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  • #8,641
  • Mar 18, 2017 11:42am Mar 18, 2017 11:42am
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} I have never used the converter on any chart accept the H1. So I have no idea if it will mess up anything on the Daily. Maybe someone else can help you with that question.
Ok. I'll try to figure it out
Dreamer
  • #8,642
  • Mar 18, 2017 12:18pm Mar 18, 2017 12:18pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} Thanks for reply! I have one more question. It seems I can only set up daily chart for tester using period converter. Will it be alright?
What worked for me was using the mt4 simulator pro as an expert in the strategy tester. How I did it was I loaded a 1 hour chart as the starting chart. Then loaded the chart with paradox h1 template. Then open your offline h2 and add paradox h2 template. One more step is add another period converter to the 1 hour and make to the multiplier value of 24. Then open an offline Daily chart. Then when you hit start you H1, H2, and Daily will be running and you can change the speed. Just remember it's not exactly like real market. Since your going off the 1 hour for the Daily there is not much history and the PSAR and ROMAR require a certain length of history before they start coming into view properly so use your discretion. Can be very helpful tho.
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  • #8,643
  • Mar 18, 2017 12:43pm Mar 18, 2017 12:43pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} What worked for me was using the mt4 simulator pro as an expert in the strategy tester. How I did it was I loaded a 1 hour chart as the starting chart. Then loaded the chart with paradox h1 template. Then open your offline h2 and add paradox h2 template. One more step is add another period converter to the 1 hour and make to the multiplier value of 24. Then open an offline Daily chart. Then when you hit start you H1, H2, and Daily will be running and you can change the speed. Just remember it's not exactly like real market. Since your going...
Thanks for the method. Will try it now.
Dreamer
  • #8,644
  • Mar 18, 2017 1:02pm Mar 18, 2017 1:02pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} Thanks for the method. Will try it now.
If you run into problems just ask. It can be a little tricky getting it to run right.
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  • #8,645
  • Mar 18, 2017 1:57pm Mar 18, 2017 1:57pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} If you run into problems just ask. It can be a little tricky getting it to run right.
Is your daily frozen? Because mine is I'll try different period converter
Dreamer
  • #8,646
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:05pm Mar 18, 2017 2:05pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} Is your daily frozen? Because mine is I'll try different period converter
Make sure you choose the right offline for h2 and daily. There are usually a couple to choose from. It's not the period converter. Experiment until it runs with the h1. And choose dates no more than 2 months back. If your having freezing issues slow it down and/or load all your templates and charts with the sim on pause before starting it.
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  • #8,647
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:08pm Mar 18, 2017 2:08pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} Make sure you choose the right offline for h2 and daily. There are usually a couple to choose from. It's not the period converter. Experiment until it runs with the h1. And choose dates no more than 2 months back. If your having freezing issues slow it down and/or load all your templates and charts with the sim on pause before starting it.
I actually have only one offline daily. It's not frozen because of performance as 1h and 2h are moving and daily is just stuck at the opening price...
Dreamer
  • #8,648
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:12pm Mar 18, 2017 2:12pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} I actually have only one offline daily. It's not frozen because of performance as 1h and 2h are moving and daily is just stuck at the opening price...
And you have a second period converter on the h1 with multiplier value changed to 24 correct?
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  • #8,649
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:14pm Mar 18, 2017 2:14pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} And you have a second period converter on the h1 with multiplier value changed to 24 correct?
Yes
Dreamer
  • #8,650
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:15pm Mar 18, 2017 2:15pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} And you have a second period converter on the h1 with multiplier value changed to 24 correct?
So yours offline daily is moving?
Dreamer
  • #8,651
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:34pm Mar 18, 2017 2:34pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} So yours offline daily is moving?
Yes. Notice how the daily psar has just come down into view on the daily. This is what I was talking about with the historical data. No more than a few months back because of this. They are all running. Play around and you will get it.
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  • #8,652
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:40pm Mar 18, 2017 2:40pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} Yes. Notice how the daily psar has just come down into view on the daily. This is what I was talking about with the historical data. No more than a few months back because of this. They are all running. Play around and you will get it. {file}
Ok I'll try more. At least refresh button works
Dreamer
  • #8,653
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:44pm Mar 18, 2017 2:44pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} Yes. Notice how the daily psar has just come down into view on the daily. This is what I was talking about with the historical data. No more than a few months back because of this. They are all running. Play around and you will get it. {file}
Yeah Psars are different from normal chart. I guess data is not correct after all?
