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  • #481
  • Apr 27, 2017 1:01pm Apr 27, 2017 1:01pm
Quoting chaveznqoos
{quote} Hi SwingMan; Could it be an option, in the next release, to be able to select the pairs to operate? Thanks.
now there is the possibility to exclude pairs via EA-setting "dont trade pairs".
It seems to be if you wish to trade 1 pair only, you have to exclude 27 pairs, in extremly case
Not sure, try it out
  • #482
  • Apr 27, 2017 1:14pm Apr 27, 2017 1:14pm
Quoting LuizSchiavi
Hello, Today not so god for me :-( {image} {image} {image}
if you have time please make a short summary (minimum), people here harry up
- EA xxx
- trades from xxx till xxx
- profit / loss
- any remarks what happens
- what must be better

I think you started well
  • #483
  • Apr 27, 2017 1:27pm Apr 27, 2017 1:27pm
[quote=SwingMan;9804420]{quote}


Columns ATR can also be more productive. If a currency pair is not trending. Average range is +/- 30 pips. If the currency pair exceeds 20 pips Daily candle. The ATR column will change color. Such a stupid idea

regards
if you're doing we all have results with all
  • #484
  • Apr 27, 2017 2:17pm Apr 27, 2017 2:17pm
Can anyone tell me what is R? For catching falling knives?

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if you're doing we all have results with all
  • #485
  • Apr 27, 2017 2:23pm Apr 27, 2017 2:23pm
Quoting jarfx05
Can anyone tell me what is R? For catching falling knives? {image}
see #454, reverse
  • #486
  • Apr 27, 2017 2:32pm Apr 27, 2017 2:32pm
Quoting Isabella_D
{quote} see #454, reverse
I have read all the posts here. And I do not understand what R is?
if you're doing we all have results with all
  • #487
  • Apr 27, 2017 2:33pm Apr 27, 2017 2:33pm
Quoting jarfx05
Can anyone tell me what is R? For catching falling knives? {image}
R >>> Reverse trade in case is losing and you want to close current direction and open in opposite direction . Swing stated good for manual but maybe not for automatic

Post 402
  • #488
  • Apr 27, 2017 2:37pm Apr 27, 2017 2:37pm
Quoting rumbaut
{quote} R >>> Reverse trade in case is losing and you want to close current direction and open in opposite direction . Swing stated good for manual but maybe not for automatic Post 402
Theoretically I know I am practically skeptical

Ok. Everyone has his idea for trading
if you're doing we all have results with all
  • #489
  • Apr 27, 2017 2:50pm Apr 27, 2017 2:50pm
v4.1 today
loss 421,57 win 238,07
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Brokertime 09:00-19:00
timeframe changed often, different from here shown EA-settings
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next steps manually trading and short term automatic for more qualitative analysis/questions
  • #490
  • Apr 27, 2017 3:20pm Apr 27, 2017 3:20pm
Quoting Isabella_D
v4.1 today loss 421,57 win 238,07 {image} Brokertime 09:00-19:00 timeframe changed often, different from here shown EA-settings {image} next steps manually trading and short term automatic for more qualitative analysis/questions
Hi Isabella, what you mean about timeframe changed often? what is this? The EA take signals from different tf no? or you speak about atr tf?
i trade today manually swingmode 45. and swing 55.
tp10 pips, sl 40.

one losse, 15 gains
a lot of signals i decline coz, the pairs with singals just close in profit...
so, i make a cople of liltle charts, then when EA give signal i drop on that chart pair with signal, and look on it on m15 tf. If pair is not on pivot sr line, and if its below or above MA, acording to the trend of signal, i take decision. I close in losse some trades coz there was ECB press conference, but was was rong coz this trades was going to close in profit..
and yes, i dont trade demo.
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  • #491
  • Apr 27, 2017 3:34pm Apr 27, 2017 3:34pm
Hi Folks,

27th April - results.

Version 4.1 - Scalpping_33

350 pips loss.

EA in automatic mode is nothing but gambling with the current set-up.

