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  • #3,541
  • Mar 3, 2017 5:06am Mar 3, 2017 5:06am
Quoting johnluo
{quote} Never used this one！ {quote} I have not used live account for this since it's for idea testing of Master Genry! Pls remember, Curiosity kills people! Market like a tiger！ Anything you want to use live account, must test for more than 3 months and monitor it, then analyze the trend and modify the thing, then after 2 months testing, you can increase the deposit more than the original deposit to use. Above all, only my experience to share! Thanks John
The only things that kills people ("people accounts") are
- overleverage
- swiss national bank in jan 2015

So I was just curious which versions of QLT_Stoch4cmtf and associated indys you were using in your myfxbook test, because the one I d/led seems not to be working - i might have got a beta version from the russian forum (hard to read even with ggl translate). If you have 5 minutes to post the package (ea+indy) that would be lovely Else I'll go back and play with the tiger

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  • #3,542
  • Edited 5:13pm Mar 3, 2017 9:23am | Edited 5:13pm
Quoting corsican
{quote} The only things that kills people ("people accounts") are - overleverage - swiss national bank in jan 2015 So I was just curious which versions of QLT_Stoch4cmtf and associated indys you were using in your myfxbook test, because the one I d/led seems not to be working - i might have got a beta version from the russian forum (hard to read even with ggl translate). If you have 5 minutes to post the package (ea+indy) that would be lovely Else I'll go back and play with the tiger {image}

All here: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...86#post9299486

How to use the EA: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...75#post9278075 (UPDATED fr 20170304)

This is English forum, pls read thru all posts, I think it's no hard to you!

Thanks
John
No Pain No Gain!
  • #3,543
  • Edited 1:24pm Mar 3, 2017 12:09pm | Edited 1:24pm
John, something on your list of tradable currency pairs no usdcad.

It is necessary to correct this gap. Set for Sta][is 13-9-20. Set for depo $ 1,000, but the starting lot 0.06 - can be reduced.
Optim from 01 feb 2016 - 18 nov 2016. Test from 01 dec 2015 to 04 mar 2017. Period m5, spread 20.
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File Type: txt usdcad_m5_v13920_#888_010216(011215)-201116(040317)_D1000$_825$=1043-218(DD225)103_exp_Genry.set.txt   10 KB | 289 downloads
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  • #3,544
  • Mar 3, 2017 2:54pm Mar 3, 2017 2:54pm
Whenever i try to execute all Staxis' EAs in the tester, it works null. It's always like there is nothing to happen while testing. My broker is XM and what broker fims do you guys use for testing to execute that EA?

I was using Serg33's EAs and now i want to try Staxis by this way.
  • #3,545
  • Mar 3, 2017 5:08pm Mar 3, 2017 5:08pm
Quoting Genry_05
John, something on your list of tradable currency pairs no usdcad. It is necessary to correct this gap. Set for Sta][is 13-9-20. Set for depo $ 1,000, but the starting lot 0.06 - can be reduced. Optim from 01 feb 2016 - 18 nov 2016. Test from 01 dec 2015 to 04 mar 2017. Period m5, spread 20. {image} {file} {image}
Thanks Dear Master Genry, will use my server to monitor it!

Last Dec, as I remembered I have tested a USDCAD with Stoch4cmtf for demo, but $500 ACCOUNT after 1 and half month blow up, then I closed the Demo!

Will try again use this set.

Thanks
John
No Pain No Gain!
  • #3,546
  • Mar 3, 2017 6:19pm Mar 3, 2017 6:19pm
Hello Genry

Thank you for your continued contribution.
Are you still developing your own EA?
What is your long term plan?

I'm happy with the Staxis version of the EA, it is very versatile and it can get out of difficult situations without too much pain.
I think this is the part we should all be focusing on because the draw down will come, it is only a matter of time.
So having the right settings for closing trades is very important.
Have a nice day
  • #3,547
  • Edited 1:59am Mar 4, 2017 1:35am | Edited 1:59am
Quoting billv
Hello Genry Thank you for your continued contribution. Are you still developing your own EA?
Good day, Bill!
My own EA - element technology for the development of EA [Staxis] and 80% of the indicators were added to the EA [Staxis] on this technology:
1. The first analysis of the DD situations;
2. The decisions selection ;
3. discussion of solutions and checking on trade manually;
4. The creation of a model to test automated trading - this is my EA;
5. The addition of a proven solution into the main adviser [Staxis].
It will be too hasty - add new indicators that do not pass inspection. So I created a small model of the solution and use it to obtain the statistics of success and failure.
When the decision is checked - it provides a basis for the expansion of adviser functions. These features are already very much and most traders are lost when they see a list of the EA parameters.
We must have a serious study to add new indicators into adviser. I did RSI4cmtf indicator in April - May last year. And added he was only now.

