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  • #2,441
  • Jan 30, 2017 8:10pm Jan 30, 2017 8:10pm
Quoting Akt
A big thank you to all of you who attended yesterday. Much appreciated. I hope it was useful for you all. I have sent replies to all of you who for some reason or another were not able to attend The recordings have also been sent out to everyone who registered. Have a great and profitable week. Best wishes
Hello Akt,

Unfortunatelly I cant't watch the webinar live, but if it is possible I would like to watch it in free time. How I can do it?
  • #2,442
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:07pm Jan 30, 2017 10:07pm
Quoting foxtrader16
EUR/JPY This trade is still live. I have taken some profits off the table. W1 - D1 - H4 W1 - Curve eurjpy_W1.png;2163444 D1 - Trend / Momentum eurjpy_D1.png;2163541 H4 - Entry EURJPY_4H.png;2163544 I seem to not able to draw the momentum line correctly. Michael and experienced others - Please let me know if I am getting the approach correct. {image} {image} {image}
Hello foxtrader16
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this pair
If i may, i presume you are short but what Supply zone did you enter at please?

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,443
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:09pm Jan 30, 2017 10:09pm
Quoting jolimoney
Hi again People. I have now tried to make, what i think, a decent suply zone of EUR/USD (Daily Time Frame). Is the lower line correct placed? Regards / JoLi {image}
Hello jolimoney
Well done. not bad for a first time try.

In addition to joemcc0ol's comments, again try to get the lower line as close to the origin of the drop as the chart allows

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,444
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:13pm Jan 30, 2017 10:13pm
Quoting wyncengblong
{quote} Hello Akt, Unfortunatelly I cant't watch the webinar live, but if it is possible I would like to watch it in free time. How I can do it?
Hello wyncengblong. Good to meet you
Welcome to T.I.O.F

As i have stated earlier in a previous entry, the recording is being sent to attendees only.
However, i understand it took place in the middle of the night in your part of the world so in such cases i suppose it is only fair to make an exception.

Please send me your email address.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,445
  • Jan 30, 2017 10:50pm Jan 30, 2017 10:50pm
Hello, AKT and Everyone

My name is Jim Price
Happy to be apart of your thread. I am a Supply and Demand Trader trading just Forex . I am an Online Trading Academy Student. Been working at this for around 2.5 years now.

AKT I reached out to you Via Email. Please Lmk if you have received. Thanks, Look forward to speaking with you when you get the chance. Also Look forward to contributing and being involved on your thread.

Power in number! I love it

Trade Safe,
  • #2,446
  • Edited 3:10am Jan 31, 2017 1:08am | Edited 3:10am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello wyncengblong. Good to meet you Welcome to T.I.O.F As i have stated earlier in a previous entry, the recording is being sent to attendees only. However, i understand it took place in the middle of the night in your part of the world so in such cases i suppose it is only fair to make an exception. Please send me your email address. best wishes
Sorry AKT, i do not know how to send you my email address. This is my email address: { email address deleted by staff }
For everyone who read this post please tell me how to PM or send email to AKT.
  • #2,447
  • Jan 31, 2017 2:54am Jan 31, 2017 2:54am
Hello everyone ! again a great thread AKT and look forward to posting my charts in a few days. I have two questions which for my purpose will help clarify your way of thinking in your model.
Q:1 You like to see a strong move into a zone whether it be Supply or demand zone rather than steps is this because of the strength of the buyer or seller showing intent . Also does this mean that it could be the last of the buyers or sellers taking out or coming into a zone and then moving in or out quickly in the opposite direction Why is this important ? just for my clarification

Q2. The change of a trend on the particular key time frame the you trade eg: daily or 4hour etc. My understanding is that a trendline break must be proceeded by a removal of two opposite zones to be a trend or other wise it is considered consolidation until the two zones are removed however the alternative is a trendline in the opposite direction between two pivot points for change of direction? I still feel like i'm missing something or am I correct ?
Again thank you for you precious time to answer these questions and i'm sure some one kind enough on the forum could answer them for me

We only have one life make the most of it
  • #2,448
  • Jan 31, 2017 6:41am Jan 31, 2017 6:41am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello foxtrader16 Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this pair If i may, i presume you are short but what Supply zone did you enter at please? best wishes
Hi Michael

Yes I was short on EURJPY. Closed all positions now.

I am inserting a picture with the SZ and where I entered trade.

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I am still struggling with identification of trend and momentum.
Please let me know if I identified the zones correctly. I am open to any comments.
Live life king size !
  • #2,449
  • Jan 31, 2017 11:02am Jan 31, 2017 11:02am
Quoting foxtrader16
{quote} Hi Michael Yes I was short on EURJPY. Closed all positions now. I am inserting a picture with the SZ and where I entered trade. eurjpy_H4.png;2164844 I am still struggling with identification of trend and momentum. Please let me know if I identified the zones correctly. I am open to any comments. {image}
Hello foxtrader16

I see what you did. I am glad your trade worked but i am afraid it is not a supply and demand trade.
The reason it isn't is because with S.A.D we trade pullbacks. Price is yet to trade back to those zones for entry so i am guessing you took breakdowns from them.

