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  • #1,681
  • Nov 28, 2016 1:00pm Nov 28, 2016 1:00pm
Which Prox line is correct? I started drawing the lower of the two but it looks like the large move away candle dipped down in the area contained by the higher prox line.

Appreciate the feedback!
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  • #1,682
  • Nov 28, 2016 1:29pm Nov 28, 2016 1:29pm
Quoting swTrue
Which Prox line is correct? I started drawing the lower of the two but it looks like the large move away candle dipped down in the area contained by the higher prox line. Appreciate the feedback! {image}
If I may.. As I can see, you use D/4h/1h sequence, so you shouldn't care so much about daily zones. You draw various zones on daily chart only to see (after switching the timeframe of your chart) where you don't want to buy or where you don't want to sell. I hope it helps.
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  • #1,683
  • Nov 28, 2016 1:54pm Nov 28, 2016 1:54pm
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
{quote} If I may.. As I can see, you use D/4h/1h sequence, so you shouldn't care so much about daily zones. You draw various zones on daily chart only to see (after switching the timeframe of your chart) where you don't want to buy or where you don't want to sell. I hope it helps.
Hello Mr. :-),

if I understand well, my biggest timeframe does not matter to the accuracy of the zone, but rather on where you sell and where to buy, correct ?

Thank you...

I'm on it like FRED-IV, slightly confused :-)), I read a lot about SD from many people and I miss practice. That's it. Slowly me u realize how easy it can be

again, thank you
English is not my native language
  • #1,684
  • Nov 28, 2016 2:13pm Nov 28, 2016 2:13pm
Hello everyone

A big thank you to all of you who joined us last night.
I had a blast chatting with you all.
I hope it was not too much of a waste of time for you.

Recordings emailed to attendees

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,685
  • Nov 28, 2016 2:17pm Nov 28, 2016 2:17pm
Quoting swTrue
My thoughts on CADJPY D-4-1HR Daily Trend/Mom up, over extended, hitting fresh SZ 4HR mom broken, may chop around a bit 1HR mom up, good approach to 1HR/4HR FSZ... When have you missed the train? Can I look to hit this if it returns assuming approach is good? {image} {image} {image}
Hello swTrue
How long you been doing this again?

Well done to you.
The SZ is correct
the short trade for those taking may have already kicked off

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,686
  • Nov 28, 2016 2:19pm Nov 28, 2016 2:19pm
Quoting hadi_20
hi there akt. 1-how do you see eurusd in daily timeframe do we have some s.a.d zones in here to look for. 2-i like to know more about your webinars is there any recording of your webinars so we can watch the archives of webinars you made?
hello hadi_20
EURUSD has very poor supply zones on the daily.
There are structurally better zones on the intraday timeframes though.
It just missed a 60min short today

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,687
  • Nov 28, 2016 2:27pm Nov 28, 2016 2:27pm
Quoting swTrue
Which Prox line is correct? I started drawing the lower of the two but it looks like the large move away candle dipped down in the area contained by the higher prox line. Appreciate the feedback! {image}
hello swTrue

the higher one

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,688
  • Nov 28, 2016 2:29pm Nov 28, 2016 2:29pm
Quoting quieTrader
{quote} Hello Mr. :-), if I understand well, my biggest timeframe does not matter to the accuracy of the zone, but rather on where you sell and where to buy, correct ? Thank you... I'm on it like FRED-IV, slightly confused :-)), I read a lot about SD from many people and I miss practice. That's it. Slowly me u realize how easy it can be again, thank you
Hello quieTrader,

on the contrary, accuracy in drawing zones is ALWAYS important
The difference is in the emphasis that is placed on the accuracy on the big picture accuracy versus the accuracy on the smaller time frame zones
The smaller timeframe zone is a bit more important
However, if you miss the accuracy on the big timeframe, the conclusion you come to as to whether to buy, sell or do nothing may be totally wrong if the accuracy is wrong
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,689
  • Nov 28, 2016 7:23pm Nov 28, 2016 7:23pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello swTrue How long you been doing this again? Well done to you. The SZ is correct the short trade for those taking may have already kicked off best wishes
Appreciate the input AKT!
  • #1,690
  • Nov 28, 2016 7:46pm Nov 28, 2016 7:46pm
Michael,

Wanted to to see if I could get input on day trading, time frames etc. My day job allows me to monitor charts some throughout the day, pull them up several times an hour, so I'd like something a little more fast paced. I think it would help with the learning curve not waiting days/weeks for a longer time frame setup.

Do you start with an hourly and work your way down to the 5min? I know I've seen 5 min charts in some of your trade examples. I'm assuming you monitor multiple pairs... so do you set alarms at key levels so you can see the approach prior to entering?

Appreciate the insight!
  • #1,691
  • Nov 28, 2016 8:28pm Nov 28, 2016 8:28pm
hey swTrue,
it is ok for learning to watch charts and work, but i would not recommed it for real trading. Make your experience with it, if you can do both wow. Depending on how many symbols you want to look at, take daily or 4hr as your highest timeframe for daytrading. from my experience with lower timeframes i can tell you they just put you in a hurry, no good analysis, no good and only quick decisions. Trading needs patience. Akt focused a lot on the right mindset in this thread. He knows why.

