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  • #1,001
  • May 3, 2017 6:24am May 3, 2017 6:24am
Quoting testcenter
{quote} Dear CrucialPoint! Before you leave FF for ever, I want to thank you for your (at least for me) very valuable insights and hints regarding trading / psychology. Your posts helped me a lot in my style of trading! It is always a pleasure to follow your thoughts / posts (except when there are haters like here, and the posts are more of personal fights, than valuable information (which was not your intention, I guess)) Dont let you bring down by haters. Haters are everywhere... just stand above them Have a great day/life, and move...
why haters, we only corrected his bigger mistakes, the smaller noone corrected. its hard when he posts sometimes stupid mistakes , and you dont correct it and pople will fall for this bullshit. because he did write down some from books, some textes looked not stupid, but many was really bullshit from beginner traders level.

he cant thanks us for correcting his bigger mistakes, he is to big here as faker and dont want show how many times he is wrong. thats his little problem, he was more wrong then the average person here (maybe because he lived a little bit outside the true reality, sounded sometimes little crazy spacy), thats hard for his brain to accept because he fakes he is a medium trader, but shows with what he writes down as beginner (and looks like he dont want be a beginner and so looks for stupid followers who accept this and cant see reality).

Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} why haters, we only corrected his bigger mistakes, the smaller noone corrected. its hard when he posts sometimes tsupid mistakes , and you dont correct it and pople will fall for this bullshit. because he did write down some from books, some textes looked not stupid, but many was really bullshit from beginner traders level. he cant thanks us for correcting his bigger mistakes, he is to big here as faker and dont want show how many times he is wrong. thats his little problem, he was more wrong the the average person here, thats hard for his...
he has to leave, or after some time all would see how many mistakes he already did and will do in future, so running away is his only chance that many stupid will still think he was good. simple plan, but maybe by some will work. you dont will see him defending his arguments, because he cant win with this arguments because they was often totally wrong. and he was teached about this and learned by himself so. but he cant accept it, if he would he would tell others he is a beginner and faked only most of the time he knows more then he did.
  • #1,002
  • May 3, 2017 6:36am May 3, 2017 6:36am
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} The brokers do not have to chase your SL, Ronda. That is not necessary. I am counting all kinds of SLs and here is one simple example of how often a SL gets hit and how often a TP gets given. Many might argue that the SLs and TPs are at break even. That might be so only when one is trading with limit orders only, but there, even a small trend will wipe you out. So, I am not going to explain or enter in arguments with anyone. For me that would be useless. Enjoy your chances. You can see the TP of 0 pips has already 52.33% advantage. Only...
nIce reply mate..
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  • #1,003
  • May 3, 2017 6:40am May 3, 2017 6:40am
Quoting CrucialPoint
Farewell and Good-Bye FF {quote} And so shall I... I've said good bye once, twice... I guess this will be the third and final good-bye (not due to FF or other OP)... I wish everyone the best and good luck in their trading. DO NOT GET SCAMMED Farewell and Goodbye. Peace, CrucialPoint
I really hope you'll reconsider. Some of us actually find value in your posts and enjoy being challenged to think outside of the box. What a shame that this dumpster fire of a thread has contributed to the loss of one of the few truly intelligent and thought provoking members on FF. The personal attacks against you were completely out of line and very unprofessional in my opinion.

At any rate, I sincerely thank you for all of the knowledge you have been willing to share, as cryptic as it tends to be. I for one truly appreciate it. If you'll be posting elsewhere I'll gladly follow.

Cheers and best wishes.

GFx
  • #1,004
  • May 3, 2017 6:46am May 3, 2017 6:46am
Quoting GibbonsFx
{quote} I really hope you'll reconsider. Some of us actually find value in your posts and enjoy being challenged to think outside of the box. What a shame that this dumpster fire of a thread has contributed to the loss of one of the few truly intelligent and thought provoking members on FF. The personal attacks against you were completely out of line and very unprofessional in my opinion. At any rate, I sincerely thank you for all of the knowledge you have been willing to share, as cryptic as it tends to be. I for one truly appreciate it. If you'll...
you can really live with his big mistakes? thats crazy. maybe you are at very starting point and some of his posts (you can simple buy basic method books for same information) could help you. but you trust an trader who dont have reality experience and shows that he cant use even the basic methods in trading?

