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  • #3,001
  • Mar 26, 2017 3:26pm Mar 26, 2017 3:26pm
Quoting Ross88
{quote} i did not read the name calling (everyone i do not agree with is just a troll) but his post's on the eur/usd i would read when he post's them which he has not done so much of lately because someone is pro EU to the extreme dose not mean i dislike them i often find people with entrenched views funny i think his from the old Eastern Bloc and people from there seem to have the opinion that the EU not to bad it's just a little undemocratic {quote} Q,Ross who is doing the censoring, google etc ? no it's the advertisers from before the videos...
I have no idea about his trading views but he and others jump to ignore if it's not what they want to hear. I actually don't give a shit in all honesty.
The excuse is advertisers don't want be associated with certain channels because of extremism and of course Google, Youtube etc are happy to oblige by censoring content by age etc, it's political, it's control they need to restore it just like newspapers, it has to be run by the editor, the editor is under the spell of the owner, pretty sure there is one or 2 steps above that too but you know what I'm driving at. They can control mainstream media easily but some guy on the net spouting his mouth off they have no control. Label his ranting as extremism and hey presto, you gain control again. I don't think the PTB ever envisaged how powerful the internet would become. I have quite a collection of text books which I value, of course all the info is on the net now but what happens if it ever gets turned off ? I think certain age groups would go into melt down if that ever happened. I advise to at least keep a copy of any material of personal value on a hard drive which is offline, learning resources for your kids, trade skills, encyclopedic type stuff etc , ya never know !
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  • #3,002
  • Mar 27, 2017 2:25am Mar 27, 2017 2:25am
Quoting Stu Effex
.... I don't think the PTB ever envisaged how powerful the internet would become. I have quite a collection of text books which I value, of course all the info is on the net now but what happens if it ever gets turned off ? I think certain age groups would go into melt down if that ever happened. I advise to at least keep a copy of any material of personal value on a hard drive which is offline, learning resources for your kids, trade skills, encyclopedic type stuff etc , ya never know !
A valid concern. If it was 'switched off' all our trading resources would similarly disappear.
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  • #3,003
  • Mar 27, 2017 3:41am Mar 27, 2017 3:41am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} A valid concern. If it was 'switched off' all our trading resources would similarly disappear.
Yes. Well you only have to look at what's happening to see they are looking to repeat some history. A dark ages reset perhaps ,for the lesser mortals anyway ?
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  • #3,004
  • Mar 27, 2017 6:20am Mar 27, 2017 6:20am
Ross took me some time to dig this out, it's few years old now but this Lady done a lot of work based on immigration concerns etc but no criminal history. So UK would not allow her in but at the very same time they were/are flooding with unvetted mongrels. If this does not highlight how deliberate this cultural dilution is , I don't know what is. Again clear example of CONTROL, we not letting you in because we don't want to hear what you have to say but we can have gangs of mongrels parading the streets saying kill the infidels and extreme preaching while the police stand by and watch and protect their right to do that. This whole plan is bigger than government in my opinion.

https://youtu.be/cAMdETecIjo
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  • #3,005
  • Mar 27, 2017 9:15am Mar 27, 2017 9:15am
For Ross. You asked about gold. I think it will be up for now.
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  • #3,006
  • Mar 27, 2017 11:06am Mar 27, 2017 11:06am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Yes. Well you only have to look at what's happening to see they are looking to repeat some history. A dark ages reset perhaps ,for the lesser mortals anyway ?
It is a horrifying thought, yes?
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  • #3,007
  • Mar 27, 2017 11:28am Mar 27, 2017 11:28am
Quoting Stu Effex
Ross took me some time to dig this out, it's few years old now but this Lady done a lot of work based on immigration concerns etc but no criminal history. ...
That is an interesting view that they, the USA, have about us.
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  • #3,008
  • Mar 27, 2017 2:31pm Mar 27, 2017 2:31pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} It is a horrifying thought, yes?
It is but it is starting to look like a plan in my view. I'm not smart enough to have it mapped out but all the moves have been deliberate. Successive governments could have called time on it and they haven't. They can barely discuss the facts never mind take action, more appeasement until the head gasket blows and it will. I suppose can only hope that the military fall out and abandon any orders to sort the "Rebels" out. What's your thoughts EX ?
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  • #3,009
  • Mar 28, 2017 2:28am Mar 28, 2017 2:28am
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  • #3,010
  • Edited 3:28am Mar 28, 2017 2:51am | Edited 3:28am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} It is but it is starting to look like a plan in my view. I'm not smart enough to have it mapped out but all the moves have been deliberate. Successive governments could have called time on it and they haven't. They can barely discuss the facts never mind take action, more appeasement until the head gasket blows and it will. I suppose can only hope that the military fall out and abandon any orders to sort the "Rebels" out. What's your thoughts EX ?
Well, Stu

