even understand these basics principles of communication.
  • #1,153
  • May 6, 2017 11:00am May 6, 2017 11:00am
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} My best friend loves to say 'Well, you're not wrong' instead of agreeing or disagreeing with people. It's frustrating simply because I KNOW he says it as a way to sooth me like a child. '.
I think your best friend knows you quite well and you should listen to him.
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  • #1,154
  • May 6, 2017 11:09am May 6, 2017 11:09am
Quoting smikester
{quote} I think your best friend knows you quite well and you should listen to him.
I think you still have your head up your ass.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
  • #1,155
  • May 6, 2017 11:17am May 6, 2017 11:17am
Quoting alexx90
{quote} The moment I do a statement then I will prove it, since I didn't do any statement here then I don't have anything to prove. You guys are doing statements here and there so you are the guys who should prove what you are saying. It is basic logic discussion, but it seems that you don't even understand these basics principles of communication.
So no proof neither from the guru nor the pupil, but we guys should prove some because it is basic logic. Hmm ok. But even if you dont wanna prove anything, are you now profitable with all the nuggets you got from cp ? Just curious.
  • #1,156
  • May 6, 2017 11:25am May 6, 2017 11:25am
Quoting metta87
{quote} So no proof neither from the guru nor the pupil, but we guys should prove some because it is basic logic. Hmm ok. But even if you dont wanna prove anything, are you now profitable with all the nuggets you got from cp ? Just curious.
If I was teaching people how to trade I would prove my profitability (because you can't teach something you don't know), but since I'm not teaching I don't have anything to prove.
  • #1,157
  • May 6, 2017 11:42am May 6, 2017 11:42am
Quoting alexx90
{quote} If I was teaching people how to trade I would prove my profitability (because you can't teach something you don't know), but since I'm not teaching I don't have anything to prove.
Ok no proof then, but at least you can say if you are or not. Just a yes or no will do, as long as its honest tho.Im curious to know.
  • #1,158
  • May 6, 2017 11:58am May 6, 2017 11:58am
Quoting metta87
{quote} Ok no proof then, but at least you can say if you are or not. Just a yes or no will do, as long as its honest tho.Im curious to know.
metta this is a honest answer, it is not because of you. I'm not going to say either "yes" or "no" because I understand the power of words.
First, I think that a statement like either "yes" or "no" is useless and I wouldn't receive such answer so I don't give such answer.
Second, the moment I say either "yes" or "no" it will not be only a "yes" or "no", it will be more because people build castles over words.
And I'm not here either to create fairy tales or destroy dreams, also because even if I do a statement regarding this topic I will not prove it (because I don't want) so it is useless.
metta there are a lot of other stuff we can talk
  • #1,159
  • May 6, 2017 12:02pm May 6, 2017 12:02pm
Quoting Redeflect
{quote} I think you still have your head up your ass.
Well, you're not wrong.
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  • #1,160
  • May 6, 2017 12:03pm May 6, 2017 12:03pm
Quoting smikester
{quote} Well, you're not wrong.
Clearly.
"The fun is in the hunt. Not the kill."
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