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  • #1,721
  • Jan 27, 2017 6:56am Jan 27, 2017 6:56am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} I disagree, I would prefer to see UKIP as the opposition rather than Labour who are only interested in the Unions. UKIP would keep TM's Gov@ honest
I agree Dev. When no other party would touch the subject they were shouting from the roof tops. In hindsight the terms of the referendum did need a bit extra. That is if the vote was to leave that also as a by product puts a government in place that aligns with the task in hand and as the pressure for referendum was driven by UKIP think it only fair that they should have the opportunity to do the deed. Admittedly we don't really know a great deal about other policies but pretty sure they could have become cohesive quite quickly and could do no worse than the prior chimps. It always come down to how much cash is in the pot and getting out of Europe saves a bunch, cutting foreign aid saves another bunch. Immigration control eases strain on housing, health, education. Anyone who says we need migrants or the NHS wouldn't function, please don't make me laugh. Like we can't educate and give our own indigenous children the opportunity to become nurses and doctors. Stop mody codling kids, allow parents to chastise ( When I was a Kid local copper gave you a whack, you didn't want a second one !!), Proper tough justice, there has to be deterrents. Young lads wear prison time like a badge nowadays, that would stop !! Post war attitude.... manufacture, pride, discipline. Blame, compensation at every turn has strangled the place. I could go on and on but that's a start, how hard is it really to run a country, come on !!
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  • #1,722
  • Jan 27, 2017 6:58am Jan 27, 2017 6:58am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} It needs Scallops to complete the picture
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  • #1,723
  • Edited 8:22am Jan 27, 2017 8:11am | Edited 8:22am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} how hard is it really to run a country, come on !!
Very hard for the toffs who have never even run a chip shop.
https://youtu.be/NC0IJQ_s7No
  • #1,724
  • Jan 27, 2017 9:12am Jan 27, 2017 9:12am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Very hard for the toffs who have never even run a chip shop. https://youtu.be/NC0IJQ_s7No
Classic Harry
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  • #1,725
  • Jan 27, 2017 10:05am Jan 27, 2017 10:05am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I thought about the SS. Do they have targets they have to meet? You know yesterday, at the kids' school they had a visit from the NSPCC, and they drummed in their phone number into the kids. Now, I've just had an argument with my eldest that she is not going to take her iPad to school. Luckily she accepts that now but I dread to think what could happen if she were to call the NSPCC and I'm sure some kids would. The SS and Secret family courts scare most parents in this country, so much so that it is believed that 50% worry about taking their...
The SS is peopled with Crusaders, people whose belief in their own merits is not matched by capability nor wisdom. They sign a copy of the Official Secrets Act which allows them access to sensitive and confidential material, without their understanding that the signing also confers upon them the responsibility to keep such information strictly to themselves. The SS is an apt description.
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  • #1,726
  • Jan 27, 2017 10:15am Jan 27, 2017 10:15am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I agree Dev. When no other party would touch the subject they were shouting from the roof tops. In hindsight the terms of the referendum did need a bit extra. That is if the vote was to leave that also as a by product puts a government in place that aligns with the task in hand and as the pressure for referendum was driven by UKIP think it only fair that they should have the opportunity to do the deed. Admittedly we don't really know a great deal about other policies but pretty sure they could have become cohesive quite quickly and could...
Hear! Hear! +1
With some concession to the fact that constraints upon adult behaviour in these matters are also required.

However ... as I have said to some children in the forlorn hope that they might consider outcomes before taking actions ... there are phases that you pass through, like a trap door, and once you have gone through you can't get back. It is a bit like having a child, once you have one you can't go back to being a non-parent.

Therefore I fear that the undoing of the mess created by the fluffy-bunny brigade represents a trap door.
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  • #1,727
  • Jan 27, 2017 11:29am Jan 27, 2017 11:29am
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Wow, he's a fast mover.
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  • #1,728
  • Jan 27, 2017 11:49am Jan 27, 2017 11:49am
Quoting jen101
3C926E9900000578-4164078-image-m-88_1485539157837.jpg;2160312 Wow, he's a fast mover. {image} {image}

Image of them holding hands - no, just no
  • #1,729
  • Jan 27, 2017 11:55am Jan 27, 2017 11:55am
I have not been on this thread since it's inception. I see that the usual things have happened. If you cross certain lines you will be banned. But, remember, that FF is a business. And they are not in the business of winding up on a hate site list. Just sayin.
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  • #1,730
  • Edited Jan 28, 2017 1:18am Jan 27, 2017 12:27pm | Edited Jan 28, 2017 1:18am
Quoting verv
{quote} Image of them holding hands - no, just no
Here's a better one in case you think that was a fake. I wonder if he would hold hands with Merkel.
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  • #1,731
  • Jan 27, 2017 1:41pm Jan 27, 2017 1:41pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Hear! Hear! +1 With some concession to the fact that constraints upon adult behaviour in these matters are also required. However ... as I have said to some children in the forlorn hope that they might consider outcomes before taking actions ... there are phases that you pass through, like a trap door, and once you have gone through you can't get back. It is a bit like having a child, once you have one you can't go back to being a non-parent. Therefore I fear that the undoing of the mess created by the fluffy-bunny brigade represents...
I understand your "Trap Door" point but if you make a bad decision, don't compound with another on the basis of there's no going back. Even multiple bad decisions/poor choices in life can be turned round. I personally was very close to being on the wrong path. This is why I have quite strong views when I hear the crap about young offenders and their poor backgrounds etc. Utter *ollox with a capital B ! I know how to deal with them and can bring about change to their outlook in quite a short space of time and that can entail what some would consider brutality, I say it's severe discipline and it works. That goes for girls too and have trained some that became wonderful young women who had previously been the bane of their family's life.

