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  • #241
  • Dec 17, 2016 10:52am Dec 17, 2016 10:52am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Same evidence that mt3. They will kill mt4 as soon brokers accept change platform. Brokers made a lot of money using Metaquotes software. Then they will do more convenient for Metaquotes when they ready for do the jump. I'm sure this will happen in 2017
I see.

What better suits brokers' needs, MT4 or MT5?
  • #242
  • Dec 17, 2016 11:23am Dec 17, 2016 11:23am
Quoting Botan626
{quote} I see. What better suits brokers' needs, MT4 or MT5?
Brokers need somebody maintain the sever software they use. If that software is marked obsolete then they will have move one day. That only depends how easy will be the move. It's evident they will need sometime but they depends of Metaquotes and they told very clear they want. If you think other platforms will get mt4 users then why don't you wonder why in last 12 years no other platform beat it?
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  • #243
  • Dec 17, 2016 12:25pm Dec 17, 2016 12:25pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Brokers need somebody maintain the sever software they use. If that software is marked obsolete then they will have move one day. That only depends how easy will be the move. It's evident they will need sometime but they depends of Metaquotes and they told very clear they want. If you think other platforms will get mt4 users then why don't you wonder why in last 12 years no other platform beat it?
"and they told very clear they want" -- how do you know that? how far ago they told this?

Re your Q: I don't think so. I want MT4 to stay up as long as possible.
  • #244
  • Dec 17, 2016 12:35pm Dec 17, 2016 12:35pm
Quoting Botan626
{quote} "and they told very clear they want" -- how do you know that? how far ago they told this? Re your Q: I don't think so. I want MT4 to stay up as long as possible.
I ask service desk directly what plan they have. Basically you can use MT4 without problems but if you are coder you are wasting the time. I don't need know more. For me answer is clear
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  • #245
  • Dec 17, 2016 1:08pm Dec 17, 2016 1:08pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} I ask service desk directly what plan they have. Basically you can use MT4 without problems but if you are coder you are wasting the time. I don't need know more. For me answer is clear

Thanks for the knowledge.
  • #246
  • Edited 12:55pm Dec 18, 2016 12:34pm | Edited 12:55pm
MT4 Build 1031 released this morning, Dec/16/2016, appears to have high jacked my MT4 account and converted it to MT5 build 1498.
I am not happy.
  • #247
  • Dec 18, 2016 2:22pm Dec 18, 2016 2:22pm
Quoting DHess
MT4 Build 1031 released this morning, Dec/16/2016, appears to have high jacked my MT4 account and converted it to MT5 build 1498. I am not happy.
Appears you are not sure about this.
  • #248
  • Dec 18, 2016 2:48pm Dec 18, 2016 2:48pm
Quoting DHess
MT4 Build 1031 released this morning, Dec/16/2016, appears to have high jacked my MT4 account and converted it to MT5 build 1498. I am not happy.
That is metaeditor, click Help/about in the MT4 platform, not the editor
Please Do Not PM Me With Coding Enquiries
  • #249
  • Dec 18, 2016 2:51pm Dec 18, 2016 2:51pm
Quoting Gumrai
{quote} That is metaeditor, click Help/about in the MT4 platform, not the editor
MT4 build 1031.
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  • #250
  • Dec 18, 2016 2:56pm Dec 18, 2016 2:56pm
Quoting Botan626
{quote} Appears you are not sure about this.
Apparently (for me), it is a MetaEditor issue. MetaTader shows MT4 Build 1031 (17 Dec 2016), and MetaEditor shows Version 5.00 Build 1498 (12 Dec 2016).
Documentation in MetaEditor links to the MQL4 Reference.

So maybe I have a special version, just for me. Regardless, I am likely Wrong about the highjack.

I apologize, anything that says Version 5, gives me a nervous tick, and I am a little jumpy because this is two revisions past the last revision ever of MT4.
  • #251
  • Dec 18, 2016 3:12pm Dec 18, 2016 3:12pm
Quoting DHess
{quote} Apparently (for me), it is a MetaEditor issue. MetaTader shows MT4 Build 1031 (17 Dec 2016), and MetaEditor shows Version 5.00 Build 1498 (12 Dec 2016). Documentation in MetaEditor links to the MQL4 Reference. So maybe I have a special version, just for me. Regardless, I am likely Wrong about the highjack. I apologize, anything that says Version 5, gives me a nervous tick, and I am a little jumpy because this is two revisions past the last revision ever of MT4.
Metaeditor is same for both platforms because use same compiler. Only difference are features supported for terminal
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  • #252
  • Dec 18, 2016 4:10pm Dec 18, 2016 4:10pm
MetaQuotes "This is the last MT4 upgrade" LOL
  • #253
  • Dec 22, 2016 6:17am Dec 22, 2016 6:17am
Bye MT4, welcome MT5... ( they have many ways to force change )