Let us first consider the onset of the Dark Ages. My recollection is that it was the result of the collapse of the Roman Empire followed by the rise of some prescriptive control. A whole movement based upon some kind of religion, probably Catholic, where people could be classified as witches, for instance, and the main crime was disagreeing with the Church. Some influential people grasped the essence of the situation and manipulated it to best effect. Everything revolved around the Earth, which was flat, and anybody attempting to introduce evidence to the contrary became a 'disparu' or a heretic (and hence a disparu of known residence).

AFAIK the Dark Ages affected only the known developed world at the time being, namely Europe.
edit: I believe Attila the Hun was around at that time too....

Fast forward ~1500 years. Scientific knowledge has given reasons behind almost all the phenomena otherwise attributable to God. Technology has extended the boundaries of the known world to include the whole planet. Yet we are faced with a similar situation where the believers are pursuing the unbelievers. Maybe the only casualties will be certain types of lifestyle. However the influence spreading across the globe, and which has no single driving control centre, is committed to the subversion of some types of individual. Further, the influence is not homogeneous and has factions that disagree with each other. That is an interesting facet.

My conclusion therefore is that these changes happen on a cyclic basis with a wavelength measured in millennia, at least longer than a century or two. An aspect of this process is that history is rewritten by the entity in control at any time and that therefore mankind is doomed to never escape this kind of cyclic phenomenon. The end result will be the extinction of the technologically developed world at the hands of the cleverly manipulated, under-educated and exploited masses, as it was under the last Dark Ages. A situation likely to continue for around 500 years after total assimilation has been effected.

This behaviour is tribe-like. All those in the tribe believe that everybody not in the tribe is an enemy (which was the case a few thousand years ago) and therefore a similar method of thought can evolve based upon a tribal theme.

There is a different cloud on the horizon. The possibility that technology can succeed in creating a new tribe. The few in control of machines and computers, or other technology, which could arise and remove all those who are not 'in the tribe'. The scenario as depicted by some films such as The Matrix or The Terminator (the original first-films, not the extension of imagination from the sequels thereto). The Law of Unintended Consequences dictates that something will probably happen and that no-one will have predicted the method of creation nor the final form of the creation, only that 'I told you so' will say that it was bound to happen.
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  • #3,011
  • Edited 5:17am Mar 28, 2017 3:26am | Edited 5:17am
Quoting Stu Effex
....
The thing which Faith Goldy has that could be usefully adopted by some others is the ability to articulate her point without recourse to bad language.
edit: ___without___
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  • #3,012
  • Mar 28, 2017 3:43am Mar 28, 2017 3:43am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Well, Stu Let us first consider the onset of the Dark Ages. My recollection is that it was the result of the collapse of the Roman Empire followed by the rise of some prescriptive control. Consequences dictates that something will probably happen and that no-one will have predicted the method of creation nor the final form of the creation, only that 'I told you so' will say that it was bound to happen.
You went to great lengths there EX , cheers. My reference to dark ages was just that, Tribes clubbing each other to death etc and this is no accident, it's engineered, we certainly don't want it but at some point it will just be about survival and the basic instincts of survival, we all have them though they are rarely tested.

What is behind the thinking I have no idea, is it all about proving only certain blood lines have a supreme right to inhabit the world.
The masses club each other to death and leave the space for Artificial Intelligence ?
Of course conjecture on my part but my gut says there is more to this whatever it may be.
It all just feels like screaming at the frog not to get into the pan of water but he has headphones on listening to Bob Marley singing "Three Little Birds"
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  • #3,013
  • Mar 28, 2017 3:54am Mar 28, 2017 3:54am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} You went to great lengths there EX , cheers. My reference to dark ages was just that, Tribes clubbing each other to death etc and this is no accident, it's engineered, we certainly don't want it but at some point it will just be about survival and the basic instincts of survival, we all have them though they are rarely tested. What is behind the thinking I have no idea, is it all about proving only certain blood lines have a supreme right to inhabit the world. The masses club each other to death and leave the space for Artificial Intelligence...
There is a window of about 100 hundred years during which the unintended effects of technology have a chance to erupt. After that the window will close. Where's my headphones.....

