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  • #2,001
  • Feb 8, 2017 12:02pm Feb 8, 2017 12:02pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I already said that I'm old enough to be Jen's dad .... I think...?
Like fine wine, better with age.
  • #2,002
  • Feb 8, 2017 12:16pm Feb 8, 2017 12:16pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Ah okay, so they do not have rape kits in the EU. So you are left with videos. I understand more clearly why we are the lone superpower in the world. Prove the crimes, and the persecute them. It is not rocket science. {quote} Another shining example of why your message goes nowhere. Is English your native language? {quote} Again, all you have to do is provide proof they are not refugees, Jen. Is that so hard? A government of Laws and not men--John Adams.
J Look there some rather large points you miss. Yes some will be prosecuted, some will go undetected but the issue really is about this is happening like it is routine everyday life. They really think this behaviour is quite normal and should be tolerated. Then we have police /government trying to cover it up because it is inline with their stupid open door policies and egg on the chin won't do. So from government perspective it is far easier to call out all such people like us here as racists etc and we all have to get along and all the usual bullshit. So in many respects we are pissing in the wind, the authorities don't have our backs in fact in many cases quite the opposite and will go to great lengths to secure a conviction against someone for hate crime if they place bacon on handle of mosque door but choose ignore a muslim screaming kill the infidels. You see ? No Parity ! Always apologising and appeasing. We have a Muslim Mayor of our capital city with very dubious associations he is obviously now in a position of power. How did he get there ? Probably the same way as Obama did ? Appeasement, looking for votes, to illustrate our rich multiculturalism and pushing further the global agenda at the expense of the indigenous people.
Then we have to look at who pays for all this mayhem ? Simple we do as most of them are receiving state benefits hand over fist ! It really is quite sickening.
Incidentally most of the so called "Refugees" carry no I.D. and with very limited English language apart from "Refugee", "Asylum", "Benefit" !!
You may not understand the ins and outs but I can assure you all the guys who are posting here do so, not to be awkward, or some perverse antagonistic display, it is out of a genuine concern for state of their country and hope that those who aren't enlightened become informed.

Just to add our evidence should not have to come from people sharing youtube videos and recounting personal experience it should come from government sources but................
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  • #2,003
  • Feb 8, 2017 12:18pm Feb 8, 2017 12:18pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I don't think Captain Kangaroo reached our shores .... I only remember Alan Alda from MASH
Yep me too. Think I would qualify for Jen's old man too.
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  • #2,004
  • Feb 8, 2017 12:36pm Feb 8, 2017 12:36pm
https://youtu.be/lyLUIXWnrC0
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  • #2,005
  • Feb 8, 2017 4:36pm Feb 8, 2017 4:36pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Again, all you have to do is provide proof they are not refugees, Jen. Is that so hard? A government of Laws and not men--John Adams.
They're in Calais desperately trying to break into UK bound lorries. Are they fleeing persecution in France? Then they are not refugees. It really isn't that hard to figure out, is it?

Where are their passports to show they are from a war zone? Many of them are African. Whoops sorry, all paperwork lost but they all have their smartphones. Really, you expect us to be that stupid?

£2000 fine for each illegal found for the carriers, whether it's the ferry operators or Eurotunnel or lorries. Why don't you get a boat and bring some over from Calais then tell the UK authorities that the onus is for them to prove these vermin are not refugees? Try it.

We have taken in genuine refugees: women, children and families from the camps in Syria. More than what your country is doing eh? And how much more space do you have? So don't give me shit that these parasites throwing missiles at my car and causing chaos need to get to the UK and need loads of money from us. You have them and you pay for them.
  • #2,006
  • Feb 8, 2017 4:42pm Feb 8, 2017 4:42pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Yep me too. Think I would qualify for Jen's old man too.
Clue: I'm a good advert for healthy living. I look younger than I am. About 3 years ago, I had an argument in Tesco because they refused to sell me alcohol.
  • #2,007
  • Feb 8, 2017 5:28pm Feb 8, 2017 5:28pm
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/europes-border-crisis/majority-leading-eu-nations-support-trump-style-travel-ban-poll-n718271
  • #2,008
  • Feb 8, 2017 7:35pm Feb 8, 2017 7:35pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} They're in Calais desperately trying to break into UK bound lorries. Are they fleeing persecution in France? Then they are not refugees. It really isn't that hard to figure out, is it? Where are their passports to show they are from a war zone? Many of them are African. Whoops sorry, all paperwork lost but they all have their smartphones. Really, you expect us to be that stupid? 2000 fine for each illegal found for the carriers, whether it's the ferry operators or Eurotunnel or lorries. Why don't you get a boat and bring some over from Calais...
Yes, you all have done much more than we have here. And we are the fourth largest nation on earth. Believe me it is a debate that goes on. We have our own issues with children crossing the border and waiting to be picked up by customs. They do not even try to run. Now I did say that people throwing things at vehicles should be put in prison camps if they do that kind of stuff. So essentially they are coming in to France, and France is pushing them into the UK, or trying to anyways. I can understand the resentment that would cause. I did not mean to sound judgmental, please accept my apology.

Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} J Look there some rather large points you miss. Yes some will be prosecuted, some will go undetected but the issue really is about this is happening like it is routine everyday life. They really think this behaviour is quite normal and should be tolerated. Then we have police /government trying to cover it up because it is inline with their stupid open door policies and egg on the chin won't do. So from government perspective it is far easier to call out all such people like us here as racists etc and we all have to get along and all the...
Stu, I have also noticed that most of us here are on the other side of fifty. It this a concern for the young people there? I would agree with your post entirely. I completely forgot that they mayor of London is Muslim. That bodes terribly, and I now clearly understand the concern. It makes not sense not to make them carry ID cards, you can be picked up for that here. We are often slammed for our gun laws and the fact that we have more people incarcerated per capita than the rest of the world by far. But we do not have people throwing shit at cars either. Maybe you guys could pull a page from our book and start locking these miscreants up!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #2,009
  • Feb 9, 2017 2:12am Feb 9, 2017 2:12am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Yes, you all have done much more than we have here. And we are the fourth largest nation on earth. Believe me it is a debate that goes on. We have our own issues with children crossing the border and waiting to be picked up by customs. They do not even try to run. Now I did say that people throwing things at vehicles should be put in prison camps if they do that kind of stuff. So essentially they are coming in to France, and France is pushing them into the UK, or trying to anyways. I can understand the resentment that would cause. I did...
I've always been anti gun but I'm starting to understand. We would lock them up but they're doing it on French soil.
  • #2,010
  • Feb 9, 2017 3:28am Feb 9, 2017 3:28am
Quoting Stu Effex
https://youtu.be/lyLUIXWnrC0
This guy (Infowars) has a very acute understanding of society, especially for one apparently so young. At 2:00 minutes that guy was so right.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #2,011
  • Feb 9, 2017 3:36am Feb 9, 2017 3:36am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Clue: I'm a good advert for healthy living. I look younger than I am. About 3 years ago, I had an argument in Tesco because they refused to sell me alcohol.
Excellent!

I believe some of it is just what you are born with. I smiled at the 3 prompts that come up on the cashier's display when alcohol passes through the channel: "under age" (or something like that), "young adult" (or something like that), and finally ... "obviously over 25"

When I'm feeling playful I say I'm in my late 40s.....
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #2,012
  • Feb 9, 2017 3:36am Feb 9, 2017 3:36am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} This guy (Infowars) has a very acute understanding of society, especially for one apparently so young. At 2:00 minutes that guy was so right.
Alex jones on the Joe Rogan Experience last week was the internet at it's best his is crazy and was off his head on whiskey and Mexican tobacco did anyone see it??
  • #2,013
  • Feb 9, 2017 3:42am Feb 9, 2017 3:42am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I've always been anti gun but I'm starting to understand. We would lock them up but they're doing it on French soil.
Let's just say I regret some of the things I said about the Brits after the Brexit vote. It seems as if you folks were backed into a corner. Sigh, I am going to have to come to grips with the corporate media. There really is such a thing.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #2,014
  • Feb 9, 2017 4:04am Feb 9, 2017 4:04am
Quoting jen101
{quote} They're in Calais desperately trying to break into UK bound lorries. Are they fleeing persecution in France? Then they are not refugees. It really isn't that hard to figure out, is it? Where are their passports to show they are from a war zone? Many of them are African. Whoops sorry, all paperwork lost but they all have their smartphones. Really, you expect us to be that stupid? 2000 fine for each illegal found for the carriers, whether it's the ferry operators or Eurotunnel or lorries. Why don't you get a boat and bring some over from Calais...
And as they passed through Italy or Spain or France or Austria or Germany, what have the authorities in these countries done to deport the illegals or even vet them? These scumbags don't just appear in Calais as if by magic
  • #2,015
  • Feb 9, 2017 4:06am Feb 9, 2017 4:06am
Quoting verv
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/europes-border-crisis/majority-leading-eu-nations-support-trump-style-travel-ban-poll-n718271
71 percent in Poland !! ...thought that migration should be restricted.