Need a time filter - For a currency pair, after a winning or losing trade, the Expert Adviser need to wait for certain minutes ( 60 minimum) so that there is enough time for fresh signal to be formed.
  • #492
  • Apr 27, 2017 3:46pm Apr 27, 2017 3:46pm
Quoting shum
{quote} Hi Isabella, what you mean about timeframe changed often? what is this? The EA take signals from different tf no? or you speak about atr tf? i trade today manually swingmode 45. and swing 55. tp10 pips, sl 40. one losse, 15 gains a lot of signals i decline coz, the pairs with singals just close in profit... so, i make a cople of liltle charts, then when EA give signal i drop on that chart pair with signal, and look on it on m15 tf. If pair is not on pivot sr line, and if its below or above MA, acording to the trend of signal, i take decision....
I also do not like to trade demo-accounts. In the case of an EA I do it however. Intentionally, I choose parameters (EA-settings), which are extreme (not real). So I hope to find weak spots. (Continue running and run against the wall). In my overview today my EA-settings showed intraday. There was only one exception: the 3 Time-settings (timeframe used) do not match. I should have performed x. But did not name them in the analysis. (Tf1 06: 00-07: 00, tf2 07: 01-07: 35 .... = my personell time segmentation for trades.

Thank you for described method you trade. Your more run reality than I did. As you did I will start tomorrow.
Hope so to see you often.
  • #493
  • Apr 27, 2017 3:49pm Apr 27, 2017 3:49pm
Quoting TradeGraph
Hi Folks, 27th April - results. Version 4.1 - Scalpping_33 350 pips loss. EA in automatic mode is nothing but gambling with the current set-up. Need a time filter - For a currency pair, after a winning or losing trade, the Expert Adviser need to wait for certain minutes ( 60 minimum) so that there is enough time for fresh signal to be formed.
show via your analysis that to wait 60 min is better, see posts above
  • #494
  • Apr 27, 2017 4:05pm Apr 27, 2017 4:05pm
Quoting shum
{quote} Hi Isabella, what you mean about timeframe changed often? what is this? The EA take signals from different tf no? or you speak about atr tf? i trade today manually swingmode 45. and swing 55. tp10 pips, sl 40. one losse, 15 gains a lot of signals i decline coz, the pairs with singals just close in profit... so, i make a cople of liltle charts, then when EA give signal i drop on that chart pair with signal, and look on it on m15 tf. If pair is not on pivot sr line, and if its below or above MA, acording to the trend of signal, i take decision....
Hi Shum

What are your settings ?
  • #495
  • Apr 27, 2017 4:07pm Apr 27, 2017 4:07pm
Quoting TradeGraph
Hi Folks, 27th April - results. Version 4.1 - Scalpping_33 350 pips loss. EA in automatic mode is nothing but gambling with the current set-up. Need a time filter - For a currency pair, after a winning or losing trade, the Expert Adviser need to wait for certain minutes ( 60 minimum) so that there is enough time for fresh signal to be formed.
I don't agree with that, in my case using session time have been good so far, the only issue is some time get my % target in that session and at the end drop down. Having target % by session, closing all open trades and stop trading until next session I think will be good. Proven to me making more than 2% easily in each, so is like 6% daily

