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  • #181
  • Nov 26, 2016 2:43pm Nov 26, 2016 2:43pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} You have a MQ demo account. It's used for download last beta builds. They disabled my account. It's evident they are starting to dismount MT4 infrastructure
I still have working accounts here. Of course no real ticks because of the closed markets, but working and not disabled. Very strange
  • #182
  • Nov 26, 2016 2:45pm Nov 26, 2016 2:45pm
Quoting JensItzig
{quote} I still have working accounts here. Of course no real ticks because of the closed markets, but working and not disabled. Very strange
I have that account more on year. And now shows disabled. Maybe it's a scaled shut down
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  • #183
  • Nov 26, 2016 3:47pm Nov 26, 2016 3:47pm
what bild you have?
  • #184
  • Nov 26, 2016 4:58pm Nov 26, 2016 4:58pm
Quoting poruchik
what bild you have?
last ( b1012 )
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  • #185
  • Nov 26, 2016 5:13pm Nov 26, 2016 5:13pm
Still working.
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  • #186
  • Nov 26, 2016 5:27pm Nov 26, 2016 5:27pm
Quoting mattrader
Still working. {image}
Not idea... Mine is not working and yesterday was last day I used it
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  • #187
  • Nov 26, 2016 5:29pm Nov 26, 2016 5:29pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Not idea... Mine is not working and yesterday was last day I used it
That's really strange. I just got update yesterday from Build 1010 to 1012. So i think MetaQuotes still provides support.
  • #188
  • Nov 26, 2016 9:01pm Nov 26, 2016 9:01pm
I just got update from Build 1010 to 1012 17.11
  • #189
  • Nov 27, 2016 3:23am Nov 27, 2016 3:23am
Well nothing exist forever and death is only certain thing in life. Yes Mt4 has to go and Wikipedia or similar sites will archive what was Mt4 and how popular was it many people cried for sad demise of Mt4. Yes I also have similar pain since I'm using it for last 6 years and becoming profitable. As today we are having most of softwares updated with latest version, so Mt5 has to go and will might be heading towards Mt10 or higher. So even I manage to make my stable system in Mt5 , one day it too become obsolete and I need to reprogram entire issue to later versions. Unlike other computer applications meta trader versions need real time data / EOD data to analyze market movements and that's the main problem for Mt4 users if real time data stopped either have to buy RT data from 3rd party or stop using Mt4 .

So now if Meta-quotes bankrupt tomorrow? We can't use neither Mt4 nor Mt5. I have invested lots of money in developing my trading stretegy in mt4 software. Oh yes much time invested for back testing with real money...my problem I need to reinvest everything. But no issue Mt4 isn't indispensable , this time I develop independent or rather offline steady module to run my developed strategy worked on Mt4. I need no future updates, my requirement fulfilled.
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  • #190
  • Nov 27, 2016 3:29am Nov 27, 2016 3:29am
Quoting mattrader
{quote} That's really strange. I just got update yesterday from Build 1010 to 1012. So i think MetaQuotes still provides support.
Really is not a problem because that account is only useful for download new builds. And they announced not more MT4 builds will arrive...
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  • #191
  • Nov 27, 2016 3:48am Nov 27, 2016 3:48am
Just for info, FXCM still promote heavily on MT4 platform. Just received an email as a demo user.

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  • #192
  • Nov 27, 2016 5:14am Nov 27, 2016 5:14am
In this thread some people mentioned that MT5 is more limited, others say MQL5 is complexer and offers more power. So which is it exactly, limited or more power?

Also read:
- https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/9950/p...omment_2449312
- http://www.babypips.com/blogs/espipi...-20150820.html
- http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7046493
- http://www.financemagnates.com/forex...s-perspective/