I am almost in agreement about the fluffy bunny fallout, it is recoverable I.M.O. but the solution is radical and there lies the issue. For example some addicts will do cold turkey of their own volition and some need to be pushed. The "Own Volition" crew get themselves sorted but the "Need to be Pushed" crew generally have enablers/parents etc who won't submit them for a radical shakedown. I used addict as example but can be behaviour etc same thing, parents won't do their duty. Radical means dealing with them too. It's just like trading, timing is everything, are enough people going to see the problems as simple as black and white and come together before the trap door closes ?
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  • #1,732
  • Jan 28, 2017 1:33am Jan 28, 2017 1:33am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Here's a better one in case you think that was a fake. I wonder if he would hold hands with Merkel. trump-may.jpg;2160388 {image} {image}
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  • #1,733
  • Jan 28, 2017 1:38am Jan 28, 2017 1:38am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I understand your "Trap Door" point but if you make a bad decision, don't compound with another on the basis of there's no going back. Even multiple bad decisions/poor choices in life can be turned round. I personally was very close to being on the wrong path. This is why I have quite strong views when I hear the crap about young offenders and their poor backgrounds etc. Utter *ollox with a capital B ! I know how to deal with them and can bring about change to their outlook in quite a short space of time and that can entail what some would...
After enough years I have come to the conclusion that the most dangerous time in a young person's life is the 5-year slot between 14 and 19 years of age. If they come out of that unscathed they will usually be Ok.
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  • #1,734
  • Jan 28, 2017 2:22am Jan 28, 2017 2:22am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} After enough years I have come to the conclusion that the most dangerous time in a young person's life is the 5-year slot between 14 and 19 years of age. If they come out of that unscathed they will usually be Ok.
Oh gosh, can I call you in 10 years then?

Did you not quote an Italian minister or someone who said Merkel was "un****able?"
  • #1,735
  • Jan 29, 2017 12:59am Jan 29, 2017 12:59am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Oh gosh, can I call you in 10 years then?
Jen! You're a teenage mum?? You kept that quiet


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Did you not quote an Italian minister or someone who said Merkel was "un****able?"
No .... I believe that I posted a link to an article in which some politico said that. Judging by this picture (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9491917#post9491917) that fact is beginning to sink-in!
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  • #1,736
  • Jan 29, 2017 1:04am Jan 29, 2017 1:04am
Quoting Stu Effex
.... I am almost in agreement about the fluffy bunny fallout, it is recoverable I.M.O. but the solution is radical and there lies the issue. ...
Quite. I have written previously that I believe the UK is the next Lebanon, or <insert-preferred-hot-spot>. I hope I'm wrong. One thing is certain, in the aftermath there will be people clutching fluffy-bunnies asking "how did this happen?"
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  • #1,737
  • Jan 29, 2017 5:17am Jan 29, 2017 5:17am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} After enough years I have come to the conclusion that the most dangerous time in a young person's life is the 5-year slot between 14 and 19 years of age. If they come out of that unscathed they will usually be Ok.
Agree, maybe a couple years either side. So many end up scathed though, however, not for the reasons the bed wetting fluffy bunny brigade would have most believe. Agree with reference to Lebanon too although I think uk situation would have the obvious advantage of being an island.
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  • #1,738
  • Jan 30, 2017 12:54am Jan 30, 2017 12:54am
Quoting jen101
Did you not quote an Italian minister or someone who said Merkel was "un****able?"
Here it is...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9309430#post9309430
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  • #1,739
  • Jan 30, 2017 5:41am Jan 30, 2017 5:41am
I normally find the BBC news to be partisan when commenting on foreign affairs.

I was surprised then to find a video from relatively well spoken people expressing support for the immigration stance Trump has taken, the BBC has prior form in presenting Trump supporters / Republicans as loud mouth, gun slinging racists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38795998 (2nd video)
  • #1,740
  • Jan 30, 2017 6:31am Jan 30, 2017 6:31am
Quoting verv
I normally find the BBC news to be partisan when commenting on foreign affairs. I was surprised then to find a video from relatively well spoken people expressing support for the immigration stance Trump has taken, the BBC has prior form in presenting Trump supporters / Republicans as loud mouth, gun slinging racists. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38795998 (2nd video)
Hi Verve, maybe the penny is dropping that they have to present the full picture if they want to survive. People's ability to share facts really hampers MSM, think the end is nigh for much of the manufactured media. I actually don't even think many of them should have an opportunity to have the second chance as for many the change is only brought about by being found out editing, blatant lies etc
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