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  • #61
  • Nov 19, 2016 6:35pm Nov 19, 2016 6:35pm
Quoting alphaomega
.......... Or....maybe NOT! Maybe the time has come for us - the small individual traders to unite, to show Metaquotes the finger and to create some custom build platform. Open source like Linux and free for all to use.
I am interested
  • #62
  • Edited 10:43pm Nov 19, 2016 9:11pm | Edited 10:43pm
Is there any third-party charting tool which can import MT4 indicators? As long as i can watch charts using my MT4 indicators (either on demo or live), it's fine to me. I am 4H chart based trader and don't need to excute trades using either MT4 or MT5. I expect when MT4 is no longer supported, some free/commercial charting services to import custom MT4 indicators will be available as there is a huge demand. Just like other MS office alternatvie products which can import Doc format. Will it have any legal issue?
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  • #63
  • Nov 20, 2016 1:15am Nov 20, 2016 1:15am
MT4 is still downloadable relax no need to panic

select mt4 tab

http://www.metatrader4.com/en



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  • #64
  • Nov 20, 2016 1:44am Nov 20, 2016 1:44am
So far you panic.
Wake up.
MT5 is downloaded at your link, already wrote about it. It is necessary to download on the websites of brokers
  • #65
  • Nov 20, 2016 2:22am Nov 20, 2016 2:22am
Quoting poruchik
So far you panic. Wake up. MT5 is downloaded at your link, already wrote about it. It is necessary to download on the websites of brokers
where's the problem

no need to be emotional

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  • #66
  • Nov 20, 2016 2:29am Nov 20, 2016 2:29am
I have no problems
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  • #67
  • Nov 20, 2016 2:48am Nov 20, 2016 2:48am
I have downloaded MT4 installer from Metaquotes website, but it will install MT5 insted of installing MT4.
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  • #68
  • Nov 20, 2016 2:53am Nov 20, 2016 2:53am
Metatrader will eventually leave a bad taste in traders & brokers mouths be it 2017 or 2019.

The good thing is we can choose the broker & platform.

It is the perfect opportunity for a savvy business man out there to start a brokerage which offer MT4 & an alternative. If possible an alternative where MT4 indicators can work on the platform. Which will make MT5 irrelevant when they pull the plug on MT4.
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  • #69
  • Nov 20, 2016 3:34am Nov 20, 2016 3:34am
the whole thing looks like Microsoft launching Windows 8 and Windows 10 , which most of the people hate because they simply su** and just keep on using Windows 7 and don't give a s*** about the newer (worse) versions
  • #70
  • Nov 20, 2016 4:16am Nov 20, 2016 4:16am
any software to convert ex4 to mql4 then to code in mql5? there is no point anymore to ban such software since MT4 will disappear...someone has it...
many ex4 indicators had only purpose to protect intellectual property (unwillingness to share codding idea, skills). that reason now has no ground. MT5 is name of the game.
  • #71
  • Nov 20, 2016 4:19am Nov 20, 2016 4:19am
Mt4 download no longer available from official site. All Mt4 download links downloading Mt5 platform there. We can only download from brokers. So story ends...but Mt5 is huge crap and Mt4 was popular platform for testing and using indicators. But Mt5 isn't compatible with Mt4 . Anyway I prefer other platform to trade if Mt4 discontinued now onwards.
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  • #72
  • Nov 20, 2016 4:51am Nov 20, 2016 4:51am
Does MT5 use the same history files as MT4? If so copy and overwriting hist files mt5>mt4 at least gives the user a temporary solution for his mq4 coded indi's. Offline mode wouldnt really matter then, in case of no further broker support... but if you are watching charts realtime/pa scalping with indi's, its a different story.
  • #73
  • Edited 6:16am Nov 20, 2016 5:58am | Edited 6:16am
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  • #74
  • Nov 20, 2016 5:58am Nov 20, 2016 5:58am
Quoting poruchik
So far you panic. Wake up. MT5 is downloaded at your link, already wrote about it. It is necessary to download on the websites of brokers
Which Broker? ... from any Broker, you can install MT4 ... !!!!!. This is incredible....!!!
  • #75
  • Nov 20, 2016 6:03am Nov 20, 2016 6:03am
Honestly with some people mentality here the world has been using MS DOS...
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #76
  • Nov 20, 2016 6:21am Nov 20, 2016 6:21am
Quoting braintheboss
Honestly with some people mentality here the world has been using MS DOS...
No, my friend, here most uses Windows 7 or 10, and also most uses MT4, .. lol. If I migrate from W7 to W10, ALL my applications work perfectly. But if I am forced to migrate from MT4 to MT5, NOTHING WORKS ..... Why, I have to switch to another platform, when I am Does it work correctly? ...
  • #77
  • Edited 6:45am Nov 20, 2016 6:23am | Edited 6:45am
Quoting braintheboss
Honestly with some people mentality here the world has been using MS DOS...
I believe you already concluded by yourself, it is no about MSDOS and WINDOWS or MT4 and MT5: it is about indicators retail traders use in MT4 and there is no conversion tool for that in MT5, lot of ex4 indicators( unnecessary) and no way for many reasons those ex4 files to be converted to mql4=>mql5...
Other then that no-one would say a word for switching to MT5...MQ is aware of it....business prevail, retail traders pay for it anyway.

