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  • #2,721
  • Feb 20, 2017 2:45pm Feb 20, 2017 2:45pm
Quoting Elios
{quote} Joe, how can I catch the rest of the price movement, without using the flip zone? Do you Know another way?
Flip zones are S&D. It's in the Set-and-Forget classwork. As long as it's part of your trading plan and rules.

"What defines a Flip zone? A flip zone is where price flips from acting as either support to resistance or vice versa, supply and demand zones tend to be at flip zones, some of them are ignored, others are respected.. We're trading supply and demand and not trading support and resistance, but when price reaches such a zone these flip areas can act as a key area for high probability trades." -The anatomy of a Flip Zone
  • #2,722
  • Feb 20, 2017 2:49pm Feb 20, 2017 2:49pm
Quoting Elios
{quote} Joe, how can I catch the rest of the price movement, without using the flip zone? Do you Know another way?
dont focus one price movent. we dont need to catch every price movement. try to follow AKTs rules! there is no better way only other ways...
  • #2,723
  • Feb 20, 2017 2:55pm Feb 20, 2017 2:55pm
Quoting addtoit-
{quote} Flip zones are S&D....
Ok addtoit, Thank you very much.
  • #2,724
  • Feb 20, 2017 2:56pm Feb 20, 2017 2:56pm
Quoting addtoit-
{quote} Flip zones are S&D. supply and demand zones tend to be at flip zones, some of them are ignored, others are respected
sry but LOL
  • #2,725
  • Feb 20, 2017 2:58pm Feb 20, 2017 2:58pm
Quoting JoeMcCool
{quote} dont focus one price movent. we dont need to catch every price movement. try to follow AKTs rules! there is no better way only other ways...
I am trying to follow the trend after a retracement. This is a high probability trade and I dont want to ignore it.
  • #2,726
  • Feb 20, 2017 4:42pm Feb 20, 2017 4:42pm
Quoting JoeMcCool
{quote} sry but LOL
What's so funny?
  • #2,727
  • Feb 20, 2017 5:05pm Feb 20, 2017 5:05pm
Quoting addtoit-
{quote} What's so funny?
I hope i did not exile someone. at least in this thread flip zones are not that good. there are rules take your time!

Quoting Elios
{quote} I am trying to follow the trend after a retracement. This is a high probability trade and I dont want to ignore it.
that seems like people always find a way to ignore an advice
  • #2,728
  • Feb 20, 2017 5:12pm Feb 20, 2017 5:12pm
Quoting JoeMcCool
{quote} I hope i did not exile someone. at least in this thread flip zones are not that good. there are rules take your time! {quote} that seems like people always find a way to ignore an advice
I'm sorry, I'm new here. But I was of the understanding that Michael (akt) studied with alfonso of set-and-forget.com and that was the methodology we were focused on mastering? Please help me understand how laughing at people creates a learning environment.
  • #2,729
  • Feb 20, 2017 5:23pm Feb 20, 2017 5:23pm
Quoting addtoit-
{quote} I'm sorry, I'm new here. But I was of the understanding that Michael (akt) studied with alfonso of set-and-forget.com and that was the methodology we were focused on mastering? Please help me understand how laughing at people creates a learning environment.
please excuse me! it was my mistake. i wasnt realy laughing and that is not what we do. Michael and Alfonso seem to teach the same theme but if you get deeper you will see a difference in in it. you probably havent read about flip zones here

greets
joe
  • #2,730
  • Feb 20, 2017 9:27pm Feb 20, 2017 9:27pm
Hello addtoit- & JoeMcCool.
Thank you both for a robust debate.
Joe, thank you for being big enough to accept your mistake as well and apologizing.
addtoit, i hope you are not too offended, sometimes, text makes it so hard to communicate clearly without running the risk of seeming flippant.

I hope you both move on from this and continue to share ideas here

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,731
  • Feb 20, 2017 9:57pm Feb 20, 2017 9:57pm
Quoting JoeMcCool
{quote} please excuse me! it was my mistake. i wasnt realy laughing and that is not what we do. Michael and Alfonso seem to teach the same theme but if you get deeper you will see a difference in in it. you probably havent read about flip zones here greets joe
No worries. Thanks for clarifying.
  • #2,732
  • Feb 21, 2017 12:19am Feb 21, 2017 12:19am
Guys, I am not for or against flip zones. I dont Know this method and I am not able to understand the subtle differences between this thread and the set and forget thread. I am struggling to learn the new concepts and rules and I cannot find a post where these rules or definitions are written.
  • #2,733
  • Feb 21, 2017 8:07am Feb 21, 2017 8:07am
Quoting JoeMcCool
{quote} so far so good. try to focus on you sequence and after that is the bigger TF with you or not. Greets Joe {image}
I took this trade..broken momentum and location trade setup.
  • #2,734
  • Feb 21, 2017 11:47am Feb 21, 2017 11:47am
Hello guys, here is some potential EURUSD long set up. H4 fresh demand in daily in weekly demand zone.
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  • #2,735
  • Feb 21, 2017 2:43pm Feb 21, 2017 2:43pm
Is there anyone looking at these levels? AUDCAD getting high on the daily curve. Let me know if you're also interested in taking this.
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  • #2,736
  • Feb 21, 2017 10:07pm Feb 21, 2017 10:07pm
Hello Akt,

Could you please help me take my drawing? Anything wrong on my supply and demand zone configuration? How do I join your weekly webinar?

many thanks
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  • #2,737
  • Feb 22, 2017 12:30am Feb 22, 2017 12:30am
Quoting kelvinl
Hello Akt, Could you please help me take my drawing? Anything wrong on my supply and demand zone configuration? How do I join your weekly webinar? many thanks {image} {image} {image} {image}
Hello Kelvn & dalmeida

Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you.
Thought i would do a quick video to start to answer your questions
I will endeavour to do a longer more detailed talk at sunday's webinar

Welcome again.

best wishes
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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,738
  • Edited 4:39am Feb 22, 2017 2:05am | Edited 4:39am
Quoting Elios
{quote} Gbp/Jpy Update : I re-entered after the retracement into the flip zone. The second order is due to impatience. R :R =1:3 {image}
I stopped out in GPB/JPY and the problem is not the flip zone. The problem is that there is no ... downtrend. At post 2580 I did an analysis where I noticed that the price made consecutive supply zones. But this is half truth. As we can see in the chart the price makes, at the same time, consecutive demand zones. So we are into a big triangle ... and we have to wait.
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  • #2,739
  • Feb 22, 2017 2:25am Feb 22, 2017 2:25am
Quoting Elios
Conclusion : Shorting the EUR/GBP is a high probability trade because you will follow the Monthly, Weekly and Daily Downtrend. Short term target : The first daily DZ under the price Long term target : The price probably may reach the Demand zone where there is a strong imbalance. {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
First target reached.
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  • #2,740
  • Feb 22, 2017 3:03am Feb 22, 2017 3:03am
Quoting Elios
{quote} Target almost reached. A big thanks to this thread and Akt {image}
USD/JPY update : I re-entered after the retracement inside the SZ and the loss of upside momentum
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