Dreamer
  • #8,654
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:47pm Mar 18, 2017 2:47pm
And please if you do study this way on the weekend remember that there is no shortcut and to use it properly in learning the scenarios and don't run it too fast. I am not the expert here and if Dana discourages against it then you must listen to his advice. I do not want to mislead anyone.
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  • #8,655
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:49pm Mar 18, 2017 2:49pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} Yeah Psars are different from normal chart. I guess data is not correct after all?
Nope, it's not perfect. Studying the real market is best. Don't rely on it.
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  • #8,656
  • Mar 18, 2017 2:55pm Mar 18, 2017 2:55pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} Nope, it's not perfect. Studying the real market is best. Don't rely on it.
I won't. I see 1h and 2h are fine, but daily is screwed. I'll trade normal charts.
Dreamer
  • #8,657
  • Mar 18, 2017 3:38pm Mar 18, 2017 3:38pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} I won't. I see 1h and 2h are fine, but daily is screwed. I'll trade normal charts.
As far as your Daily being frozen, you must have used another simulator or tester with the Daily chart and that added a file that is conflicting with the mt4 sim pro. Find that file under open data/history/forex.com demo and if you see a file like !Sim1440 or anything else with Daily or 1440 names delete them. Hope that helps.
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  • #8,658
  • Mar 18, 2017 5:51pm Mar 18, 2017 5:51pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} I won't. I see 1h and 2h are fine, but daily is screwed. I'll trade normal charts.
Ok I decided to take a look at the Daily being off in the simulator and have found a way around it for anyone who is trying to be accurate with testing. Here is the solution.
First off if you have used the mt4 simulator pro close it out(not your mt4 platform) and go to your data file/history/forex.com demo file. Delete the eurjpypro1440.hst file. Next open a 1 hour chart of eurjpy. Once opened click the daily tab timeframe. Now your Daily data will be loaded correctly. You should have many years history. Close your mt4. Next step is download fxblue simulator(free but email required). After installed you have to check allow dll inputs under tools/options/expertadvisors. Next under expert properties go down to timeframes and click the offline_D1 and under the VALUE and START tabs change those to true. Next load the 1 hour eurjpy on the simulator with standard paradox H1 template with the period converter for the h2. Then open offline 2 hour and apply the paradox template. Next you open the the !Sim,Daily(offline) chart and that Dailly should now be accurate because it's using daily candles and not the converter. The reason why the Daily was off before was because of the period converter calculating 24 hours per candle and with forex.com there are 6 candles and first of the week I believe is only 2 hours long and that messed with the data. I still wouldn't go too far back with the data to be on the safe side and I believe you can now study accurately on the weekends(unless you run it too fast and take shortcuts). If of course Dove says it's ok. Here's a video of the correct charts running.
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  • #8,659
  • Mar 18, 2017 6:30pm Mar 18, 2017 6:30pm
Quoting Clip75
{quote} Ok I decided to take a look at the Daily being off in the simulator and have found a way around it for anyone who is trying to be accurate with testing. Here is the solution. First off if you have used the mt4 simulator pro close it out(not your mt4 platform) and go to your data file/history/forex.com demo file. Delete the eurjpypro1440.hst file. Next open a 1 hour chart of eurjpy. Once opened click the daily tab timeframe. Now your Daily data will be loaded correctly. You should have many years history. Close your mt4. Next step is download...
I believe deleting the 1440.hst file will screw up the data once live.
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  • #8,660
  • Mar 18, 2017 7:50pm Mar 18, 2017 7:50pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} I believe deleting the 1440.hst file will screw up the data once live.
You could be right. I believe that forex.com mt4 recreates that file as soon as deleted. I delete it to reset that file after applying the 24 period converter with the simulator. No need to do that with fxblue unless you've used a different sim that changed that file. You will know that file is changed if only like 50 bars are in the eurjpy daily history. When I delete that file and then reopen mt4 and open a daily chart it gets restored with many years history so I think it should be ok but I will post my live charts when market opens so that you can tell me if they are right. If you decide to try the simulator might be a good idea to wait for the go ahead from Dana. I don't wanna mislead others.
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