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  • #2,161
  • Jan 12, 2017 1:57pm Jan 12, 2017 1:57pm
https://www.tradingview.com/x/guG895WL/
Might be something to keep an eye on
  • #2,162
  • Jan 12, 2017 3:17pm Jan 12, 2017 3:17pm
Quoting GravyBoatBob
EURUSD This daily area looks weird to me. Thoughts? I'm taking the 4 hour are for shorts instead. Screenshot2.png;2138197 Here is the 4 hour zone I'm waiting for. Screenshot3.png;2138204 {image} {image}
Hello GravyBoatBob, may I ask what is the name of tool that you use to draw zones? Looks nice.
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  • #2,163
  • Jan 12, 2017 3:51pm Jan 12, 2017 3:51pm
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
{quote} Hello GravyBoatBob, may I ask what is the name of tool that you use to draw zones? Looks nice.
Hi there:

It's a modified fib tool on tradingview. I figured it out from watching ATK's videos
  • #2,164
  • Jan 12, 2017 5:47pm Jan 12, 2017 5:47pm
Quoting GravyBoatBob
EURUSD This daily area looks weird to me. Thoughts? I'm taking the 4 hour are for shorts instead. Screenshot2.png;2138197 Here is the 4 hour zone I'm waiting for. Screenshot3.png;2138204 {image} {image}
Hello GravyBoatBob

If i may show you something on the EUR/USD pls...
Neither the daily nor the 4hr are zones

best wishes
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  • #2,165
  • Jan 12, 2017 5:54pm Jan 12, 2017 5:54pm
Quoting Heelfan23
https://www.tradingview.com/x/guG895WL/ Might be something to keep an eye on
Hello Heelfan23.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on GBP/NZD

If i may share my charts with you on the pair please.
The lines you will see were drawn in months, days and weeks ago.

best wishes
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  • #2,166
  • Jan 12, 2017 6:08pm Jan 12, 2017 6:08pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Heelfan23. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on GBP/NZD If i may share my charts with you on the pair please. The lines you will see were drawn in months, days and weeks ago. best wishesGBPNZD FF SHORT.PNG;2138467 {image}
Thank you sir! At least I am starting to identify the zones fairly accurate. It would be difficult to long GBP right now, although many seem to be moving close demand zones. Normally GbpCad, would be one to really take a look at, if one were look long. It is about the process right now, and to finally put a chart or two out for discussion, to find my mistakes.

Thank you for your help,
Scott
  • #2,167
  • Jan 12, 2017 6:26pm Jan 12, 2017 6:26pm
Quoting Heelfan23
{quote} Thank you sir! At least I am starting to identify the zones fairly accurate. It would be difficult to long GBP right now, although many seem to be moving close demand zones. Normally GbpCad, would be one to really take a look at, if one were look long. It is about the process right now, and to finally put a chart or two out for discussion, to find my mistakes. Thank you for your help, Scott
Hello Heelfan23
Keep up that attitude and it won't be long before you get really good at this sir.

As you rightly said, "it is always about the process". Great words.

We are better invested in process not outcomes. That's what my guys have learned.

We follow the process because that is what is in our hands to control. Outcomes are not in our hands so we don't bother about them.

As has been said, A lion did not become the best predator because it likes eating prey and is fierce, it is because it is the best at the hunt, the process.

Keep up the good work Heelfan23.

best wishes
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  • #2,168
  • Jan 12, 2017 6:27pm Jan 12, 2017 6:27pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello GravyBoatBob If i may show you something on the EUR/USD pls... Neither the daily nor the 4hr are zones best wishesEURUSD GRAVY.PNG;2138461 {image}
I would agree that on the daily that it neither removes a trendline nor an opposing zone, but on the 4HR it certainly does remove the dotted yellow trend/momo line:

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We'll see shortly I imagine
  • #2,169
  • Jan 12, 2017 6:33pm Jan 12, 2017 6:33pm
Quoting GravyBoatBob
{quote} I would agree that on the daily that it neither removes a trendline nor an opposing zone, but on the 4HR it certainly does remove the dotted yellow trend/momo line: Screenshot1.png;2138496 We'll see shortly I imagine {image}
Hello GravyBoatBob.

Ahh, here is the thing, the outcome of the short is not what decides whether or not it is a zone you see.
It is your rules for identifying what constitutes a zone.