i really cant understand this, maybe i do this to long and cant see this point from a total beginner side. its really easy for this kind of people (like cp) to impress people even with so big stupid mistakes in his words, thats crazy and scary same time.
  • #1,005
  • May 3, 2017 7:00am May 3, 2017 7:00am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you can really live with his big mistakes? thats crazy. maybe you are at very starting point and some of his posts (you can simple buy basic method books for same information) could help you. but you trust an trader who dont have reality experience and shows that he cant use even the basic methods in trading? i really cant understand this, maybe i do this to long and cant see this point from a total beginner side. its really easy for this kind of people (like cp) to impress people even with so big stupid mistakes in his words, thats crazy...
I'm not interested in the basic methods found in books as they simply do not work, at least not over the long haul. It's the unique, out of the box and abstract approaches to understanding the market and the structure of the market that will lead to success. Seeing things differently than the crowd. Things I am working on learning and understanding in my own personal development as a trader. But thanks for your concern.
  • #1,006
  • May 3, 2017 7:07am May 3, 2017 7:07am
Quoting GibbonsFx
{quote} I'm not interested in the basic methods found in books as they simply do not work, at least not over the long haul. It's the unique, out of the box and abstract approaches to understanding the market and the structure of the market that will lead to success. Seeing things differently than the crowd. Things I am working on learning and understanding in my own personal development as a trader. But thanks for your concern.
i am doing this job 20 years, and i have seen near all of the out of the box people lose very fast in this business (its to good calculateable and to big with math components), or are not really sucessfull compared to the rest (but they are telling all they are, thats really a problem sometimes), the "normal" reality persons got success. looks like we met total different type of people.

with each method of each book you can get sucess, its only just a matter how good is your experience, your basic market knowledge and your math knowledge. of course some methods are better then others, but this can by adjusted with many methods.
  • #1,007
  • May 3, 2017 7:28am May 3, 2017 7:28am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} Thanks mate, its weird i somehow view the forum as a blank painting canvas sometimes, then i wake up and realize i painted living breathing people... its always after a few drinks. Something i need to fix but been saying for too long now kinda fked up really... i really am sorry to all who were offended. its just this outlet ive always had that i dont get elsewhere and its not ok and no thats not me trading takes you places you would never be taken otherwise i guess thats one of the invigerrating things about it, although none of which were...
I said this before and I say it again. Your post is pretty solid n real, I'm certain besides singua n me there're plenty more silent readers think the same. Not just bout trading alone. So don't stfu or make ff syu. For us, thx.
  • #1,008
  • May 3, 2017 7:48am May 3, 2017 7:48am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} Well thats an interesting tbought.. sure i screwed up as a trader more than once but i really pushed and did things i doubt many had the lixury to do. And im still here failure was pain but the reward was imense.. one day i will inherrit millions of dollars and only then will i have the fouth "X"; "capitalization. Everything from now till then is training You tell someone you're a trader and their first question is "how much money do you make" if you cant show them a BMW then they lose interest Its disheartening to say the least but something...
cindy cindy cindy cindy..

ive been seeing your posts for several years now and im glad to finally learn that sometimes you drink, which causes

Quoting CindyXXXX
my alcohole induced psychosis


or else i really didn't know what to think!
you're a good guy


anyways, i feel like when it gets to the point where it's all about the money, then that's where the scams start and the lying.
but can we blame them?
am i allowed to say, the only people who deserve to make a living off of FX are those who do honest trading? when wall street crooks rake in millions?

and all the while there's a battle out there in the real world, i need to make sure that my own account is trading solid?

it's like, even if you can fool everyone around you, you can't fool the markets.

i want to bring about a low spread, regulated platform. and i can't find the right people to work with?
they want 3 pip spreads on EURUSD or they won't bring me customers.
they say oh 100 leverage isn't high enough for our customers.
they want Chinese Union Pay for their chinese clients, then when I get it for them, they come up with some other reason not to use my platform.

