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  • #2,421
  • Jan 28, 2017 4:41am Jan 28, 2017 4:41am
hi everyone
Great thread thanks to akt and all traders who contributed i am also trying to trade supply and demand on d1 h4 and h1
more or less drawing sd zones correctly but have a problem at entry confirmation. As i understand we are using zone strenght and freshness to decide enter the trade or not.Confirmation bleez using momentum in the sd zone any other idea will be helpfull for me.
I really want to attend sunday meeting but i cant if you put video on youtube i will be obliged.
  • #2,422
  • Jan 29, 2017 4:28am Jan 29, 2017 4:28am
Quoting arinc1979
hi everyone Great thread thanks to akt and all traders who contributed i am also trying to trade supply and demand on d1 h4 and h1 more or less drawing sd zones correctly but have a problem at entry confirmation. As i understand we are using zone strenght and freshness to decide enter the trade or not.Confirmation bleez using momentum in the sd zone any other idea will be helpfull for me. I really want to attend sunday meeting but i cant if you put video on youtube i will be obliged.
Hello arinc1979. Good to meet you.
Welcome to T.I.O.F

Regarding "confirmation entries". it is pretty straightforward. You are just looking at price when it comes to the big picture level, watching for evidence that what you expect to happen. Momentum changes inside the big picture level is one way to notice the change in trend inside the big picture zone.

About the webinar, unfortunately, the recording will only be sent to the attendees. They will not go on you-tube.
Not to worry, there will be one webinar a month so there will be other opportunities for you to join in.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,423
  • Jan 29, 2017 4:30am Jan 29, 2017 4:30am
Hello everyone.

AET, a US based company listed on the US stock market
Top down analysis suggests shorting opportunities for long term trades.
I have also added zones to consider for the shorter term trader.

best wishes
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  • #2,424
  • Jan 29, 2017 4:34am Jan 29, 2017 4:34am
Hello everyone

For those of you who have shown an interest in attending tonight, not long to go now.

Please check your emails later today for the link to the meeting.
Also remember to use the phone icon on the top left hand side of the page to call in so you can get audio
The room opens half an hour before start time.

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,425
  • Jan 29, 2017 5:49am Jan 29, 2017 5:49am
Hi Akt.

Great thread. It is a concept i have only noticed to exist and have never put in any energy into it. I now realize my mistake.

However... I have read this thread now and perhaps it is because i read it thru without any pause. But i can't find anywhere where you explain how to draw the zone. I mean the top and bottom of the zones.
I do get the rules whether it is or isn't a valid S.A.D Zone and i have noticed that quite often the line that are at the top is drawn at the highest point in a supply zone, but not all the time (which makes it even more difficult to figure out how to put the lines.) and vice versa for a demand zone. But the second line i just can't figure it out how it is suppose to be drawn.
The top and bottom lines look very much to be placed at the same place a support & resistance lines would have been drawn so those is quite clear. But the second line to really create the zones... i just can't see it.

I hope you can take the time to either assist me to the post that explains it, although i have read to my knowing all posts, or perhaps even write a post that explains it in a easy way.

Once again; Thank you for a great thread.

Regards / JoLi
  • #2,426
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:00am Jan 29, 2017 6:00am
Quoting jolimoney
Hi Akt. Great thread. It is a concept i have only noticed to exist and have never put in any energy into it. I now realize my mistake. However... I have read this thread now and perhaps it is because i read it thru without any pause. But i can't find anywhere where you explain how to draw the zone. I mean the top and bottom of the zones. I do get the rules whether it is or isn't a valid S.A.D Zone and i have noticed that quite often the line that are at the top is drawn at the highest point in a supply zone, but not all the time (which makes it...
There is a youtube channel: Storehouse Analytics. With back to the basics videos.
This may help you.
  • #2,427
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:09am Jan 29, 2017 6:09am
Quoting Pipsalon
{quote} There is a youtube channel: Storehouse Analytics. With back to the basics videos. This may help you.
Pipsalon: Thank you for the suggestion but i have looked at the B-T-B videos as well and sadly i can't say that i was teached how to set the top and bottom of each S.A.D Zone.
The only thing i have noticed for sure is that in a S Zone the bottom line in the zone is not the lowest point on the same candle were to top line is located.

Regards / JoLi
  • #2,428
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:23am Jan 29, 2017 6:23am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. AET, a US based company listed on the US stock market Top down analysis suggests shorting opportunities for long term trades. I have also added zones to consider for the shorter term trader. best wishesAEX M NEW.PNG;2161230aex w new.PNG;2161231aex_daily_new.png;2161233 {image} {image} {image}
Hello Akt,

Thanks for the analysis. One correction.
This is the AEX index (The Netherlands 25)

Regards
  • #2,429
  • Jan 29, 2017 6:28am Jan 29, 2017 6:28am
Quoting jolimoney
{quote} Pipsalon: Thank you for the suggestion but i have looked at the B-T-B videos as well and sadly i can't say that i was teached how to set the top and bottom of each S.A.D Zone. The only thing i have noticed for sure is that in a S Zone the bottom line in the zone is not the lowest point on the same candle were to top line is located. Regards / JoLi
When you have found the imbalance you go back to the origin of the move. You draw in the basing candles (<50% candles) as your zone.
You draw the zone from the body of the candle to the wick.
Best thing is to practice the drawing of the zones yourself.

