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  • #761
  • Nov 2, 2016 1:39am Nov 2, 2016 1:39am
Quoting verv
{quote} ''Any version of NI will contain gross distortions'' - sorry I don't agree with that. What matters is whether that person has the intellectual honesty to accept basic irrefutable historical facts, that at the very least is the starting point for serious discussion. I have spent considerable hours debating this kind of stuff online with people who genuinely espouse 'facts' which can be demonstratively proven false by a single google search or a basic reading of the CAIN archives, such is the degree of misinformation on this subject. The truth...

NI is more complex than people imagine. It's history originates beyond the borders of Ulster.
I'm a bit of both to be honest. Raised in ROI, Grandfather married a local Catholic girl. He was part of the British establishment and his father was as well, in India and Ireland. A right bloody mix.
  • #762
  • Edited 4:08am Nov 2, 2016 3:49am | Edited 4:08am
Quoting verv
{quote} Pretty shitty that you have to telling your kids not to go out in cammo gear. I still bags sitting beside bins, and suspicious cars a wide birth on the street lol. I'm just being paranoid but it was drilled into me. {quote} You are a right bloody mix ha. I have grandmother was from monaghan who came north and married the other side lol. It def complicated and really quite boring too. I only have difficulty with the revisionists who are revising history absent of historical facts, I could give examples, but I won't bother lol.

Oh I know about revisionism alright. In fact, Obola, as I will refer to the person who can not be mentioned by name, has ripped a page out of the Orwellian book of revisionist history.

For example; some southern towns where famous Confederate Generals of the civil war were from, had statues, and schools named after them. The SJW's went after their namesakes to have them removed based on racist fervor on the issue of slavery. They even went so far as to protest in having Nathan Bedford Forrest's grave relocated a few times to appease their relentless pressure to change it to their version, as if to right the perceived wrongs of the past. It's truly disgraceful IMO.

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." -George Orwell, 1984
  • #763
  • Nov 2, 2016 4:45am Nov 2, 2016 4:45am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Where are you?
north west London where are you from??
  • #764
  • Nov 2, 2016 5:48am Nov 2, 2016 5:48am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Yes, that is exactly what I am saying, that the average IQ in the US is below the average IQ in the UK: https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country. I have my explanation as to why I believe that is, but unfortunately I cannot state those simple facts of nature here as I have alluded to it once before and was hit by a CoC breach. So, you can take a guess or if you want I am happy to spell it out in a pm to you. I did not say that there are equal numbers of people either side of the average. In fact I said the...

Well this video might support your assertion of the average IQ in America! Ha!

https://youtu.be/G8qGDun4puM
  • #765
  • Nov 2, 2016 6:11am Nov 2, 2016 6:11am
Quoting ThunderHeart
{quote} Well this video might support your assertion of the average IQ in America! Ha! https://youtu.be/G8qGDun4puM
Yeah, I've seen that guy before; he's a great wind up merchant. I think I posted a video of him telling people that Trump junior was killing Triceratops and they were horrified. He should have tried platinum.

Another one asked before by an "average IQ" American: Do they celebrate the 4th July in England?

Now, let's debate: the problem with democracy....!
  • #766
  • Nov 2, 2016 6:16am Nov 2, 2016 6:16am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} north west London where are you from??
Away from London!

I grew up in South London and southern home counties - West Kent and Surrey and lived in those parts till about 8 years ago though I did briefly move back a few years ago. Far too overpopulated for my liking now. I need room to breathe. I don't like globalisation.
  • #767
  • Nov 2, 2016 6:43am Nov 2, 2016 6:43am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Away from London! I grew up in South London and southern home counties - West Kent and Surrey and lived in those parts till about 8 years ago though I did briefly move back a few years ago. Far too overpopulated for my liking now. I need room to breathe. I don't like globalisation.
I may move up north myself it's just too expensive to buy a house down here now days but I bet if WW3 comes they will still call my number so I can fight for king and country and the next generation of politicians can sell out my kid's future
  • #768
  • Nov 2, 2016 8:02am Nov 2, 2016 8:02am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} I may move up north myself it's just too expensive to buy a house down here now days but I bet if WW3 comes they will still call my number so I can fight for king and country and the next generation of politicians can sell out my kid's future
I'm not north - too cold and they talk funny! The best place to be in the country if there are nuclear strikes is actually East Anglia. I posted a video on that a while back.
  • #769
  • Nov 2, 2016 8:19am Nov 2, 2016 8:19am
https://youtu.be/ov5kvWSz5LM

White Hats Vs. The Black Hats! Truly astounding!
  • #770
  • Nov 2, 2016 10:48pm Nov 2, 2016 10:48pm
This election is a new low in low in politics (if that is even possible)
I think they will make a movie about it... but it's already been made:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/
  • #771
  • Nov 3, 2016 1:32am Nov 3, 2016 1:32am
I like that term idiocracy
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #772
  • Nov 3, 2016 3:21am Nov 3, 2016 3:21am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785

Article 50 must be triggered by a parliamentary vote. What this means is that MPs can effectively block Brexit in spite of the referendum results.

If the UK parliament does block the EU referendum result that would be an anti-democratic precedent, as there hasn't been a single time where a referendum result was overturned. If that happens there will be a lot of anger.

The pound is rising, but this just means more uncertainty for longer.
  • #773
  • Nov 3, 2016 3:53am Nov 3, 2016 3:53am
Quoting verv
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785 Article 50 must be triggered by a parliamentary vote. What this means is that MPs can effectively block Brexit in spite of the referendum results. If the UK parliament does block the EU referendum result that would be an anti-democratic precedent, as there hasn't been a single time where a referendum result was overturned. If that happens there will be a lot of anger. The pound is rising, but this just means more uncertainty for longer.
A dangerous game by the politico. It would serve only to delay the inevitable, bring about the rise of UKIP and the side-lining of the Tories and Labour.
  • #774
  • Nov 3, 2016 4:20am Nov 3, 2016 4:20am
There are two things I don't want to come out of this:

1. Our PM with more power
2. Parliament to overrule the people

Ideally we would have Brexit by vote of the parliament.

If that is not possible then the royal prerogative should be used to adhere to the referendum result, but it needs to be clear that this should be used only to adhere to the referendum result, and not have an expansion of that power to include doing whatever the PM wants.
  • #775
  • Nov 3, 2016 4:27am Nov 3, 2016 4:27am
Allegedly there is a committee to decide what we want out of the 'dealings' with the EU.
Seems like NF would make a good consultant to that committee.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #776
  • Nov 3, 2016 4:31am Nov 3, 2016 4:31am
https://youtu.be/22GEvDupWGo
  • #777
  • Nov 3, 2016 4:46am Nov 3, 2016 4:46am
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Never thought I would live long enough to see the Cubs break the curse of 1908! Pretty awesome!
  • #778
  • Nov 3, 2016 4:50am Nov 3, 2016 4:50am
https://youtu.be/GqyKx13S5tw
  • #779
  • Nov 3, 2016 6:19am Nov 3, 2016 6:19am
Onion-peeling for whimps
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  • #780
  • Nov 3, 2016 6:24am Nov 3, 2016 6:24am
Quoting Exodus
Onion-peeling for whimps {image}
Just light a candle! Or they haven't figure that out yet! Ha!
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