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  • #3,014
  • Mar 28, 2017 3:58am Mar 28, 2017 3:58am
I was about to erupt into scathing anti-establishment rhetoric when I saw this (http://uk.businessinsider.com/tesco-settles-fca-sfo-dpa-2014-accounting-scandal-2017-3), but after a little reading I discovered that the main miscreants are probably going to jail (http://uk.businessinsider.com/sfo-charges-former-tesco-executives-over-fraud-investigation-2016-9). So that is good, but if they should manage to cop some plea reducing their responsibility, or something, I shall be straight on the pen to my MP.
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  • #3,015
  • Mar 28, 2017 4:02am Mar 28, 2017 4:02am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} The thing which Faith Goldy has that could be usefully adopted by some others is the ability to articulate her point with recourse to bad language.
I hear you and in most cases it is unnecessary but emotions run high and out it comes. I don't personally get offended by it. There are a lot more offensive things happening which give me cause for concern but agree that the argument is quickly brushed aside when expletives used and the user is automatically assessed as an idiot so it doesn't help the case but sometimes it just feels good to say F.U.
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  • #3,016
  • Mar 28, 2017 4:08am Mar 28, 2017 4:08am
Quoting Exodus
I was about to erupt into scathing anti-establishment rhetoric when I saw this (http://uk.businessinsider.com/tesco-settles-fca-sfo-dpa-2014-accounting-scandal-2017-3), but after a little reading I discovered that the main miscreants are probably going to jail (http://uk.businessinsider.com/sfo-charges-former-tesco-executives-over-fraud-investigation-2016-9). So that is good, but if they should manage to cop some plea reducing their responsibility, or something, I shall be straight on the pen to my MP.
I will wager they never experience prison porridge. I read a case a while ago which outraged me similar. Will need to feed the grey matter to recall. But it was along the lines of we got caught so we will pay some dough and all will be well and it flies more often than not.
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  • #3,017
  • Mar 28, 2017 7:11am Mar 28, 2017 7:11am
Quoting Stu Effex
Ross took me some time to dig this out, it's few years old now but this Lady done a lot of work based on immigration concerns etc but no criminal history. So UK would not allow her in but at the very same time they were/are flooding with unvetted mongrels. If this does not highlight how deliberate this cultural dilution is , I don't know what is. Again clear example of CONTROL, we not letting you in because we don't want to hear what you have to say but we can have gangs of mongrels parading the streets saying kill the infidels and extreme preaching...
Who or by what process are folks like this banned from entering England?
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  • #3,018
  • Edited 7:36am Mar 28, 2017 7:14am | Edited 7:36am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} It is but it is starting to look like a plan in my view. I'm not smart enough to have it mapped out but all the moves have been deliberate. Successive governments could have called time on it and they haven't. They can barely discuss the facts never mind take action, more appeasement until the head gasket blows and it will. I suppose can only hope that the military fall out and abandon any orders to sort the "Rebels" out. What's your thoughts EX ?
That's the problem, mate. You and I and folks likes are smart enough to figure it out. Why you have Trump and maybe Marine.

I want to like May, but frankly don't have a handle on where she's really coming from.
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  • #3,019
  • Edited 8:42am Mar 28, 2017 8:07am | Edited 8:42am
Quoting jarhead
{quote} Who or by what process are folks like this banned from entering England?
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I assume they can override at any time and for any reason. Probably apply something under hate speech laws, think they did the same with Gert Wilders but hey Muslim hate preachers welcome, because we would not want to offend them would we. They may have tightened a touch on this point now but at the time of her refusal we letting all kinds of mongrels wander in.
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  • #3,020
  • Mar 28, 2017 8:08am Mar 28, 2017 8:08am
Quoting jarhead
{quote} That's the problem, mate. You and I and folks likes are smart enough to figure it out. Why you have Trump and maybe Marine. I want to like May, but frankly don't have a handle on where she's really coming from.
I personally think she is a Hares & Hounds kind of Gal and not keen on her.
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