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  • #161
  • Nov 22, 2016 10:18am Nov 22, 2016 10:18am
Quoting JensItzig
{quote} This shows me that you have no glue .....
Whatever you posted here is just bunch of wrong conclusions, nonsense etc...I do not want to itemize one by one of your nonsense comments but I will tell you something that you might be able to understand:

I have two .ex4 indicators supposed to give same outcome, one of them is more custom then other in terms of font, color letter size but other then that to be same. they are created by two different coders, and it was same trader who gave instructions to each of them. Why are indicators different if same trader , same instructions different coders?

Now if i have just .ex4 and have no clue how indicator was ordered how can i give instructions to someone else and expect exactly same as original indicator even to be created in MT4, imagine to get same in MT5? Experience of coder? I cannot check it because I do not know to program. So I have just to trust on someones' word and pay? Right? So that is impossible. If I have mq4 then chances to get indicator with same result in mq5 are higher.
Before you say to me or someone else that has no clue about subject in this thread talk to yourself first.

I am still in search for good decompiler of ex4.
  • #162
  • Edited 10:50am Nov 22, 2016 10:33am | Edited 10:50am
Quoting JensItzig
{quote} It's getting better and better. Imagine this, you buy a datafeed that gives you tickdata and convert it to crappy M1 data only the use old indicators and ea's working on the data you have removed valueable informations. Then you bridge 2 times to get trade commands from MT4 through your 3rd party program into MT5. I bet the programmer has already such a solution and will piss in his pants while laughing when he sold you that. {quote} You don't understand that this offer was more ironic, aren't you? You will not pay me...
How do You post such things? Any experience you have? I have used data feed to analysis some local markets with Mt4( Mt4 metaquotes have no arrangement with such brokers) and works very perfectly. Take 1 min or weekly,monthly charts , it works fine . But forex data was free but now has to pay if I use in Mt4. I don't work on 1 min , just 4 hours ,daily,weekly I need in real time. You can get such 3rd party data for Metastock,Amibroker , Ninja trader and so so. No need to use Mt5 , I can choose any platform to place the trade.
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  • #163
  • Edited 11:07am Nov 22, 2016 10:46am | Edited 11:07am
Quoting ruma29
{quote} Whatever you posted here is just bunch of wrong conclusions, nonsense etc...I do not want to itemize one by one of your nonsense comments but I will tell you something that you might be able to understand: I have two .ex4 indicators supposed to give same outcome, one of them is more custom then other in terms of font, color letter size but other then that to be same. they are created by two different coders, and it was same trader who gave instructions to each of them. Why are indicators different if same trader , same instructions different...
Your post tells exactly what i'm try to make understandable for all. You still don't have any glue how the strategy that is coded into those indicators work. If you would you don't care who is implementing it, because you know how it should work and can test it every time the coder gives you a fixed version. You can do this all the time until the result meets your criterias to conclude that the product is developed right. And now you are in trouble because you are using an indicator that you don't understand and you don't have the source code either the idea how it works. That's all i want to say and wrote all the time.

So blame you to use stuff you don't understand instead MT to move to a newer version!
  • #164
  • Nov 22, 2016 11:02am Nov 22, 2016 11:02am
Quoting yesyoucan
{quote} How You post such things? Any experience you have? I have used data feed to analysis some local markets with Mt4( Mt4 metaquotes have no arrangement with such brokers) and works very perfectly. Take 1 min or weekly,monthly charts , it works fine . But forex data was free but now has to pay if I use in Mt4. I don't work on 1 min , just 4 hours ,daily,weekly I need in real time. You can get such 3rd party data for Metastock,Amibroker , Ninja trader and so so. No need to use Mt5 , I can choose any platform to place the trade.
I never wrote that this will not work. Of course you can read, convert and write the data from those feeds and show it in MT4, not a technical problem at all. What you wrote is to get a feed to import this into MT4 so you can use it after MT4 isn't supported by your broker, aren't you? Then it's nonsense to pay for such a feed to use MT4 and route all commands throu a 3rd party tool into MT5 to execute trades. I'm also say that you will get problems when using informations like spread, point or so, that comes from informations that gathered within the market watch. If not connected you will not get them.

The only solution could be to mock the communication between client and server. Maybe someone will do such thing in the future to let those old installations run. That seems the only clean solution for me. But since i only know one tool that's currently connecting with MT4 servers without a terminal, the informations about encryption and the protocol are not wide spread, so this could take a while (or MT gives MT4 to open source).

My example with M1 and tickdata should only show that you maybe paying for premium data and remove valuable information from it to fit them into MT4.

I'm also will bet that MT will add offline charts into MT5, many traders need them and the pressure will be raising with every broker that moves from 4 to 5. Then you will be able again to import your local market data into the new terminal. We will see a lot of beloved features in MT5, fore sure, when the traders base raises and the requests for those features coming in.
  • #165
  • Nov 22, 2016 11:53am Nov 22, 2016 11:53am
Quoting JensItzig
{quote} Your post tells...
you have no clear understanding of English and everything else.
  • #166
  • Nov 22, 2016 12:23pm Nov 22, 2016 12:23pm
Quoting ruma29
{quote} OK. good to know to save time...will keep searching ...someone on black market will come up with good decompiler, to make money... i need just for one indicator and i am done...
decompile indi(made 4 mt4) don't work sometimes even in mt4 itself, so chance in mt5 really bleak based on my experience.
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  • #167
  • Nov 22, 2016 12:31pm Nov 22, 2016 12:31pm
Quoting ruma29
{quote} you have no clear understanding of English and everything else.
That will be the reason for all this.

Then answer following question for my better understanding!

Do you know what your indicator is calculating?