Again:
Quoting ruma29
any software to convert ex4 to mql4 then to code in mql5?...
  • #78
  • Nov 20, 2016 6:29am Nov 20, 2016 6:29am
Quoting braintheboss
Honestly with some people mentality here the world has been using MS DOS...
I think you don't understand...... We are not against progress. All new developments and improvements, products are welcome 100%, if they are superior to the old.
With mt5 this is only partially true. The new language is not superior, just more complicated. They just change things for the sake of change. And compatibility is lost.
Your example with MS DOS is irrelevant because today you can still run MS DOS programs on the the latest windows. You can run programs from windows 95 on windows 10. There are ways to do this and it works perfectly! Microsoft didn't force people to re-write their old software.
  • #79
  • Edited 7:41am Nov 20, 2016 7:05am | Edited 7:41am
Quoting alphaomega
{quote} I think you don't understand...... We are not against progress. All new developments and improvements, products are welcome 100%, if they are superior to the old. With mt5 this is only partially true. The new language is not superior, just more complicated. They just change things for the sake of change. And compatibility is lost. Your example with MS DOS is irrelevant because today you can still run MS DOS programs on the the latest windows. You can run programs from windows 95 on windows 10. There are ways to do this and it works perfectly!...
Microsoft forced to abandon MS DOS. Really all companies force to use they are interested. I'm coding since 486 cpus. I lived all changes as coder in many platforms.

About MQL5 ( really oop feature is the problem for many mql4 coders) is same problem lived with C and C++. Problem is not language. Problem is non coders wants powerful platform using language for kids. Mql4 is good language but for big projects is not enough. You can't do a framework if you can't wrap functionality. Try an event model for UI with old mql4 ( below b600)

I understand people want can do their tools but why professionals have sacrifice tools for a few non professionals can do small indicators? Every person have his profession and is good every tool are make thinking in professionals needs.
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #80
  • Nov 20, 2016 7:18am Nov 20, 2016 7:18am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Microsoft forced to abandon MS DOS. Really all companies force to use they are interested. I'm coding since 486 cpus. I lived all changes as coder in many platforms. Â About MQL5 ( really oop feature is the problem for many mql4 coders) is same problem lived with C and C++. Problem is not language. Problem is non coders wants powerful platform using language for kids. Mql4 is good language but for big projects is not enough. You can't do a framework if you can't wrap functionality. Try an event model for UI with old mql4 ( below b600) Â...
Ok, of course, it is seen that profession mainly, is the programming, but the majority of those that enter here, are not, we are only traders ,, and it gives us equal the C ++ or the C--. . Or MT4 or MT5 .. or MT234. This is not a game, there are many people who live on this.
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