Greets
Joe
  • #1,692
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:05am Nov 29, 2016 3:05am
Quoting swTrue
Michael, Wanted to to see if I could get input on day trading, time frames etc. My day job allows me to monitor charts some throughout the day, pull them up several times an hour, so I'd like something a little more fast paced. I think it would help with the learning curve not waiting days/weeks for a longer time frame setup. Do you start with an hourly and work your way down to the 5min? I know I've seen 5 min charts in some of your trade examples. I'm assuming you monitor multiple pairs... so do you set alarms at key levels so you can see the...
Hello Seth.

Here's the thing about trading or trying to trade at work.
Day-trading is the most intense form of trading because it requires all your energy, emotional, psychological and physical.
It requires the trader to be present in the moment at all times.
It is definitely do-able if the individual has the time
so i would urge you to consider this as you embark on this challenge.
Do-able?..yes Adaptations required?...most definitely

The good thing and most important thing is that you know yourself, in that your personality does not suit that of waiting days for a set up to manifest
so i would not suggest you trying to fit yourself into that mold.

Now the challenge for you will be coming up with a workable solution to manage the situations at work whilst still trading.

Here are some questions that may help get you started...
1. do you know what your day will look like each day?
2. what part of your working day will you be able to give to market analysis (not trading)?
3. Would it be possible to do your main analysis at home before leaving for work when you are less distracted and then just execute at work?
4. Would it be advisable for you to set up your work station so you have a laptop at work next to your main desktop that u use to keep the charts open in front of you?
5. Your order entry system...would it be possible to set it up so that you have a stop always going into the market at the same time as your entry order?
6. What will you do if you have to go into a meeting or are called away from your desk for whatever reason in the middle of a trade?
7. how prepared are you for other potential distractions at work?
8. How will your work colleagues take to your trading at work over time, especially if they notice you seem a bit distracted sometimes?
9. Will you trade everyday at work or just on some days?

I hope these questions get the little grey cells going for you.

IT IS DO-ABLE

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,693
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:36am Nov 29, 2016 3:36am
Hello everyone

EURUSD...from a day trading perspective

best wishes
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  • #1,694
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:53am Nov 29, 2016 3:53am
Scalping trade 240M.
 
Easy trade using Demand Zone.
 
My coffee money.
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  • #1,695
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:57am Nov 29, 2016 3:57am
Quoting Arjun-LE1
Scalping trade 240M. Â Easy trade using Demand Zone. Â My coffee money. {image}
Hello Arjun-LE1
congrats on the successful trade.

was the demand zone you bought at on a smaller time frame please?

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,696
  • Nov 29, 2016 4:03am Nov 29, 2016 4:03am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Arjun-LE1 congrats on the successful trade. was the demand zone you bought at on a smaller time frame please? best wishes
 
Set up on 240M and entry on 60M time frame.
 
Thanks for this great thread. I still have a long way to learn from you.​
Let all the living things live blissfully
  • #1,697
  • Nov 29, 2016 7:41am Nov 29, 2016 7:41am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello quieTrader, on the contrary, accuracy in drawing zones is ALWAYS important The difference is in the emphasis that is placed on the accuracy on the big picture accuracy versus the accuracy on the smaller time frame zones The smaller timeframe zone is a bit more important However, if you miss the accuracy on the big timeframe, the conclusion you come to as to whether to buy, sell or do nothing may be totally wrong if the accuracy is wrong
Sorry, I wrote it clumsily :-)) (I could not find a better expression). I did not write that it does not matter. Of course, it depends. What i mean is that what you wrote "on the big picture accuracy versus the accuracy on the smaller time frame zones"

But it gives me a sense of what and why you wrote

Thanks for the clarification and your time
English is not my native language
  • #1,698
  • Nov 29, 2016 8:35am Nov 29, 2016 8:35am
Quoting Ibar51
Hi Michael would appreciate if you could take a look and comment on my zones thank you, {image}
Hello Ibar51.
I don't believe we've met, welcome to T.I.O.F.

Could youhelp me with what your annotations on the picture mean please?

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,699
  • Nov 29, 2016 8:36am Nov 29, 2016 8:36am
Quoting quieTrader
{quote} Sorry, I wrote it clumsily :-)) (I could not find a better expression). I did not write that it does not matter. Of course, it depends. What i mean is that what you wrote "on the big picture accuracy versus the accuracy on the smaller time frame zones" But it gives me a sense of what and why you wrote Thanks for the clarification and your time
Hello quieTrader.

No worries. I should try to make my English simpler for the non-English speakers...apologies

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #1,700
  • Nov 29, 2016 11:29am Nov 29, 2016 11:29am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Ibar51. I don't believe we've met, welcome to T.I.O.F. Could youhelp me with what your annotations on the picture mean please? best wishes
hi Michael
The annotations stand for 4Hour demand and supply area and Day supply and demand area. I did not put in the 1 hour areas . I am a day trader original from Ireland living in NZ. I only trade forex prefer not holding trades longer than a day or 2 at the most. I am a retired biomed and trading is a passion although I am not consistent.
Cheers
Barry
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