I tell people I do FX, and everyone here has a friend who they say does "underground FX" like it's some fucking casino racket.

you're either too early or too late into a market.

i wouldn't trade anything for these years that i spent already, but moving forward i don't know.. what would i rather be doing?

anything else really. because i have the luxury of doing anything else if i really wanted to. so i think I shouldn't complain about anything, i don't get to complain about anything, because i'm afforded luxuries many people can't.

i don't want to work with these other fucks that don't know how to trade. but they do know how to market, and i don't know how to market. shit, i can't even begin to Teach how i trade because that goes against my philosophy of "teaching can't be taught, but it can be learned"
  • #1,009
  • May 3, 2017 8:09am May 3, 2017 8:09am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i am doing this job 20 years, and i have seen near all of the out of the box people lose very fast in this business (its to good calculateable and to big with math components), or are not really sucessfull compared to the rest (but they are telling all they are, thats really a problem sometimes), the "normal" reality persons got success. looks like we met total different type of people. with each method of each book you can get sucess, its only just a matter how good is your experience, your basic market knowledge and your math knowledge....
Interesting
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  • #1,010
  • May 3, 2017 8:17am May 3, 2017 8:17am
Quoting freakout
So... I have 5 years of experience, I know price action, I know how to trade with trend, I know how to manage risk, etc., but I still don't have a strategy.

Is this normal or it's a waste of time?

I'm not looking for a holy grail, but for something really simple with 50% accuracy at 1:2 ratio. 3-5 trades per day during EU session and that's all. I tried to trade H1-H4 pullbacks, pivots,...
You don't know anything after 5 years...

Stop searching and try improving on what you have...

You defined a Holy Grail, highlighted in Bold

Truth is anyone who knows anything is not gonna give you that extra info you need to seal the deal...

The forum needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, for tradng banter only...
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  • #1,011
  • May 3, 2017 8:27am May 3, 2017 8:27am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} Time too tshhh https://youtu.be/scyC9A6o_Ts
I consider you the guy who gave me the biggest edge - the believe that it is possible to be profitable trading forex.

Since that moment my mindset shifted from - the market is not doing what I expected it to do, to - im not doing what the market expects me to do.

This driving force behind persistence, combine with the golden nuggets scattered around FF. Made me progress more In a months time, than In a year.
The truth is hidden from you
  • #1,012
  • May 3, 2017 8:30am May 3, 2017 8:30am
Quoting CrucialPoint
Farewell and Good-Bye FF {quote} And so shall I... I've said good bye once, twice... I guess this will be the third and final good-bye (not due to FF or other OP)... I wish everyone the best and good luck in their trading. DO NOT GET SCAMMED Farewell and Goodbye. Peace, CrucialPoint
good riddance, see you next scam aka your 4th return and "goodbye".
  • #1,013
  • May 3, 2017 8:37am May 3, 2017 8:37am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you can really live with his big mistakes? thats crazy. maybe you are at very starting point and some of his posts (you can simple buy basic method books for same information) could help you. but you trust an trader who dont have reality experience and shows that he cant use even the basic methods in trading? i really cant understand this, maybe i do this to long and cant see this point from a total beginner side. its really easy for this kind of people (like cp) to impress people even with so big stupid mistakes in his words, thats crazy...

For me as a newbie lost in all the same bs of indicator systems and subjective "price action" candlesticks, which is usually a topic of pseudo-intellectual masturbation which makes me physically feel sick. His ideas were a breath of a fresh air. Especially: 1) you must have a clear definition of where you only look to sell, and where you only look to buy. 2) 95% of the time price closes above or bellow the open. Once again thats just my point of view, but some of his few posts gave me the biggest practical knowledge, compared to tons of b.s. Once again I'm still a newbie.
The truth is hidden from you
  • #1,014
  • May 3, 2017 8:38am May 3, 2017 8:38am
Quoting MaxenshteinD
{quote} I consider you the guy who gave me the biggest edge - the believe that it is possible to be profitable trading forex. Since that moment my mindset shifted from - the market is not doing what I expected it to do, to - im not doing what the market expects me to do. This driving force behind persistence, combine with the golden nuggets scattered around FF. Made me progress more In a months time, than In a year.
Well id been trading 5 years loss and breakeven before one pm shifted my mindset into profits, was just 3 paragraphs... I stopped trying to win and started trading

i don't know what you're doing but if i helped so be it

good on you

thanks everyone else for the kind words... All
i can do is wake up tommorow and try not to come on here and be something my father would be ashamed of

thats really my only goal at this point. Dont know what else to say.