If you can answer that question with yes! Why you want to decompile it when you know how it works and you are able to let any programmer build it new on any plattform you can think of? Then go find one, make a good requirement specification & test specification and let him do his work! Check your requirement against the product by using your test specification, then you surely get the product you want and what you paid for. It's that simple.

But i state here, you can't. And i have stated it so many times now, that's boring right now. You relying on software you don't know and now sweeting that this black box will stop working after MT4 stop working. Not more not less. If you have stolen or illegal downloaded that software, it's great for me and the original IP owner. If you have found it on any other source and can't reach the developer, it's bad luck for you but still stupid to relying on such thing. But since you wrote that you know that this software is written twice from different developers and you can't tell how it works you clearly wasn't the original customer of the developer which leads again to the conclusion you got it illegal or with friendly assistance of the original customer. In the last case ask him/her again for it.
  • #168
  • Nov 24, 2016 11:24am Nov 24, 2016 11:24am
I will move to cTrader if there is no option for MT4. I've tried MT5 and its just a downgrade with many features stripped off while it still looks like a very old software.
Since I will have to re-program all my MT4 EAs that I spent months developing to make it compatible for MT5, I would rather re-program them on a modern platform like cTrader.
End of MT4 will be end of Metaquotes.
  • #169
  • Nov 24, 2016 3:27pm Nov 24, 2016 3:27pm
Quoting Nabz
I will move to cTrader if there is no option for MT4. I've tried MT5 and its just a downgrade with many features stripped off while it still looks like a very old software. Since I will have to re-program all my MT4 EAs that I spent months developing to make it compatible for MT5, I would rather re-program them on a modern platform like cTrader. End of MT4 will be end of Metaquotes.
Ctrader is running on whicj language?
Demo only
  • #170
  • Nov 24, 2016 4:17pm Nov 24, 2016 4:17pm
Quoting Nabz
I will move to cTrader if there is no option for MT4. I've tried MT5 and its just a downgrade with many features stripped off while it still looks like a very old software. Since I will have to re-program all my MT4 EAs that I spent months developing to make it compatible for MT5, I would rather re-program them on a modern platform like cTrader. End of MT4 will be end of Metaquotes.
I like the Ctrader detachable chart, very convenient. I'm in the process trying to learn their programming language C#.

But on the bad side only a few brokers offer CTrader.
  • #171
  • Nov 24, 2016 4:26pm Nov 24, 2016 4:26pm
I still remember using MT3 platform to trade, how time flies.
Excellence is not an act but a habit.
  • #172
  • Nov 25, 2016 11:12am Nov 25, 2016 11:12am
i actually like MT5 especially on mobile. can you be more specific on what you dont like about it?
I trade for freedom, not money.
  • #173
  • Nov 25, 2016 6:48pm Nov 25, 2016 6:48pm
Quoting Pipmaster22
i actually like MT5 especially on mobile. can you be more specific on what you dont like about it?
I like the MT5 mobile app a lot better too. It's a huge improvement over the MT4 app when it comes to ease of use in terms of switching between charts quickly. I would love to switch to mt5 but i can't code, so i wouldn't be able to port my indicators.
  • #174
  • Nov 26, 2016 8:17am Nov 26, 2016 8:17am
Quoting Nabz
I will move to cTrader if there is no option for MT4. I've tried MT5 and its just a downgrade with many features stripped off while it still looks like a very old software. Since I will have to re-program all my MT4 EAs that I spent months developing to make it compatible for MT5, I would rather re-program them on a modern platform like cTrader. End of MT4 will be end of Metaquotes.
Why to reprogram. When you have your programs on the build 600+ language standard it should be runnable via simple compile under MT5. Then you have not the newer features but are migrated with minimal work.

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I like the Ctrader detachable chart, very convenient

You can detach charts still under MT4. It's more a question of the operating system. One very good system to manage the charts is here http://greed-is-good.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=49 The guy makes awesome tools for MT4.
  • #175
  • Nov 26, 2016 9:01am Nov 26, 2016 9:01am
Quoting Nabz
I will move to cTrader if there is no option for MT4. I've tried MT5 and its just a downgrade with many features stripped off while it still looks like a very old software. Since I will have to re-program all my MT4 EAs that I spent months developing to make it compatible for MT5, I would rather re-program them on a modern platform like cTrader. End of MT4 will be end of Metaquotes.
can't agree more. i am also under learning c#, after searching,find several other platform using c#,like PTMC,Quantconnect,smartquant.
  • #176
  • Nov 26, 2016 1:10pm Nov 26, 2016 1:10pm
Seem they disabled MT4 develop demo accounts...
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #177
  • Nov 26, 2016 1:47pm Nov 26, 2016 1:47pm
Quoting braintheboss
Seem they disabled MT4 develop demo accounts...
What do you mean with that?
  • #178
  • Nov 26, 2016 2:08pm Nov 26, 2016 2:08pm
Papaevagorou said as quoted by the media. MT5 was previously struggling to keep up with MT4 and our other offerings, our problem is that we are victims of our own success, he added.

MT5 will not be a success unless they redevelop and rewrite it as an improvement of MT4 , they cannot impose it against the will of the market

let them stop upgrading MT4 or stop developing MT4 , people will not not migrate to MT5 nevertheless

If MetaQuotes wants to build on its own success rather than being a victim of its own success , and understand why MT5 is an epic fail , tell them to come read these pages
  • #179
  • Nov 26, 2016 2:19pm Nov 26, 2016 2:19pm
Quoting JensItzig
{quote} What do you mean with that?
You have a MQ demo account. It's used for download last beta builds. They disabled my account. It's evident they are starting to dismount MT4 infrastructure
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #180
  • Nov 26, 2016 2:24pm Nov 26, 2016 2:24pm
MQ MT4 now work
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