http://www.financemagnates.com/forex...l-mt4-servers/
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  • #254
  • Dec 22, 2016 7:05am Dec 22, 2016 7:05am
Quoting braintheboss
Bye MT4, welcome MT5... ( they have many ways to force change ) http://www.financemagnates.com/forex...l-mt4-servers/
They are missing an important point: if the end users (traders) don't want MT5, forcing brokers to move on won't make the deal as smooth as Metaquotes is expecting.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #255
  • Dec 22, 2016 7:12am Dec 22, 2016 7:12am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} They are missing an important point: if the end users (traders) don't want MT5, forcing brokers to move on won't make the deal as smooth as Metaquotes is expecting.
You know how works community mind. Traders want trading and if brokers don't give other alternatives that mt5 finally they will accept the change. Finally many problems are very subjective. And payed indicators can be ported free for creators if they think is fair
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  • #256
  • Dec 22, 2016 7:20am Dec 22, 2016 7:20am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} You know how works community mind. Traders want trading and if brokers don't give other alternatives that mt5 finally they will accept the change. Finally many problems are very subjective. And payed indicators can be ported free for creators if they think is fair
I think, that you're wishing for that change, because maybe, you're not a good trader, and the holy grail comes to you, changing applications from MT4 to Mt5.
  • #257
  • Dec 22, 2016 7:39am Dec 22, 2016 7:39am
Quoting chaveznqoos
{quote} I think, that you're wishing for that change, because maybe, you're not a good trader, and the holy grail comes to you, changing applications from MT4 to Mt5.
Yes I want the change because it's better for coding. At least for me. About if I'm good trader or not honestly I don't know what relevance have in this thread
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Ps: I don't accept jobs for code custom indicators. When somebody ask me in pm I always sent to FerruFx. I don't know if he do that kind of jobs but is the coder with more reputation here
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  • #258
  • Dec 22, 2016 7:51am Dec 22, 2016 7:51am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} ... When somebody ask me in pm I always sent to FerruFx. I don't know if he do that kind of jobs but is the coder with more reputation here
That's kind of you! Much appreciated. Thank you.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #259
  • Dec 22, 2016 8:04am Dec 22, 2016 8:04am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} That's kind of you! Much appreciated. Thank you.
It's the truth...
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  • #260
  • Edited 9:06am Dec 22, 2016 8:40am | Edited 9:06am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} They are missing an important point: if the end users (traders) don't want MT5, forcing brokers to move on won't make the deal as smooth as Metaquotes is expecting.
You make a good point. As has been pointed out earlier, traders are NOT Metaquotes' clients brokers are! However, traders are the end users and the brokers' "raison d' tre" without traders, brokers would not exist!

I think the big issue for traders is backwards compatibility, or lack thereof. Will it be possible or not to port their MT4 indicators, EA's and scripts over to MT5? Without such a facility, traders will strongly resist the introduction of MT5. Metaquotes should offer:- 1) a facility for converting MQ4 source code to MQ5 source code and, 2) a facility for decompiling of EX4 code so that it can be converted to MQ5 code before being recompiled (this would protect the original coder's intellectual property). These facilities should be hard coded into MT5 so that the first time an indicator, EA or script is run, it is automatically converted to MT5 format, regardless of whether or not the relevant file is MQ4 or EX4. When all is said and done, this is what happens to end user documents when Microsoft introduces new versions of Word, Excel, etc. Alternatively, these facilities could be offered exclusively on-line and should be free of charge, just as there are numerous websites offering conversion of documents from one format to another. If Metaquotes would provide such facilities, then I think MT5 would be willingly embraced by all concerned, and we can all move on.

Without backwards compatibility, traders are likely to strongly resist the introduction of MT5, which will make life difficult for brokers who, in turn, would probably also strongly resist the introduction of MT5. If Metaquotes seeks to impose MT5 unilaterally, with no backwards compatibility for indicators, EA's and scripts, it would most likely spell the end of Metaquotes over time, and for many brokers as well, as traders drift away to alternative platforms/brokers, which would be in nobody's best interests. No company in any field has ever survived in the long run by unilaterally imposing changes that are not wanted by the end user.

Here's the latest. This smacks of desperation to me:-

http://www.forexfactory.com/news.php?do=news&id=625331

Talk about taking a sledge hammer to crack a nut!
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