Disliked{quote} I do and yes I know you think they are both crapThe 2cv was my humorous vision (to me anyway)of seeing both side by side. I'm not actually into cars, if anything I like old and battered. It used to piss me off years ago when young and stupid with my nice new car when the value dropped quicker than a lead balloon. Or some moron would give it the key treatment. Had my last car about 13 years it was lived in and well battered, bought it second hand too, so someone else had the pleasure of the depreciation first. My Renault is second...
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Yeah I know what you mean. If you know how to fix them, no problem! Cars, in general have come to represent the alter ego, an extension of the person who drives such nice shiny cars. Of course not all, some like the driving experience, but to others it is a status symbol. America in a way is a lot like this mentality to the point they become bullies on the highway! I will never buy a brand new car again. Pre-certified is a good value for almost any car you want to find.