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  • #1,761
  • Jan 31, 2017 5:39am Jan 31, 2017 5:39am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} A chemist with whom I 'shared an office' a while back reminded me of the basic science on lead. He also imparted that chlorination was being phased out in favour of non-additive systems although I accept that some regions are probably still chlorinating their water. Chlorine should be Ok for people to ingest in small quantities, seeing as there is already so much of it in our bodies.
Accept it's part of anabolic and catabolic process but I think the concentrations again could be an issue and as I said about food etc before the cumulative effects of the stuff we ingesting and absorbing is wreaking havoc. Will dig further on UV & chlorination with United Utilities not to be right or wrong just for he information and clarification value. I know for sure my local supply is chlorinated.
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  • #1,762
  • Jan 31, 2017 6:49am Jan 31, 2017 6:49am
There are some interesting things to be found out. Christchurch (?) in New Zealand has a supply of fresh water that does not need to be processed. My scepticism tells me that they are probably doing something to avoid the possibility of law suits.

Here is a handy piece on typical water treatment in preparation for drinking. The final stage uses chlorination. It is my belief that some regions have moved away from using chlorine to using UV in the final stages, as is found in many small scale purifiers used with well-water. Chlorine has been linked to forming carcinogens when in contact with other reagents that can occur in the system or domestic environment. Also my tongue tells me that where I am the chlorine system has been supplanted with something else, a few years ago now. I can't drink it any more, water all goes through a jug and cartridge filter which also keeps the kettle from building up lime deposits. The water used to be pleasant enough to drink, now it has a kind-of metallic taste reminiscent of peroxide, and when I saw the Ozone treatment I suddenly thought.... ah-ha!

https://youtu.be/dtHw5_5z51w
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #1,763
  • Jan 31, 2017 7:05am Jan 31, 2017 7:05am
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  • #1,764
  • Jan 31, 2017 7:08am Jan 31, 2017 7:08am
We welcome President Trump to the UK on a state visit. Petition here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
  • #1,765
  • Jan 31, 2017 7:20am Jan 31, 2017 7:20am
I have been tearing my hair out at what's been happening at my kids' school. Yesterday, my eldest told me that during assembly, the Head teacher told them that Trump's travel ban from the mostly Muslim countries was "not good." She also criticized the building of the wall. Now, what the hell is she doing indoctrinating our kids with her political beliefs?! That is radicalisation; works all ways. I'm beyond mad. And what the **** has it to do with her and all the other whinging, bleeding heart liberals? Trump has a mandate from the American people. End of.

The complaints procedure is 1. Headteacher 2. Board of Governors 3. LEA. In reality nothing ever gets past the Headteacher. She will deny everything, accuse the kids of making it up. Her word against the kids'. So, I think 1. Email to MP. 2. Move to another area which is in the pipeline anyway. I'm so sick of these bloody liberals.

Not feeling good today. They're really getting to me.
  • #1,766
  • Jan 31, 2017 7:30am Jan 31, 2017 7:30am
Quoting jen101
I have been tearing my hair out at what's been happening at my kids' school. Yesterday, my eldest told me that during assembly, the Head teacher told them that Trump's travel ban from the mostly Muslim countries was "not good." She also criticized the building of the wall. Now, what the hell is she doing indoctrinating our kids with her political beliefs?! That is radicalisation; works all ways. I'm beyond mad. And what the **** has it to do with her and all the other whinging, bleeding heart liberals? Trump has a mandate from the American people....
Did she indoctrinate the kids back in 2011 when Obama did something similar?
  • #1,767
  • Jan 31, 2017 7:50am Jan 31, 2017 7:50am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Did she indoctrinate the kids back in 2011 when Obama did something similar?
My eldest started school in 2012 and we weren't here anyway, so don't know, but I very much doubt it...
  • #1,768
  • Jan 31, 2017 8:15am Jan 31, 2017 8:15am
https://youtu.be/L2uUpmR6w0A
  • #1,769
  • Jan 31, 2017 8:36am Jan 31, 2017 8:36am
Quoting jen101
I have been tearing my hair out at what's been happening at my kids' school. Yesterday, my eldest told me that during assembly, the Head teacher told them that Trump's travel ban from the mostly Muslim countries was "not good." She also criticized the building of the wall. Now, what the hell is she doing indoctrinating our kids with her political beliefs?! That is radicalisation; works all ways. I'm beyond mad. And what the **** has it to do with her and all the other whinging, bleeding heart liberals? Trump has a mandate from the American people....
There is a formal procedure for notifying radicalisation. I believe you go the MI5 website and enter details there.

