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  • #3,261
  • Apr 18, 2017 9:11am Apr 18, 2017 9:11am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Heeeeyyyy Chris! Where have you been? Hope life is treating you well these days. A clear explanation, thanks!
I'm doing well Hun. Been trucking around the good ole USA for some time. Here's a few places I've been in 2017 ... lol
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  • #3,262
  • Apr 18, 2017 9:24am Apr 18, 2017 9:24am
Quoting albchr
{quote} I'm doing well Hun. Been trucking around the good ole USA for some time. Here's a few places I've been in 2017 ... lol {image}
WOW! That's some miles!
  • #3,263
  • Apr 18, 2017 9:30am Apr 18, 2017 9:30am
Quoting verv
"My final question to you is, and I hope you sincerely answer this truthfully is: Do you believe a god or "God" exists? Do you believe that there in such a thing as Ghosts? (human spirits that roam the Earth?)" - this is totally irrelevant to the question at hand. The very nature of a diety is that they cannot be empirically proven.
Do you believe there could be other life forms in our universe? Not yet empirically proven, but do you believe in probability and possibility? Where do you think DNA came from?
  • #3,264
  • Apr 18, 2017 9:34am Apr 18, 2017 9:34am
Quoting jen101
{quote} WOW! That's some miles!
LOL ... yeah. 14,779 in just the past 4 weeks. WHEW! LOL
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  • #3,265
  • Apr 18, 2017 9:38am Apr 18, 2017 9:38am
Quoting albchr
{quote} That's your opinion. Thankfully, everyone has a right to their own. Mine? It's a sign of strength to not bother debating what one already knows to be true. Unless of course, you're trying to sway others to your way of thinking. I am not. It would seem apparently, you are.
But you don't know it to be true, and you have been trying to convince others : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9768234#post9768234

What else is there to say lol.


Quoting jen101
{quote} Do you believe there could be other life forms in our universe? Not yet empirically proven, but do you believe in probability and possibility? Where do you think DNA came from?
The issue of life on other planets hasn't even been seriously investigated, we haven't put boots on our nearest planet nevermind investigated the far reaches of the Universe.

I'm sorry to say, but I think the comparison it totally absurd, and irrelevant.
  • #3,266
  • Apr 18, 2017 9:47am Apr 18, 2017 9:47am
What's interesting is that there are many people in this thread who profess to being agnostic or atheist in relation to a diety for a lack of evidence, yet who somehow believe in some secretive cabal also in the absence of evidence.

There are also other structures that exist in the UK such as the 'City Corporation of London' which is exempt from some UK legislation, which has its own permanent and unelected member of the house of commons called the 'City remembrancer'. This organisation controls the square mile financial district of London, appears to lobby the UK government on behalf of big business and is connected intricately to every major off shore tax haven in the world. It is the subject of a book called 'treasure islands' which I have read. We don't talk about this provable and real organisation called the 'City Corporation of London' instead we talk about some unprovable dynastic cabal, which requires that people believe in a range of highly improbable scenarios, and one which were much more simple explanations can explain its function.

Those contradictions are truly bizarre. Sorry to keep going on about it.
  • #3,267
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:02am Apr 18, 2017 10:02am
Quoting verv
{quote} But you don't know it to be true, and you have been trying to convince others : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9768234#post9768234 What else is there to say lol.
Wrong again. I simply answered Jen's question of where the debt came from in lieu of having printing machines. This I know to be true. Not trying to "convince" anyone of anything. Then you butted in for whatever personal reason(s) you had.

It's pretty clear you like to engage others with your assumptions and then embark on long winded dissertations of your own views and beliefs. But that's cool. As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
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  • #3,268
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:08am Apr 18, 2017 10:08am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Do you believe there could be other life forms in our universe? Not yet empirically proven, but do you believe in probability and possibility? Where do you think DNA came from?
Would be a heck of a waste of space if not .... eh?