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Metatrader 4 (MT4) and Metatrader5 (MT5) are among the popular trading platforms in the [url="https://www.mql5.com/en/blogs/tags/forexnews"]foreign exchange market[/url]. Now the question crops up –what is a trading platform? A trading platform is software, which connects a trader with a broker. Traders can place orders via interface of the trading platform and then those are executed by the brokers. Providing information in the form of quotes and charts is one of the benefits of using a trading platform.
Metatrader4 or MT4 is a well-known trading platform, which was developed by MetaQuotes Software. It was released in 2005.Metatarder 5 is just an improved version of MT4, which was released in 2010.If you are new in the forex market; it is very natural to get confused which platform to choose for forex trading.
A brief account of how MT5 is different from MT4 is discussed below:
[b] Metatrader 4[/b]
1.       Installation - Metatrader 4 is simple and user-friendly software. Many users prefer Metatrader 4 as metatrader 5 download is not easy as MT4.
2.       Compilation of Codes –You can find some differences in features of expert advisor between MT4 and MT5.Metatrader4 is designed with MQL code language, which is faster and easier to compile. But data transfer from Metatrader4 to Metatrder5 cannot occur.
3.       Interface – Metatrader 4 has easy to navigate interface. This makes this trading platform popular among forex traders.
4.       Trading methods- Metatrader4 offers almost all types of trading methods – hedging and LIFO, while the new version i.e., Metatrader5 does not support hedging and implements FIFO by default.
5.       Memory space- Metatrader4 takes up less memory space compared to Metatrader5.
6.       Choice of brokers: It has been found that many brokers offer Metatrder4 compared to MT5. So if a trader selects Metatrader4 for trading, s/he can select a broker from a wide range. Moreover, majority of brokers offer key services on MT4 only.
[b]   Metatrader 5[/b]
1.       Variety of Charts and Timeframes – Metatrader5 offers 21 timeframes, whereas Metatrader4 offers only 9.Moreover, MT5 offers unlimited number of charts, out which 100 can open at a time.
2.       Fundamental Analysis-Metatrader5 user gets the benefit of an inbuilt forex calendar. Features like news events, schedules, expected impacts, forecasts are also included in this calendar.Metatrader4 does not have this feature.
3.       Indicators & analytical object tools – Metatrader5 offers 38 inbuilt indicators,22 analytical tools and 46 graphical objects, whereas metatrader4 offers 30 inbuilt indicators and 33 analytical objects.
4.       Market Orders- A trader can send 2 market orders,6 pending orders and 2 stop orders through MT5 whereas, Metatrader 4 allow a trader to send 2 market orders,4 pending orders, 2 execution modes,2 stop orders and a trailing stop.
[color=#626363][font=tahoma]Although both MT4 and MT5 have their own advantages and disadvantages, still Metatrader 4 has been found to be more popular in the forex trading.[/font][/color]
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  • #193
  • Nov 27, 2016 5:54am Nov 27, 2016 5:54am
Quoting michaellobry
In this thread some people mentioned that MT5 is more limited, others say MQL5 is complexer and offers more power. So which is it exactly, limited or more power? Also read: - https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/9950/p...omment_2449312 - http://www.babypips.com/blogs/espipi...-20150820.html - http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7046493 - http://www.financemagnates.com/forex...s-perspective/ Metatrader 4 (MT4) and Metatrader5 (MT5) are among the popular trading...
There is No power in Mt4 or Mt5 either. But some people's trading strategy worked well in Mt4. Irrespective of trading profit or loss, Mt4 is still in demand. We feel Mt4 is easier for analyze the forex market. But we're basically 3rd class forex traders who trade between 10000$ to 30000$ worth trading accounts using Mt4 or Mt5 and biggies use Metastock (Reuters company), e-signal mostly. There're great nobel price action naked chart traders too. (in retail forex traders).
So those price action traders need nothing and can earn money by detecting profitable pinbars and bearish fakey .( you can take a look with Con Artist Price Action trader website and they post such signals with remarkable arrow sign that ECB president or FOMC member telephoned them to buy or sell them at those levels).

So MT4 is needed for those who love to use indicators ( both profitable or non profitable indicators) and it was good platform for EASY use. So now Mt4 sooner or later will go away, may be Metaquotes unable to earn more revenue by it so they insist us to use Mt5. But we're simple traders NOT coders , Not EA sellers so my concern is only trading and make it profitable. We need to find a platform where we could use same strategy and trade( for lifetime without updates, as trading stretegy what identified as stable do not change frequently, if needed i can alter it manually without updates) simply.
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  • #194
  • Nov 27, 2016 6:21am Nov 27, 2016 6:21am
Quoting yesyoucan
{quote} you can take a look with Con Artist Price Action trader website
please share link mate
  • #195
  • Nov 27, 2016 6:26am Nov 27, 2016 6:26am
Quoting MXT
{quote} please share link mate
You know it. Nial , heavily invested in SEO google and wordpress webdesign.
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  • #196
  • Nov 27, 2016 6:32am Nov 27, 2016 6:32am
Quoting yesyoucan
{quote} You know it. Nial , heavily invested in SEO google and wordpress webdesign.
gotcha
  • #197
  • Nov 27, 2016 6:33am Nov 27, 2016 6:33am
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  • #198
  • Nov 27, 2016 8:06am Nov 27, 2016 8:06am
The problem with mt4 is that as long as mt4 exists, the wast majority of brokers will not offer an alternative platform like mt5.
Because contrary to popular belief, mt4 (server) is not for free (neither is mt5), it costs a lot of money on a recurring basis that brokers pass on to traders in the form of cost of trading. So, an additional child of MetaQuotes (to the existing mt4) is a too high financial burden to most brokers.
Therefore, even MetaQuotes knows that as long as there is mt4, mt5 cannot be. Also it costs MetaQuotes additional resources to maintain two instead of one platform, eats their profit.
Now, I give a *** about who or why wants to trade via mt4, I do not, and mt4 simply stands in my way. And I cannot simply change my broker, as there is not an abundance of good and cheap brokers that happen to offer mt5. I would like to see mt4 die quicker. Much quicker. In fact, it should have died millennia ago, so we would not have this problem today.
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  • #199
  • Nov 27, 2016 8:21am Nov 27, 2016 8:21am
https://www.google.fr/trends/explore?q=MT5,MT4,cTrader
  • #200
  • Nov 27, 2016 8:32am Nov 27, 2016 8:32am
Viva MT4 forever!!!
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