Quoting billv
What is your long term plan?
Enable reverse process - now remove the extra indicators from EA.
The main problem of Quantum-EA: the ability to lose the deposit in case of long-term trend. It is necessary to solve this problem.
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,548
  • Mar 4, 2017 2:12am Mar 4, 2017 2:12am
Quoting eyildirim90
Whenever i try to execute all Staxis' EAs in the tester, it works null. It's always like there is nothing to happen while testing. My broker is XM and what broker fims do you guys use for testing to execute that EA? I was using Serg33's EAs and now i want to try Staxis by this way.
Information from the FAQ (thanks Chau1985)

The Expert Advisor does not opens trades:
1) Do not use the default settings advisor;
2) Check the loaded history in the currency pair under test;
3) Check the Spread specified in the EA settings and spread your broker established for this currency pair.
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...04#post9342504

Use the settings EA parameter files that are posted on this forum. For each version of the EA and for each currency pair - specific settings.
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,549
  • Mar 4, 2017 3:55am Mar 4, 2017 3:55am
Quoting johnluo
{quote} Thanks Dear Master Genry, will use my server to monitor it! Last Dec, as I remembered I have tested a USDCAD with Stoch4cmtf for demo, but $500 ACCOUNT after 1 and half month blow up, then I closed the Demo! Will try again use this set. Thanks John
True set in the previous page, the result is better.
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...86#post9613386
You can experiment with them.
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,550
  • Mar 4, 2017 4:01am Mar 4, 2017 4:01am
Colleagues,
Set in the trailer for usdcad M5, spread 20, depo $ 1,000.
Optimization interval was from February 01, 2016 to November 18, 2016.
I tested from 1 December 2015 to today.

Try it, for the sake of interest, consistently run it with the M5 to D1.
Do not forget to update quotes for all timeframes for the period of the test.

What are the results?
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File Type: txt usdcad_m5_v13920_#3558exp_010216(011215)-201116(040317)_D1000$_-(-)-(-)_xx_Genry.set.txt   36 KB | 271 downloads
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,551
  • Edited 5:55am Mar 4, 2017 5:45am | Edited 5:55am
Quoting Genry_05
{quote} The main problem of Quantum-EA: the ability to lose the deposit in case of long-term trend. It is necessary to solve this problem.
Hi Genry

Thank you for the update.

Solving this problem is not possible, the extended trend will come so one day the account will most likely blow up.
So what can we do to save our account?
We avoid currency pairs which have very long trends.
This means that we can only trade a maximum of 3 or 4 pairs and they will also need to be carefully managed
because central bank announcements can create long trends

When we look through historical data we can see that all currency pairs will have long trending periods.
However, when we analyse the trends we often see that Central bank policy changes have triggered the large and extended trends and we know in advance when central banks will make announcements so by introducing a NO TRADING rule "During & After" BIG announcements we can avoid the majority of the dangerous periods.

This means that we will need a STOP button which will stop the EA from trading when there are important announcements.
I know that we can use the AUTOTRADING button in MT4 to stop the EA but this button stops all EA's on all charts and we don't want to do that. Each Quantum EA needs to have its own STOP button.

Finally, as you know, one day we will forget to stop the EA or the trend will come unexpectedly so we must have a manual recovery method where we can use our manual trading skills to get out of a bad situation.

For manual recovery we will also need to have BUY and SELL trading buttons , which will enable us to add trades to the basket (using the EA's internal lot calculation) and we will also need 2 more buttons (CLOSE BUY trades, CLOSE SELL trades) so we can close some or all of the open trades without having to wait for the EA to find an exit point.

Another important function would be to be able to trade in the direction of the trend.
The question is, which trend do we use? The daily? the 4H? the 1H?, and which trend filter do we use?
This is a very complex issue so I prefer to choose the trading direction manually

This means that we will need to add extern inputs in the EA settings
e.g Open BUY trades= True /False, Open SELL Trades= True /False

Of Course we can use the Quantum EA as is now, but in my opinion it cannot be traded in a live account unattended. Some manual management is needed so the above tools are essential. This is how I use my own EA.
Have a nice day
  • #3,552
  • Mar 4, 2017 6:08am Mar 4, 2017 6:08am
Bill, I completely agree with the course of your thoughts. In earlier versions of the EA so I also enjoyed the power button on \ off trade.
Now I do it much less often - on the critical trade news.
But some idea of how to counter long-term trend, I have.
But it is unlikely I will discuss them, most likely EA will do a test to check and see how they work.
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,553
  • Mar 4, 2017 7:39am Mar 4, 2017 7:39am
Quoting Genry_05
Colleagues, Set in the trailer for usdcad M5, spread 20, depo $ 1,000. Optimization interval was from February 01, 2016 to November 18, 2016. I tested from 1 December 2015 to today. Try it, for the sake of interest, consistently run it with the M5 to D1. Do not forget to update quotes for all timeframes for the period of the test. What are the results? {file}
Colleagues, managed to get the results when checking the set at different TF?
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,554
  • Mar 4, 2017 2:50pm Mar 4, 2017 2:50pm
Hi Genry

Ok try your trend filtering idea, I hope it works for you.