Then .... apart from the small part that you're not supposed to tell anybody what you did .... you could inform the HM that you grassed-her-up
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #1,770
  • Jan 31, 2017 8:43am Jan 31, 2017 8:43am
Quoting jen101
{quote} My eldest started school in 2012 and we weren't here anyway, so don't know, but I very much doubt it...
By the look of it your local authority has a reporting mechanism for this, so I suggest you Google your local Council.
Here is an example I came across..... https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/sharedservices/lscb/parentscarersandthepublic/radicalisationandextremism.aspx
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #1,771
  • Jan 31, 2017 8:44am Jan 31, 2017 8:44am
Quoting jen101
I have been tearing my hair out at what's been happening at my kids' school. Yesterday, my eldest told me that during assembly, the Head teacher told them that Trump's travel ban from the mostly Muslim countries was "not good." She also criticized the building of the wall. Now, what the hell is she doing indoctrinating our kids with her political beliefs?! That is radicalisation; works all ways. I'm beyond mad. And what the **** has it to do with her and all the other whinging, bleeding heart liberals? Trump has a mandate from the American people....
Jen I hate to be pessimistic but moving school probably won't help. Here is what I did (It's not a new problem my youngest is 22 !) , I wrote to the head teacher and instructed him not to involve my children in any further religious education or school assemblies. He replied stating it was the law that all children must participate unless your beliefs are compromised by taking part. I replied that they would be on all counts as we have no religious beliefs at all. Job done ! They never attended assembly or RE classes. RE was replaced with supervised reading. So the successive government grooming in terms of the RE curriculum and basis of assemblies has been at it a long time now. Classic social engineering. Be very stern in your request and state clearly you do not want them exposed to the thoughts and beliefs of any member of staff !! Oh and by the way it creeps into other areas to, they once had to design a muslim prayer mat in art which I put a stop to.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #1,772
  • Jan 31, 2017 8:48am Jan 31, 2017 8:48am
Quoting jen101
https://youtu.be/L2uUpmR6w0A
Your French must be really good.

At least a match for our Nige!
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #1,773
  • Jan 31, 2017 9:16am Jan 31, 2017 9:16am
Quoting Exodus
There are some interesting things to be found out. Christchurch (?) in New Zealand has a supply of fresh water that does not need to be processed. My scepticism tells me that they are probably doing something to avoid the possibility of law suits. Here is a handy piece on typical water treatment in preparation for drinking. The final stage uses chlorination. It is my belief that some regions have moved away from using chlorine to using UV in the final stages, as is found in many small scale purifiers used with well-water. Chlorine has been linked...
We are going for one of these. Expensive but when you consider filter life, water taste and portability not too bad for some decent water. Can even drink our pond water if main goes down.
https://berkey-waterfilters.co.uk/products/big-berkey-water-filter-system?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&gclid=CN_49PXv7NECFUHhGwodfPwNhw
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  • #1,774
  • Edited 9:51am Jan 31, 2017 9:26am | Edited 9:51am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Your French must be really good. At least a match for our Nige!
You think I understand that?! I am working hard on my French though, at least half an hour a day.

Stu and Exodus, thanks! I knew I can rely on you guys for words of wisdom

Edit: Found out she has contravened Section 407 of the Education Act 1996.
  • #1,775
  • Jan 31, 2017 9:28am Jan 31, 2017 9:28am
Quoting jen101
https://youtu.be/L2uUpmR6w0A
I don't know about her Jen, i think the party was socialist at one point and nationalism and socialism is a bad mix lol.

that said parties do change but I'm just extremely weary of them, unlike Farage who I would describe as being almost a classic liberal type all about individual freedom and democracy for the people
  • #1,776
  • Jan 31, 2017 9:53am Jan 31, 2017 9:53am
article 50 debate now

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/31/parliament-kicks-brexit-bill-debate-david-davis-accuses-europhile/
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  • #1,777
  • Jan 31, 2017 10:09am Jan 31, 2017 10:09am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} We are going for one of these. Expensive but when you consider filter life, water taste and portability not too bad for some decent water. Can even drink our pond water if main goes down. https://berkey-waterfilters.co.uk/products/big-berkey-water-filter-system?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&gclid=CN_49PXv7NECFUHhGwodfPwNhw
Hey that's cool! "Each set of 2 x Black Berkey filters will last for up to 23,000 litres"
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #1,778
  • Jan 31, 2017 10:25am Jan 31, 2017 10:25am
Quoting jen101
I have been tearing my hair out at what's been happening at my kids' school. Yesterday, my eldest told me that during assembly, the Head teacher told them that Trump's travel ban from the mostly Muslim countries was "not good." She also criticized the building of the wall. Now, what the hell is she doing indoctrinating our kids with her political beliefs?! That is radicalisation; works all ways. I'm beyond mad. And what the **** has it to do with her and all the other whinging, bleeding heart liberals? Trump has a mandate from the American people....

If you can get several like like minded parents, you should submit a letter to the school telling them to keep politics out of the class room.

dont take it into your own hands otherwise your boy may be singled out. Or create Facebook profile and leave a comment on the school website
  • #1,779
  • Jan 31, 2017 10:38am Jan 31, 2017 10:38am
Quoting verv
{quote} If you can get several like like minded parents, you should submit a letter to the school telling them to keep politics out of the class room. dont take it into your own hands otherwise your boy may be singled out. Or create Facebook profile and leave a comment on the school website
With respect Verve many of the problems we face are down to people not standing up to be counted. I will add that in my letter all those years ago I made it clear that I will not tolerate prejudicial treatment of my kids due to my decision and that was respected.
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  • #1,780
  • Jan 31, 2017 10:47am Jan 31, 2017 10:47am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} With respect Verve many of the problems we face are down to people not standing up to be counted. I will add that in my letter all those years ago I made it clear that I will not tolerate prejudicial treatment of my kids due to my decision and that was respected.
Understood. I would just be worried that the teacher might decide to make life hard for my kid - and the weight of numbers adds some impact so it doesn't just sound like a soliditary moaner
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