Don't you just love the grasp of public sentiment by the adminisphere. Chatham House called the findings "striking and sobering" and said in a news release (https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration#) that the figures "suggest that public opposition to further migration from predominantly Muslim states is by no means confined to Trump's electorate."

Whilst my views on this topic are probably well understood, I feel it necessary to remind readers of exactly what is happening. Our own governments interfered in the workings of other countries and caused a part of the current migration problem, maybe most of the problem. Then they stood aside and watched the events in Syria which have led to the rest of the problems. So let us not lose sight of the real causes here. I think Tony Blair should be made to spend his retirement living in Raqqa or Mosel.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #2,016
  • Feb 9, 2017 4:16am Feb 9, 2017 4:16am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} 71 percent in Poland !! ...thought that migration should be restricted. Don't you just love the grasp of public sentiment by the adminisphere. Chatham House called the findings "striking and sobering" and said in a news release (https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration#) that the figures "suggest that public opposition to further migration from predominantly Muslim states is by no means confined to Trump's electorate." Whilst my views on this topic are probably well understood,...
Here is a contrast between EU and the electorate

Geert Wilders - President Donald Trump's Travel Order & BREXIT Is Great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-OeAOMMM2M

Guy Verhofstadt, "The solution for EU is more intregration" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-nLErxGUxI&t=190s
  • #2,017
  • Feb 9, 2017 4:23am Feb 9, 2017 4:23am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Clue: I'm a good advert for healthy living. I look younger than I am. About 3 years ago, I had an argument in Tesco because they refused to sell me alcohol.
Ha ha my string vest gives the game away for me
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  • #2,018
  • Feb 9, 2017 4:34am Feb 9, 2017 4:34am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Yes, you all have done much more than we have here. And we are the fourth largest nation on earth. Believe me it is a debate that goes on. We have our own issues with children crossing the border and waiting to be picked up by customs. They do not even try to run. Now I did say that people throwing things at vehicles should be put in prison camps if they do that kind of stuff. So essentially they are coming in to France, and France is pushing them into the UK, or trying to anyways. I can understand the resentment that would cause. I did...
J, I think it is an issue for the younger generation who are affected by it but there are large swathes of tree hugging types who lierally can't see the wood for the trees. They are young and naive and believe their loyalties lie in looking out for every sick dog. When lots of dogs are cunning and will do anything to get that meaty treat. They have a lot to learn grasshopper !

I hear you about locking them up but that just costs us the taxpayers to keep them still. Better they not here in the first place and the place will run like a swiss clock.
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  • #2,019
  • Edited 12:42pm Feb 9, 2017 4:39am | Edited 12:42pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} J, I think it is an issue for the younger generation who are affected by it but there are large swathes of tree hugging types who lierally can't see the wood for the trees. They are young and naive and believe their loyalties lie in looking out for every sick dog. When lots of dogs are cunning and will do anything to get that meaty treat. They have a lot to learn grasshopper ! I hear you about locking them up but that just costs us the taxpayers to keep them still. Better they not here in the first place and the place will run like...
It is very easy for people to be high and moral with other people's money.

Many of these young people with high morals have never contributed a penny to charity, some have barely paid a penny in taxes - it's always the other guy paying for their ideals.

I have plenty of liberal friends with very high morals yet I'm the only guy who gives money to charity every month, does that make sense?

It is easier to sound like a person with high morals by shouting a lot and resorting to soundbites such as 'equality' but I actually went and set up a direct debit to a charity, they didn't, so I don't stand for any of their guff.
  • #2,020
  • Feb 9, 2017 4:47am Feb 9, 2017 4:47am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} 71 percent in Poland !! ...thought that migration should be restricted. Don't you just love the grasp of public sentiment by the adminisphere. Chatham House called the findings "striking and sobering" and said in a news release (https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/what-do-europeans-think-about-muslim-immigration#) that the figures "suggest that public opposition to further migration from predominantly Muslim states is by no means confined to Trump's electorate." Whilst my views on this topic are probably well understood,...
He is total rat. Needs to be in a whole hole on the beach with head sticking out and smeared in peanut butter and see how much he enjoys having all his rights pecked away. Year he became prime minister first MP sworn into parliament taking oath of allegiance on the koran. The writing was on the wall then, I remember seeing Tower Hamlets and knew this was coming.
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