I personally believe creation is of an intelligent design and therefore not confined to our little rock. But that's just me.
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  • #3,269
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:14am Apr 18, 2017 10:14am
Quoting albchr
{quote} Wrong again. I simply answered Jen's question of where the debt came from in lieu of having printing machines. This I know to be true. Not trying to "convince" anyone of anything. Then you butted in for whatever personal reason(s) you had. It's pretty clear you like to engage others with your assumptions and then embark on long winded dissertations of your own views and beliefs. But that's cool. As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
That's cool albchr but you didn't 'simply answer'.

Words 'scams', 'privately owned', 'Rothschild', 'real money', 'fake money' communicate a lot more than just detailing the history

you said paid interest to the fed, but failed to mention profits are sent back to the treasury by the fed

so yeh lol
  • #3,270
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:16am Apr 18, 2017 10:16am
Quoting verv
{quote} The issue of life on other planets hasn't even been seriously investigated, we haven't put boots on our nearest planet nevermind investigated the far reaches of the Universe. I'm sorry to say, but I think the comparison it totally absurd, and irrelevant.
There are 400 billion stars in our own galaxy, the Milky Way, and each of these will have a number of exoplanets. There are estimated 2 trillion galaxies in our universe, which is expanding at the speed of light. Is it not probable that some exoplanets could fall within the Goldilocks zone? Look up Drake's equation.

Where do you think DNA came from? If DNA was found on a meteorite, what would you conclude from that?

It is all relevant. It's a gauge to ascertain how open minded you are.
  • #3,271
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:17am Apr 18, 2017 10:17am
Quoting jen101
{quote} There are 400 billion stars in our own galaxy, the Milky Way, and each of these will have a number of exoplanets. There are estimated 2 trillion galaxies in our universe, which is expanding at the speed of light. Is it not probable that some exoplanets could fall within the Goldilocks zone? Look up Drake's equation. Where do you think DNA came from? If DNA was found on a meteorite, what would you conclude from that?
nothing to do with the creature of Jekyll island though
  • #3,272
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:23am Apr 18, 2017 10:23am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Do you believe there could be other life forms in our universe? Not yet empirically proven, but do you believe in probability and possibility? Where do you think DNA came from?
if we are taking about Alien life am in the crackpot section Alien's are real the odds of probability are just too high i hope we see some in my life time
  • #3,273
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:29am Apr 18, 2017 10:29am
Quoting verv
{quote} ... profits are sent back to the treasury by the fed
You like to make much of nothing don't you?. But in regards to your comment above .... Really? Can you "prove" that?

If so, being that we're 20+ trillion in debt, I guess there hasn't been any "profits" for quite some time. ... eh? ... lol
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  • #3,274
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:32am Apr 18, 2017 10:32am
Quoting albchr
{quote} You like to make much of nothing don't you?. But in regards to your comment above .... Really? Can you "prove" that? If so, being that we're 20+ trillion in debt, I guess there hasn't been any "profits" for quite some time. ... eh? ... lol
Who said there were no 'profits'?
http://news.morningstar.com/all/dow-jones/financials/201703247082/fed-sent-915-billion-in-profits-to-us-treasury-in-2016.aspx

  • #3,275
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:38am Apr 18, 2017 10:38am
Quoting verv
{quote} Who said there were no 'profits'? http://news.morningstar.com/all/dow-jones/financials/201703247082/fed-sent-915-billion-in-profits-to-us-treasury-in-2016.aspx
Right. Print Trillions and pay back billions. That's profit? I guess the FED has an unusally high overhead ... eh? Paaalease .... LOL

Anyway, no time for this now. Enjoy.
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  • #3,276
  • Edited 11:55am Apr 18, 2017 10:49am | Edited 11:55am
Quoting albchr
{quote} Right. Print Trillions and pay back billions. That's profit? I guess the FED has an unusally high overhead ... eh? Paaalease .... LOL Anyway, no time for this now. Enjoy.
Frig me lol.

That is $97 billion in a calendar year. Over the course of a 30 year bond, which is what many of the Feds holdings are, that would be $2.91 trillion in interest rate 'profits' sent back to the treasury.

