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Genry,
i think we should catch main signal from quantum with higher eintDepth and then catch those pullbacks with quantum with lower eintDepth.
Lets say we derive main trend from quantum(50) which is making his highs up represented with red square signal, we turn on quantum(10) or even 5 and look for blue signals for entry.
With this, i think we can make much profitable grids towards much more secure direction with lower drawdown obviously. And we would love trends, as it should be.

With current state of EAs, we can get accounts lose good chunk with any sudden bump up like on election day, imagine if we traded pullbacks there, we'd end up winning both ways.

Let me know what you think about this.
Quoting dj89
Genry, i think we should catch main signal from quantum with higher eintDepth and then catch those pullbacks with quantum with lower eintDepth. Lets say we derive main trend from quantum(50) which is making his highs up represented with red square signal, we turn on quantum(10) or even 5 and look for blue signals for entry. With this, i think we can make much profitable grids towards much more secure direction with lower drawdown obviously. And we would love trends, as it should be. With current state of EAs, we can get accounts lose good chunk...
Hi, dj89!
Thank you!
It is advisable to place a few screenshots that demonstrate your proposal.

In what direction to open orders?
What signals are we waiting for in the range of 3: Q60 or Q10?
What are the signals involved in the closing of the transaction? And Etc.
It should be a more detailed description of your algorithm.
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i think this is from 5 minute chart
Quoting dj89
quantum_forex.png;2157517 i think this is from 5 minute chart {image}
Set, please, to graph two indicators Quantum with different parameters and different size (and color) signals.
To be seen on the screenshot signals of two indicators. We must really see the signals for your algorithm.

What do we do when we receive the first signal?
In what direction to open orders?
What signals are we waiting for in the range of 3: Q60 or Q10?
What are the signals involved in the closing of the transaction? And Etc.
It should be a more detailed description of your algorithm.
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We always should follow main trend, not go against it,
so we follow where quantum(50) is leading us, but we take pullbacks with smaller quantum(5).

For this template i added quantum of 50 and changed colors to aqua and pink, and added quantum of 5 (for pullbacks) and made line thin without changing color.
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Btw, i have no algorithm, its just from long observation.

I also concluded that first main signal square and first pullback is usually the most accurate and the most frequently profitable.
Here's the template
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Quoting dj89
We always should follow main trend, .... {image}
OK!
Key phrase sounded - you are invited to consider the signals to trade with the trend.
Well, I need to see it on the chart.
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Quoting dj89
... I also concluded that first main signal square and first pullback is usually the most accurate and the most frequently profitable. {image}
As the algorithm will work in this situation?
After the sale of the main signal was received by the main signal to buy, but the sales trend continues.
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*patiently awaits master Genry's opinion*
Quoting dj89
*patiently awaits master Genry's opinion*
The idea is clear, but we need to think ....
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Now imagine if your shown grid was full winner (with some extra because we would take other side)
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Also, if we figure out early we're in trend, we can do some lot increasing just like you do with current EAs (and maybe quick close for those), but now in right direction
I also considered this type of trading, just go along with the trend instead of trading against it.
QLT version 1.53 from Segr33
Segr33 wrote:
If reinitialization advisor 1.52, some variables saves the previous value. Corrected.
Technical information.
For some variables, the initial values were specified in step description of the variable. If in the process of value changes, it is saved (as it turned out) during a reset advisor it. I do not know whether this be so or joint terminal, but just in case, all fixed on a clear assignment of values.
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Quoting Genry_05
QLT version 1.53 from Segr33 Segr33 wrote: If reinitialization advisor 1.52, some variables saves the previous value. Corrected. Technical information. For some variables, the initial values were specified in step description of the variable. If in the process of value changes, it is saved (as it turned out) during a reset advisor it. I do not know whether this be so or joint terminal, but just in case, all fixed on a clear assignment of values. {file}

AWESOME! Just driving home. Does this version have any SL protective mechanisms? Thx
Quoting dj89
Now imagine if your shown grid was full winner (with some extra because we would take other side) quantum_3.png;2157835 Also, if we figure out early we're in trend, we can do some lot increasing just like you do with current EAs (and maybe quick close for those), but now in right direction {image}
This sequence of signals is clearly seen in histories.
If the left was the main signal at Q50 in a sell, and then, after the Q5 signal , went to the main signals Q50 in the buy.