Regards
  • #2,430
  • Jan 29, 2017 8:16am Jan 29, 2017 8:16am
Quoting Pipsalon
{quote} When you have found the imbalance you go back to the origin of the move. You draw in the basing candles (<50% candles) as your zone. You draw the zone from the body of the candle to the wick. Best thing is to practice the drawing of the zones yourself. Regards
Would you be able to illustrate it with a picture with explaining arrows and text?

Regards / JoLi
  • #2,431
  • Jan 29, 2017 9:04am Jan 29, 2017 9:04am
Quoting Pipsalon
{quote} Hello Akt, Thanks for the analysis. One correction. This is the AEX index (The Netherlands 25) Regards
Oh boy...
Sorry, was righting to someone else at the time about Apple, got mixed up

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,432
  • Jan 29, 2017 9:11am Jan 29, 2017 9:11am
Quoting jolimoney
Hi Akt. Great thread. It is a concept i have only noticed to exist and have never put in any energy into it. I now realize my mistake. However... I have read this thread now and perhaps it is because i read it thru without any pause. But i can't find anywhere where you explain how to draw the zone. I mean the top and bottom of the zones. I do get the rules whether it is or isn't a valid S.A.D Zone and i have noticed that quite often the line that are at the top is drawn at the highest point in a supply zone, but not all the time (which makes it...
Hello Jolimoney. Good to meet you
Welcome to T.I.O.F

With drawing the zones, firstly, nothing at all to do with Support and resistance. That's a totally different concept and approach to trading.

Secondly, with drawing in the zones, for the demand zones, the lower line always goes to the lowest wick in the base or structure, whilst for supply, the higher line goes to the highest wick in the base or structure like you stated.

The higher line for demand has a number of ways it can be drawn. My approach is to place it as close to the origin of the move up.
Ditto for supply, I place the lower line as close as is possible and feasible to the origin of the move down.

Please note, it is not possible to find certainties with this or any method as you know. An understanding of the methodology as a whole will help make how to draw the lines more apparent to you as you keep at it.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,433
  • Jan 29, 2017 9:16am Jan 29, 2017 9:16am
Update.
Invites sent out by email

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,434
  • Jan 29, 2017 2:29pm Jan 29, 2017 2:29pm
Thank you for the answer Akt.

If i understand you correctly the second line (bottom for S and above för D) is put more or less in a discretionary way where the experience is the real key to put it right.

If that's correct i understand it and really like it since my belief is that trading is not the mechanical way many new traders out there hope it to be. But let's say that a total new trader that just starts to understand where the sell and buy button is. I mean a real newbie... what kind of suggestion where to put the second line would you give such a person?

I mean if you were forced to give it a mechanical rule to where to place it what would it be? I think it could be of much help, not only for me, but for other people as well.
It would at least be some kind of a starting point where to build up the experience from.

Regards / JoLi
  • #2,435
  • Jan 29, 2017 2:38pm Jan 29, 2017 2:38pm
Unfortunately, I didn't see the invite in my mailbox. I really want to join to the webinar. I have been anticipating it all day.
  • #2,436
  • Jan 29, 2017 2:39pm Jan 29, 2017 2:39pm
Quoting Akt
Update. Invites sent out by email best wishes
Unfortunately, I didn't see the invite in my mailbox. I really want to join to the webinar. I have been anticipating it all day.
  • #2,437
  • Jan 30, 2017 12:39am Jan 30, 2017 12:39am
A big thank you to all of you who attended yesterday.
Much appreciated.
I hope it was useful for you all.

I have sent replies to all of you who for some reason or another were not able to attend
The recordings have also been sent out to everyone who registered.

Have a great and profitable week.

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,438
  • Jan 30, 2017 11:41am Jan 30, 2017 11:41am
Hi again People.

I have now tried to make, what i think, a decent suply zone of EUR/USD (Daily Time Frame). Is the lower line correct placed?

Regards / JoLi
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  • #2,439
  • Edited 12:48pm Jan 30, 2017 11:54am | Edited 12:48pm
EUR/JPY

This trade is still live.
I have taken some profits off the table.

W1 - D1 - H4

W1 - Curve

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D1 - Trend / Momentum

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H4 - Entry

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I seem to not able to draw the momentum line correctly.
Michael and experienced others - Please let me know if I am getting the approach correct.
Live life king size !
  • #2,440
  • Jan 30, 2017 3:56pm Jan 30, 2017 3:56pm
Quoting jolimoney
Hi again People. I have now tried to make, what i think, a decent suply zone of EUR/USD (Daily Time Frame). Is the lower line correct placed? Regards / JoLi {image}
Hello JoLi,
please have a look at the attached picture.

greets
Joe
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