mine is swing 45 60 spread atr 5, so far even drooping at the end my equity is +27% in two days 4 sessions
  • #496
  • Apr 27, 2017 4:24pm Apr 27, 2017 4:24pm
Quoting Isabella_D
{quote} I also do not like to trade demo-accounts. In the case of an EA I do it however. Intentionally, I choose parameters (EA-settings), which are extreme (not real). So I hope to find weak spots. (Continue running and run against the wall). In my overview today my EA-settings showed intraday. There was only one exception: the 3 Time-settings (timeframe used) do not match. I should have performed x. But did not name them in the analysis. (Tf1 06: 00-07: 00, tf2 07: 01-07: 35 .... = my personell time segmentation for trades. Thank you for described...
ok, so what we have at this moment here? if to read other traders we will see that most succesufful was the traders on manually trading..
Like i said cople of posts back, skalping mode 3 signals from 3 tfs, are not inaf...
Real trend of the day start from D1 candle( SwingMan mentioned about this when he make his EA to show signals acording to the open daily candle), wich mean, that if price is above daily open candle at the moment of signal coming from minimum 3 tfs, it wil show buy singal, or viceversa for sell.
But.. 3 signals from 3 tfs like m5,m15 and H1, dont represent the real trend of the day, this move, or in our situation signal, can represent a simple pullback on real trend, and going with momentum on trade like this, we risk to lose our sl.
So, in my veiw, swing45 and swing55 mode, wil show you signal from H4 tf, or iven D1, where signals are not represent just signals from SwingMan indicators, but also trend of day, and a signal what are stronger that fisrt 3 tf on column. SO from here we must to start.. forget about skalping mode on auto trading.. auto trading can be used for swing 45 and swing55..and in some good hours and with not all pairs.
So..what to do?
well.. fisrt of all if you have your own system, what can be trade fro exemple on single pair on m15... you make a chart of this sistem, wif all your indies on it. Then you just wait in manually mode the signals from EA SwingMan. When signal come, you drope the pair on that chart, and look on it, if in your system you have a buy trend for exemple, not signal but trend, or direction, and signal from EA its show the same direction, and the price in that 1-2 minutes dont see any sr line in next 10 pips of distance.. you just take decision of opening trade..
SO you will have confirmation not just from EA singals, but from your own systems or knology about trading, no meter wg=hat is it, price action or somthing else.
But remeber, strongers singanls from this EA are minimum 4 from 5.
  • #497
  • Apr 27, 2017 4:36pm Apr 27, 2017 4:36pm
Quoting rumbaut
{quote} Hi Shum What are your settings ?
i mentioned them in that post.

sl 40 pips
tp 10 pips
risk per trade 4-8%
trade from london open, to close of it.
on signal per pair, if next signal come to quiq to the pair what i just close, i decline it, coz i look on the chart of pair and pair can be at that moment on a sr line or pivot, or MA pulback, or 000 level or 50 level .. no meter.
Then i declin all the signals of this pair until i will not see a clean way for this pair to go to next sr line.. its very simple no?
I just start with all this EA, and didnt have a good system of how to used, but i think in that way for me its easy to trade it.
My gola in future is to take 10 trades per day with 10 pips tp.. if it will go, like this i will be happy, and with risky per trade from above it can be earn 20% from account per day.
  • #498
  • Apr 27, 2017 5:04pm Apr 27, 2017 5:04pm
Quoting rumbaut
{quote} I don't agree with that, in my case using session time have been good so far, the only issue is some time get my % target in that session and at the end drop down. Having target % by session, closing all open trades and stop trading until next session I think will be good. Proven to me making more than 2% easily in each, so is like 6% daily mine is swing 45 60 spread atr 5, so far even drooping at the end my equity is +27% in two days 4 sessions
My comments were based on EA running in automatic mode, which is nothing better than gambling with the current setup.

Successfully trading the EA in Manual mode depends on trader's skills and psychology. Well, how many traders will succeed?
  • #499
  • Apr 27, 2017 6:32pm Apr 27, 2017 6:32pm
Quoting shum
{quote} i mentioned them in that post. sl 40 pips tp 10 pips risk per trade 4-8% trade from london open, to close of it. on signal per pair, if next signal come to quiq to the pair what i just close, i decline it, coz i look on the chart of pair and pair can be at that moment on a sr line or pivot, or MA pulback, or 000 level or 50 level .. no meter. Then i declin all the signals of this pair until i will not see a clean way for this pair to go to next sr line.. its very simple no? I just start with all this EA, and didnt have a good system of how...
thanks for the answer, good idea
  • #500
  • Apr 27, 2017 6:56pm Apr 27, 2017 6:56pm
[quote=shum;9805926]{quote} ok, so what we have at this moment here? if to read other traders we will see that most succesufful was the traders on manually trading.. Like i said cople of posts back, skalping mode 3 signals from 3 tfs, are not inaf...

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