The Fed has said it intends to reduce the size of its balance sheet, meaning they will sell those bonds back to the market, and they will 'destroy' the money they receive for those bonds therefore removing any printed money from the system. Otherwise they can let the assets go to maturity, where they get the money back and destroy it also.

That's how this system works, the printed money from QE which ballooned the Fed balance to trillions as a result of the financial crisis was only ever TEMPORARY. It is NOT debt monetisation because that printed money will be removed from the system when times are better, or when the assets mature. And the profit from interest payments on those assets is sent to the treasury.

You don't understand the basics of what you are talking about.
  • #3,277
  • Apr 18, 2017 2:19pm Apr 18, 2017 2:19pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} There are 400 billion stars in our own galaxy, the Milky Way, and each of these will have a number of exoplanets. There are estimated 2 trillion galaxies in our universe, which is expanding at the speed of light. Is it not probable that some exoplanets could fall within the Goldilocks zone? Look up Drake's equation. Where do you think DNA came from? If DNA was found on a meteorite, what would you conclude from that? It is all relevant. It's a gauge to ascertain how open minded you are.
Whilst sitting in front of the box a few years ago some documentary was expounding the theory of life according to various 'know-it-all's. The most laughed-at guy was simply stating that all the forms of life are here because there is life on earth. After a bit of thought it is obvious. Once you have life that mutates periodically into something else which is either better suited to its environment, or totally dead within minutes, it evolves and dominates its environment. All the higher forms of life only exist because the lower forms of life are there. We humans hijacked some bacteria to do our food processing, otherwise we would not have a sustainable respiratory system. All the stuff we and other animals eat feeds off other smaller microbes, without those smaller microbes there would be no higher life forms.

Anyway ... DNA and RNA ... all very interesting; but the real teaser is this ... where did that nifty little replication mechanism come from that allows cells to reproduce. Without that DNA is just another smear on the wall.


Quoting Ross88
{quote} if we are taking about Alien life am in the crackpot section Alien's are real the odds of probability are just too high i hope we see some in my life time
No you don't want to do that ... unless you go there to see them. When SETI started blasting radio signals into the ether I had a weird feeling that something was not right. Then it hit me, what if they came here to see us. As in that film starring Liam Neeson and others, when Marco Polo or Christopher Columbus (or whoever) went and found the new world look what happened ... everybody living there was pretty much eradicated. In the film a bunch of aliens with vastly superior technology arrive chez nous and proceeded to wreak havoc.

Hence....
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #3,278
  • Apr 18, 2017 2:20pm Apr 18, 2017 2:20pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} I'm doing well Hun. Been trucking around the good ole USA for some time. Here's a few places I've been in 2017 ... lol {image}
..... so you've been to area-51 ! ?
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #3,279
  • Edited 3:35pm Apr 18, 2017 3:24pm | Edited 3:35pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} ..... so you've been to area-51 ! ?
yes but after the probing i will not be going back in a hurry

Quoting Exodus
{quote} No you don't want to do that ... unless you go there to see them. When SETI started blasting radio signals into the ether I had a weird feeling that something was not right. Then it hit me, what if they came here to see us. As in that film starring Liam Neeson and others, when Marco Polo or Christopher Columbus (or whoever) went and found the new world look what happened ... everybody living there was pretty much eradicated. In the film a bunch of aliens with vastly superior technology arrive chez nous and proceeded to wreak havoc. Hence....
i was thinking more like finding a planet like Madagascar or Australia in terms of new animal life not little green men anyway if we did accidentally summon little green men odds are we wound be ten a penny to them if we find a new group of Neanderthals on Earth at first it would be interesting but they wound have nothing for us to rob and it wound be pointless to just kill them for fun so i think we are safe form invasion as i presume we are not that interesting and space will have endless resources
  • #3,280
  • Apr 18, 2017 3:34pm Apr 18, 2017 3:34pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} ..... so you've been to area-51 ! ?
Many times. Official member and everything ...
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