About the momentum lines, if you take a look on the youtube channel, there is a video there about trend lines and how to draw them

Inserted Video


best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,450
  • Jan 31, 2017 11:06am Jan 31, 2017 11:06am
Quoting jgk
Hello everyone ! again a great thread AKT and look forward to posting my charts in a few days. I have two questions which for my purpose will help clarify your way of thinking in your model. Q:1 You like to see a strong move into a zone whether it be Supply or demand zone rather than steps is this because of the strength of the buyer or seller showing intent . Also does this mean that it could be the last of the buyers or sellers taking out or coming into a zone and then moving in or out quickly in the opposite direction Why is this important ?...
Hello jgk

1. the move into a zone is preferred to be a strong one for the sake of profit margin. Stepwise arrival removes that because you have an opposing level close by in that instance

2. A trend line break at a big picture level is just that, the end of momentum. We don't use trend lines to define trend as you know. So until the definitions for trend are fulfilled, a momentum line break just signifies the end of momentum

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,451
  • Jan 31, 2017 12:22pm Jan 31, 2017 12:22pm
Hello everyone.

A little game.....Spot the Trend

play for the fun of it. thank you

Best wishes
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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,452
  • Jan 31, 2017 1:24pm Jan 31, 2017 1:24pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. A little game.....Spot the Trend play for the fun of it. thank you Best wishesEURAUD TREND.PNG;2165555 {image}
This is a tricky one but i will say uptrend on Monthl, demand created and respected. Blue squares

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  • #2,453
  • Jan 31, 2017 2:45pm Jan 31, 2017 2:45pm
CONSOLIDATION
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  • #2,454
  • Jan 31, 2017 3:44pm Jan 31, 2017 3:44pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. A little game.....Spot the Trend play for the fun of it. thank you Best wishesEURAUD TREND.PNG;2165555 {image}
Downtrend...consolidation is when was trendline broken or one demand taken out by opposite zone when is uptrend.
  • #2,455
  • Jan 31, 2017 8:55pm Jan 31, 2017 8:55pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. A little game.....Spot the Trend play for the fun of it. thank you Best wishesEURAUD TREND.PNG;2165555 {image}
Thank you all very much for playing along.

I showed the chart to use it to teach the definition of an uptrend within the methodology

Firstly, i must make it clear, I do not use trend lines to define trend. I use them to assess momentum. You can also use any momentum indicator for that purpose

So the definitions of an uptrend:

1. 2 demand zones removed. (whether or not we are making HHs and HLs)

2. 1 demand zone removed + the ability to define a change in downward momentum to an upward one, evidenced by being able to draw an upward momentum line.

Now, please go back to the chart again and apply these 2 definitions to the chart and see what you come up with.

Thanks again for playing along and being good sports

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,456
  • Jan 31, 2017 11:08pm Jan 31, 2017 11:08pm
Hi Folks just my take on AKT's game i believe the trend is up please see chart i hope it attached properly and also please scrutinise the zones and please give me feed back to where i went wrong and why all comments are very much appreciated

i Hope the chart jpg attached ok if not i will re post

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We have one life make the most of it !
  • #2,457
  • Edited 11:24pm Jan 31, 2017 11:13pm | Edited 11:24pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Thank you all very much for playing along. I showed the chart to use it to teach the definition of an uptrend within the methodology Firstly, i must make it clear, I do not use trend lines to define trend. I use them to assess momentum. You can also use any momentum indicator for that purpose So the definitions of an uptrend: 1. 2 demand zones removed. (whether or not we are making HHs and HLs) 2. 1 demand zone removed + the ability to define a change in downward momentum to an upward one, evidenced by being able to draw an upward momentum...
Hi, i think you mean supply zones?
well let me share my pic with this notes to explain why i think is uptrend although
Notes on image:
"i use the trend lines as you, for momentum and too see if a Zone is created(let me know if i mistake)
on my notes i have
For zones:
1 The zone that broke a trend line
2.- the zone that took out an opposing zone
So the blue squares mark the CREATED Zone for the broken trend lines only for that i use them in this image.

For a Trend. Remove a supply zone and demand created and respected
as the Blue squares and the second one being respected(edited).
This is why i say is in an uptrend "
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  • #2,458
  • Jan 31, 2017 11:20pm Jan 31, 2017 11:20pm
Newbie here trying to learn OFT to add something to my FX trading toolbox. My first question is how do you exactly determine S & D levels/area on a naked chart. I'm sorry if this question sounds like I haven't done any due diligence on my part. But they say those who want to learn asks questions so here I am asking my first question about OFT. From this point forward I'm ready to commit myself to all the hard work and effort that I need to put in order to learn OFT. It's going to be a long way down the road and rough as well but I'm okay with that. So I'll get started with learning by reading all post in this thread with 100+ pages already.
Patience and Discipline, these are the Holy Grail.
  • #2,459
  • Jan 31, 2017 11:46pm Jan 31, 2017 11:46pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Thank you all very much for playing along. I showed the chart to use it to teach the definition of an uptrend within the methodology Firstly, i must make it clear, I do not use trend lines to define trend. I use them to assess momentum. You can also use any momentum indicator for that purpose So the definitions of an uptrend: 1. 2 demand zones removed. (whether or not we are making HHs and HLs) 2. 1 demand zone removed + the ability to define a change in downward momentum to an upward one, evidenced by being able to draw an upward momentum...
Hello Michael,

it looks as an early morning mistake.

For uptrend shoul'd be removed supply zones. No demand.
  • #2,460
  • Edited Feb 2, 2017 12:30am Feb 1, 2017 2:17am | Edited Feb 2, 2017 12:30am
Quoting chino
{quote} Hi, i think you mean supply zones? well let me share my pic with this notes to explain why i think is uptrend although Notes on image: "i use the trend lines as you, for momentum and too see if a Zone is created(let me know if i mistake) on my notes i have For zones: 1 The zone that broke a trend line 2.- the zone that took out an opposing zone So the blue squares mark the CREATED Zone for the broken trend lines only for that i use them in this image. For a Trend. Remove a supply zone and demand created and respected as the Blue...
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