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i guess if we get back on topic "Psychology" lol ... Kind of important
cheers all
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  • #1,015
  • May 3, 2017 8:44am May 3, 2017 8:44am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} Well id been trading 5 years loss and breakeven before one pm shifted my mindset into profits, was just 3 paragraphs... I stopped trying to win and started trading i don't know what you're doing but if i helped so be it good on you thanks everyone else for the kind words... All i can do is wake up tommorow and try not to come on here and be something my father would be ashamed of thats really my only goal at this point. Dont know what else to say. https://youtu.be/tHxBA-vgww4 i guess if we get back on topic "Psychology" lol ......
Some things are indeed better to be quiet about, even if your goal is to help. In each century there were ideas, which seemed very controversial to the common believes, speaking about which in public could as a minimum land someone in the crazy house (if the person was really lucky). Ironically the next centuries the same ideas became accepted, but the damage was already done.
No system to my knowledge could function properly if the majority were right rather than wrong.
The truth is hidden from you
  • #1,016
  • May 3, 2017 9:24am May 3, 2017 9:24am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} Well id been trading 5 years loss and breakeven before one pm shifted my mindset into profits, was just 3 paragraphs... I stopped trying to win and started trading i don't know what you're doing but if i helped so be it good on you thanks everyone else for the kind words... All i can do is wake up tommorow and try not to come on here and be something my father would be ashamed of thats really my only goal at this point. Dont know what else to say. https://youtu.be/tHxBA-vgww4 i guess if we...
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  • #1,017
  • May 3, 2017 9:39am May 3, 2017 9:39am
Quoting MaxenshteinD
{quote} For me as a newbie lost in all the same bs of indicator systems and subjective "price action" candlesticks, which is usually a topic of pseudo-intellectual masturbation which makes me physically feel sick. His ideas were a breath of a fresh air. Especially: 1) you must have a clear definition of where you only look to sell, and where you only look to buy. 2) 95% of the time price closes above or bellow the open. Once again thats just my point of view, but some of his few posts gave me the biggest practical knowledge, compared to tons of...
indicators are nothing more then price calculated in different way. you need to know always why it is calculated in this way, what are the advantages and disadvantages and you need to do this calculation manuell too to understand what it will exactly calculate. all indicators can be used or are worthless, depends what someone is looking for, and what he wants to avoid.

"95% of the time price closes above or bellow the open. ". i dont understand this sentence, of course price will do this, depends on timeframe of course. in 1 min not 95 % often when you take in calculation the fees to pay. but its important to know will it close up or down and how it will behave between open and close. that it will not close on starting point is not enough information for a trading system. but this point is something inner box thinking (simple math calculation) not out the box.
  • #1,018
  • May 3, 2017 9:39am May 3, 2017 9:39am
@ CrucialPoint,
Thank you very much for your generous sharing!
  • #1,019
  • May 3, 2017 9:53am May 3, 2017 9:53am
Quoting MaxenshteinD
{quote} I consider you the guy who gave me the biggest edge - the believe that it is possible to be profitable trading forex. Since that moment my mindset shifted from - the market is not doing what I expected it to do, to - im not doing what the market expects me to do. This driving force behind persistence, combine with the golden nuggets scattered around FF. Made me progress more In a months time, than In a year.
my mindset shifted from - the market is not doing what I expected it to do, to - im not doing what the market expects me to do.


That is the holy grail
Ecclesiastes 1:9
  • #1,020
  • May 3, 2017 10:06am May 3, 2017 10:06am
Quoting CindyXXXX
{quote} Well id been trading 5 years loss and breakeven before one pm shifted my mindset into profits, was just 3 paragraphs... I stopped trying to win and started trading i don't know what you're doing but if i helped so be it good on you thanks everyone else for the kind words... All i can do is wake up tommorow and try not to come on here and be something my father would be ashamed of thats really my only goal at this point. Dont know what else to say. https://youtu.be/tHxBA-vgww4 i guess if we get back on topic "Psychology" lol ......
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