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  • #149,741
  • Apr 13, 2017 12:40pm Apr 13, 2017 12:40pm
The textbook of a 'dick' (pun intended) swing contest showing off idiot. As expected since day one bullying agresssion, populism, nationalism....

As much as markets love and seem blind by greed most of the time. They won't hold for much longer. The US is shooting itself (and wanting o drag the world with it) in the foot....

It was made for the masses and headlines (and that final extra push much needed by the secretary of the state company ...I mean Oil) but markets are already heavy loaded on risk off.

It's becoming a no brainer what is going to happen and we are entering in not if but when....

For now thin markets and global holidays the perfect place to create noise and confusion...

sisse
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  • #149,742
  • Apr 13, 2017 1:28pm Apr 13, 2017 1:28pm
Top 1,087X

Flip 1,058

Bottom 1,034X
Wise decisions are based on lies we living..
  • #149,743
  • Apr 13, 2017 1:41pm Apr 13, 2017 1:41pm
Closing question at the top of the hour. Anybody else want to jump in with the map ?...

sisse
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  • #149,744
  • Apr 13, 2017 1:49pm Apr 13, 2017 1:49pm
Quoting sisse
Closing question at the top of the hour. Anybody else want to jump in with the map ?... sisse
i will join with
1.086| 1.061 | 1.042
  • #149,745
  • Apr 13, 2017 2:14pm Apr 13, 2017 2:14pm
1.090X, 1.063X, 1.034X
  • #149,746
  • Apr 13, 2017 2:18pm Apr 13, 2017 2:18pm
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  • #149,747
  • Edited 3:16pm Apr 13, 2017 3:04pm | Edited 3:16pm
Quoting sisse
Eu....> Short Term we have a close call this time between Sell and Neutral but Sell won at the end. => Mid Term we have a clear a Sell direction. Q3: Whats the short term map ? Just simple call: Top: xxxx | Flip: xxxxx | Bottom: xxxxx sisse
Thank you all...

+++ Opening final live iteration in the Euro ++++

""Parité, Consolidé ou Terminé""


Here is what we got so far:

=> Mid term outlook: Sell
=> Short term outlook: Sell.

Result for Q3:

=> Top Overwhelming consensus on the top @ 1.086x so will take that (although I strongly disagree with all you guys... )
=> Bottom most values are around the 1.050x area with out of the distribution to 1.038x and as high 1.058x . A proper realistic distinction so will take the mean around bottom @ 1.046x as value (again I can see why those areas but strongly disagree ...here we may have some ???)
=> Flip we have a good distribution too around 1.058x with a max range as high 1.073x ...Will settle the flip on 1.062x which coincidentally we are park right now (I also disagree with the level ...first time I am way off all your marks ...)

I will obviously give my view but I will do it at the end to not bias the decision. Now for the actual call:

Q4: Pick your poison:

=> Long @1.062x
STP: 1.052x
TP1: 1.078x
TP2: 1.086x (top target)
TP3: 1.095x
+/-max r:r: 1:5

=> Short @1.062x
STP 1.072x
TP1 1.046x (bottom target)
TP2 1.028x
TP3 1.019x
+/-max r:r: 1:5

=> Neutral No Touch 1.082x or 1.042 until French elections are over
+/-max r:r: 1:5 1:2 (edited here ...my bad if you want to change the decision)

sisse
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  • #149,748
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:05pm Apr 13, 2017 3:05pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Thank you all... +++ Opening final live iteration in the Euro ++++ "Parit, Consolid ou Termin" Here is what we got so far: => Mid term outlook: Sell => Short term outlook: Sell. Result for Q3: => Top Overwhelming consensus on the top @ 1.086x so will take that (although I strongly disagree with all you guys... ) => Bottom most values are around the 1.050x area with out of the distribution to 1.038x and as high 1.058x . A proper realistic distinction so will take the mean around bottom @ 1.046x as value (again I can see why those areas but...
neutral, no touch. we are entering a tweet/poll zone until we clear the elections
  • #149,749
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:08pm Apr 13, 2017 3:08pm
> Neutral No Touch 1.082x or 1.042 until French elections are over
+/-max r:r: 1:5
  • #149,750
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:11pm Apr 13, 2017 3:11pm
> Neutral No Touch 1.082x or 1.042 until French elections are over
Get Rich or Die Tryin
  • #149,751
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:11pm Apr 13, 2017 3:11pm
Im neutral
  • #149,752
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:12pm Apr 13, 2017 3:12pm
just in case I edited the neutral r:r to 1:2 instead of 1:5 to match a realistic options pricing. To the prev poster feel free to change your decision if you think its relevant..

sisse
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  • #149,753
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:14pm Apr 13, 2017 3:14pm
I think it should be obvious to go short in this scenario (short & mid Outlooks are sell?!). Unless we are wrong in the outlooks!
Short for me!
Media will make French election hot for business purpose.
  • #149,754
  • Edited 4:20pm Apr 13, 2017 3:19pm | Edited 4:20pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} ... Result for Q3: => Top Overwhelming consensus on the top @ 1.086x so will take that (although I strongly disagree with all you guys... ) => Bottom most values are around the 1.050x area with out of the distribution to 1.038x and as high 1.058x . A proper realistic distinction so will take the mean around bottom @ 1.046x as value (again I can see why those areas but strongly disagree...

+++ Opening final live iteration in the Euro ++++

"Parité, Consolidé ou Terminé"


=> Long @1.062x STP: 1.052x TP1: 1.078x TP2: 1.086x (top target) TP3: 1.095x +/-max r:r: 1:5

=> Short @1.062x STP 1.072x TP1 1.046x (bottom target) TP2 1.028x TP3 1.019x +/-max r:r: 1:5

Fadhl

=> Neutral No Touch 1.082x or 1.042 until French elections are over +/-max r:r:1:2

pmmebids

goosebone

hoom

Grinsakh


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  • #149,755
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:19pm Apr 13, 2017 3:19pm
short, ill take..
Wise decisions are based on lies we living..
  • #149,756
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:20pm Apr 13, 2017 3:20pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} I love the map, nice colors too. My TP 2 is at your dotted line (1.0520), wont be playing this zone (flip) for a momentum trade....however if this flip is broken/retested/held I'll add another short. Momentum plays for me will be at your dotted line or the ST bottom If you go by the old mofu we did on the Trump spike, we've bounced from the 50% aiming for parity
Same plan as before here (in conversation with goose)- I trailed my stops after Trump but we've surmounted that hurdle. 1.067x couldn't get a break and got rejected, so continuing on as planned here.....

As for where I'd go with the iteration? I'll go inline with my current trades that are luckly much higher than the iteration. so add me in short with Fadhl
  • #149,757
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:20pm Apr 13, 2017 3:20pm
Neutral for me.
  • #149,758
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:22pm Apr 13, 2017 3:22pm
Neutral
  • #149,759
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:25pm Apr 13, 2017 3:25pm
I'm in long.
  • #149,760
  • Apr 13, 2017 3:29pm Apr 13, 2017 3:29pm
Wont be too shocked to see attempts at both sides of the neutral range as election expectations pop around. Was a tough call neutral or short for me. Guess the 720 stop on the short is what pushed me over the fence personally.
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