For some reason, we have to hold a position in a sell? and ignore the Q50 signals to buy?
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
Quoting trustyct
{quote} AWESOME! Just driving home. Does this version have any SL protective mechanisms? Thx
I have already said several times that I do not use trade program QLT by Serg33. You can take the documentation to put it in the Google translator and
get a machine translation. If you place an English translation, you will become a leader in this field for a large audience.

Since May 2016 I do not use in the trade version of Staxis. I'm with Staxis joint development of ideas, but in the trade use own program.

I give you information about the developments in Russian forum using Quantum software in the trade.
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
Quoting Chau1985
I also considered this type of trading, just go along with the trend instead of trading against it.
One trader who knows the beginning and the end of a trend, just a great person.
The rest have to respond to the indicator signals.
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
Quoting trustyct
{quote} AWESOME! Just driving home. Does this version have any SL protective mechanisms? Thx
Quoting Genry_05
{quote} I have already said several times that I do not use trade program QLT by Serg33.
Trustyct,

this text from the branch Serg33 especially for you
Serg33 wrote (Jan 28, 2017, 03:06:00 pm) http://forum.tradelikeapro.ru/index....6415#msg336415

[quote author=Serg33 link=topic=14413.msg336415#msg336415 date=1485605160]
I conducted an experiment with the installation of the individual stop-loss orders to the market. The idea is that if the price goes up against the grid, the first orders begin to close and b / y becomes closer to the current price and then rollback to the nearest grid likely closes. The overall result of the closure of such a network would be a loss, but in the long run the result is much better, because drawdown significantly reduced, and hence the requirement to depot. The results are preliminary, but with the usual Seth on eurusd, SL = 15 old items and a maximum drawdown of 50% is required Depot $ 500.
[/quote]
Wherever you go, there you are (Jon Kabat-Zinn)
Hi Genry

Thanks for looking into the SL issue with Sergei.

I use a distant Stop Loss in my averaging EA for peace of mind
but I think an SL is not suitable for averaging EA's
and even more so for the quantum EA's which have the trades placed very close to each other.

I didn't like Sergei's EA because of the dangers involved with his lot multiplication
but an SL could be exactly what is needed for this EA.
Have a nice day
[quote author=djelica link=topic=14413.msg336545#msg336545 date=1485673440]In my opinion current EA's are developed with major flaw from beginning. And that is we're always going against the trend. Instead, we should see what quantum is telling us and follow its lead.[\quote]

The phrase "And that is we're always going against the trend" Is not quite accurate, for several reasons:
1. Quantum author proposed a certain, fairly simple algorithm for the prediction of a trend reversal. Essence of which is the search for new Extrema on a given interval. Each currency pair has a (relatively) certain average cycle in which rising and falling, and if Quantum period is more or less in agreement with this cycle, it is possible to make this (so Quantum loves Flete).
All would be good, but because of the fractal nature of the amplitude of the wave and the dimension of the market often gets beyond mid-cycle and then Quantum signals are too early.
2. The author of Quantum tried to solve this problem by adding Stochastic. He took only those signals Quantum, which coincided with the zones overbought \ oversold Stoch. But Stochastics have a bad feature "sticky" in these areas with a strong trend.
And such filtering is not much improved situation. Filtering PFE instead Stoch works better, but it skips a beat.

Therefore, we do not "always enter counter-trend", we are trying to determine the range of rotation and enter the trend, but sometimes it is too early.
And Serg33 implemented flexible enough algorithm, which reduces the negative impact on the deposit of early inputs against the trend.

Approach dj89 essentially without indicator: we are looking for confirmation of a trend reversal after reversal using two Quantum with different depths to find the 1-2-3, or A-B-C.
Additionally, signals junior Quantum is proposed to use for the top-up with the trend.
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