I have given up on putting even more filters in the EA because we are stopping it from taking trades and then it doesn't make enough money. This means that we will be tempted to add the EA to the more dangerous currency pairs
or we will increase our trading size and both these actions will put our account at risk.

Sorry for not participating in your USDCAD testing, I wasn't getting notifications of new posts,
The FF notifications were going in my spam folder.
Have a nice day
  • #3,555
  • Edited 4:44pm Mar 4, 2017 4:33pm | Edited 4:44pm
Hi Bill!

Some ideas I've outlined today at the Russian forum and posted indicators.
Now Staxis and Vassiliy their look.
For further filtration, I use pin bar on the same signal as the Quantum. If Staxis will make a new version of it will appear here soon.
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  • #3,556
  • Mar 4, 2017 5:10pm Mar 4, 2017 5:10pm
Quoting Genry_05
{quote} Information from the FAQ (thanks Chau1985) The Expert Advisor does not opens trades: 1) Do not use the default settings advisor; 2) Check the loaded history in the currency pair under test; 3) Check the Spread specified in the EA settings and spread your broker established for this currency pair. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...04#post9342504 Use the settings EA parameter files that are posted on this forum. For each version of the EA and for each currency pair - specific settings.

Hey Genry, thanks for the reply!

I actually had tried it before you told me about it. It doesn't work at all. Its like the tester is moving but no orders or trades while its moving. (I put the example picture below, its the same usdcad.set file you advised me about on the previous pages) This is why i asked about the broker you guys use for the testing. Also other EAs work in the tester.

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  • #3,557
  • Edited 7:30pm Mar 4, 2017 7:17pm | Edited 7:30pm
Quoting Genry_05
Colleagues, Set in the trailer for usdcad M5, spread 20, depo $ 1,000. Optimization interval was from February 01, 2016 to November 18, 2016. I tested from 1 December 2015 to today. Try it, for the sake of interest, consistently run it with the M5 to D1. Do not forget to update quotes for all timeframes for the period of the test. What are the results? {file}
Dear Genry,

It's a good result !~

From 20160201-20170305

M5
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M15
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Thanks
John
No Pain No Gain!
  • #3,558
  • Mar 5, 2017 1:45am Mar 5, 2017 1:45am
Well, John, you as always on top!
Basil also conducted a test with 99% of quotations of quality and got the same data.
Recent changes have significantly improved Advisor. This example shows that a set of parameters makes a profit
on different timeframe.
This is a good result.
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,559
  • Edited 2:16am Mar 5, 2017 1:58am | Edited 2:16am
Quoting eyildirim90
{quote} Hey Genry, thanks for the reply! I actually had tried it before you told me about it. It doesn't work at all. Its like the tester is moving but no orders or trades while its moving. (I put the example picture below, its the same usdcad.set file you advised me about on the previous pages) This is why i asked about the broker you guys use for the testing. Also other EAs work in the tester. {image}
As I was tired of this situation. On almost every page of the forum I write:
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...95#post9555495
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...96#post9580196
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...68#post9601868

{Quote}
I'm not a extrasensory! Already many times repeated:
" I have already referred to the list of data required for analysis of the situation:
a copy of the screen,
the version of the advisor,
file settings and
the log.
EA settings needed from the tester or real. Do not copy me the original file, and it is necessary to make save the settings with EA - is essential."
{END quote}

In response I get blah blah blah, and no specific data.

I wrote: "EA settings needed from the tester or real. Do not copy me the original file, and it is necessary
to make save the settings with EA - is essential."
Quoting eyildirim90
{quote} ... set file you advised me about on the previous pages
??????????
Quoting eyildirim90
{quote}...I put the example picture below,...
I do not see your set, and on the screenshot instead of spread values - read "Current".

I take the magic skull and arrange a session of clairvoyance?

Colleagues, sorry, you want the solution to your problems, or just flood the topic?
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
  • #3,560
  • Mar 5, 2017 3:16am Mar 5, 2017 3:16am
Dear genry
kindly read the pages of around 200 level pages... or entire book is good. in that new high after he made buy and buy again. with angle support he finds the top and sell all longs and start for sell... this is pyramid type ...
if it right means what is the average of trades.. if quantum forms at every low... we are buying and .. at high we are selling .. please explain
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