Remember the title of the thread, "trading institutional order flow"...that wick due to its size etc does not constitute order flow, at least not according to
the rules espoused here as to what constitutes order flow.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,170
  • Jan 12, 2017 7:26pm Jan 12, 2017 7:26pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello GravyBoatBob. Ahh, here is the thing, the outcome of the short is not what decides whether or not it is a zone you see. It is your rules for identifying what constitutes a zone. Remember the title of the thread, "trading institutional order flow"...that wick due to its size etc does not constitute order flow, at least not according to the rules espoused here as to what constitutes order flow. best wishes
I don't love the wick either. I'm staying with this one though.
  • #2,171
  • Jan 12, 2017 7:51pm Jan 12, 2017 7:51pm
Quoting GravyBoatBob
{quote} I don't love the wick either. I'm staying with this one though.
Hello GravyBoatBob

I would definitely hope so.
The idea here is never to get anyone to change their trade idea.
It is all purely for educational purposes.
Good for you for sticking to your guns.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,172
  • Jan 12, 2017 8:53pm Jan 12, 2017 8:53pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone best wishes https://youtu.be/zGq404ziso8
Thanks AKT for taking the time to share. I appreciated your video...very helpful. You picked areas that I need to work on very well. 1.supply/demand zone identification. 2. Areas qualification. Hope when you have time you will do more videos to show our areas of inadequacy. Thanks a lot again on your decision to start this thread. It is really a new year gift for me.
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  • #2,173
  • Jan 12, 2017 10:49pm Jan 12, 2017 10:49pm
Hi Akt, I am just looking at AudUsd and am wondering about your view.
I am using D1 for curve, H4 for momuntum and M15 for execution.

I am waiting for price to reach D1 Supply Zone before looking for H4 momentum to turn bearish and then look for shorts in M15 ...

Please let me know your thoughts ...
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  • #2,174
  • Jan 12, 2017 11:01pm Jan 12, 2017 11:01pm
Hi Akt, also I was wondering about the confirmation of break in momentum.

In the case of the M15 chart below, which bar is confirmation of the break of momentum?
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  • #2,175
  • Jan 13, 2017 12:53am Jan 13, 2017 12:53am
Quoting TaDaDa
Hi Akt, also I was wondering about the confirmation of break in momentum. In the case of the M15 chart below, which bar is confirmation of the break of momentum? {image}
if i understand the rules correctly - your line is not trendline. imo the trendline should be as below. but i dont know which one is corect again - the down trendline or the up one?
regards,s.
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  • #2,176
  • Jan 13, 2017 1:06am Jan 13, 2017 1:06am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Heelfan23. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on GBP/NZD If i may share my charts with you on the pair please. The lines you will see were drawn in months, days and weeks ago. best wishesGBPNZD FF SHORT.PNG;2138467 {image}
Very interesting pair to not have a demand below, I'm very curious as to how this would play out and when the reversal would kick in, looking at correlating pairs GBP/AUD, it's moving towards a strong weekly supply zone for a potential reversal, wonder if the reversal would occur at the similar time.

I'll add: probably won't be a pair I'd be taking without a clear zone.
  • #2,177
  • Jan 13, 2017 1:24am Jan 13, 2017 1:24am
Quoting Szymon
{quote} if i understand the rules correctly - your line is not trendline. imo the trendline should be as below. but i dont know which one is corect again - the down trendline or the up one? regards,s. {image}
Thanks Szymon, I see what you mean.
  • #2,178
  • Jan 13, 2017 1:44am Jan 13, 2017 1:44am
Quoting TaDaDa
{quote} Thanks Szymon, I see what you mean.
no problem and answering to your question regarding the trendline breaking - it is broken as soon as the hole candle is above (down trendline) or below (up trendline) and the hole candle means including the high and the low (all the wicks), every tick of the candle must be above/below the trendline - then it is broken.
s.
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  • #2,179
  • Jan 13, 2017 2:36am Jan 13, 2017 2:36am
Quoting Szymon
{quote} no problem and answering to your question regarding the trendline breaking - it is broken as soon as the hole candle is above (down trendline) or below (up trendline) and the hole candle means including the high and the low (all the wicks), every tick of the candle must be above/below the trendline - then it is broken. s.

Hello Szymon.

Thank you for helping TaDaDa out.

Best wishes
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  • #2,180
  • Jan 13, 2017 3:21am Jan 13, 2017 3:21am
Quoting GravyBoatBob
{quote} Hi there: It's a modified fib tool on tradingview. I figured it out from watching ATK's videos
Clever, thanks
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