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  • #144,681
  • Nov 1, 2016 2:20pm Nov 1, 2016 2:20pm
Quoting Replicant
{quote} He is a nutter but do we really need to worry that much if he is elected ? US is not a Putincracy nor an Erdogancracy. I am sure it's possible to find a majority of adults among the 100 senators and the 435 representatives
The Global War on Terror was never approved by Congress

aka war in
Iraq
Iran
Afghanistan
Syria
Pakistan
North Africa

Hillary Clinton was at the helm of all the above.
  • #144,682
  • Nov 1, 2016 2:23pm Nov 1, 2016 2:23pm
^VIX action today sets the stage for next week up to election day, at least. Looking like ^VIX could clear 20 this week and flirt with 25 by Election Day. As we have said enough the aftermath of the election could be even more volatile than the run-up. ^VIX to 30 not out of the question, in which case the leveraged products (UVXY my meat) call options could pay many bag. Good time to sit back in cash if you're not specifically stalking volatility.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #144,683
  • Nov 1, 2016 2:24pm Nov 1, 2016 2:24pm
Quoting Replicant
{quote} He is a nutter but do we really need to worry that much if he is elected ? US is not a Putincracy nor an Erdogancracy. I am sure it's possible to find a majority of adults among the 100 senators and the 435 representatives
We have had some leaders in history managing to manipulate their way in to total authority from what was democracy, when person with such skills come in position it start to be very dangerous.
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  • #144,684
  • Nov 1, 2016 2:37pm Nov 1, 2016 2:37pm
Quoting Earleone
{quote} We have had some leaders in history managing to manipulate their way in to total authority from what was democracy, when person with such skills come in position it start to be very dangerous.
The double standards of some ...only a couple of years we banned and blocked a country because his leader wanted to wipe out its neighbour from planet earth (hola Mexico from Iran and good luck) ...

Any person with potential access to 12000 nuclear warheads that in the political campaign has pledge to wipe out 2 billion people because of religion and the largest ethnical group in their own country (hispanic from the Americas [the continent]) and have pretty much insulted and dismissed all women in the US needs to be taken seriously... call it N.Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Luxembourg or perfect San Marino ....

Principles are in play not a face ...but sadly the majority wont pass beyond the headline in Fox news while watching X-Factor edition XXXXVC and the last tweet from the Kardashians...

In any case.... all eyes 1.104x as this is a major one in play ...

sisse
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  • #144,685
  • Nov 1, 2016 2:41pm Nov 1, 2016 2:41pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} The double standards of some ... .... Principles are in play not a face ...but sadly the majority wont pass beyond the headline in Fox news while watching X-Factor edition XXXXVC and the last tweet from the Kardashians... In any case.... all eyes 1.104x as this is a major one in play ... sisse
Are u SURE you aren't American? You sure know our culture...
  • #144,686
  • Nov 1, 2016 2:53pm Nov 1, 2016 2:53pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} Are u SURE you aren't American? You sure know our culture...
Who doesn't know America stereotypes !!
Get Rich or Die Tryin
  • #144,687
  • Nov 1, 2016 3:05pm Nov 1, 2016 3:05pm
Quoting The Fool
^VIX action today sets the stage for next week up to election day, at least. Looking like ^VIX could clear 20 this week and flirt with 25 by Election Day. As we have said enough the aftermath of the election could be even more volatile than the run-up. ^VIX to 30 not out of the question, in which case the leveraged products (UVXY my meat) call options could pay many bag. Good time to sit back in cash if you're not specifically stalking volatility.
Took a little uvxy myself after comey news. Shares not options. Watching. Hot potato though I don't hold it for long.
  • #144,688
  • Nov 1, 2016 3:43pm Nov 1, 2016 3:43pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} and the last tweet from the Kardashians...... sisse
don't knock the Kardashians bro, they are pure genius....they will be worth a 1/2 billion when its all said and done, and for doing nothing...
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  • #144,689
  • Nov 1, 2016 4:05pm Nov 1, 2016 4:05pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
{quote} don't knock the Kardashians bro, they are pure genius....they will be worth a 1/2 billion when its all said and done, and for doing nothing...
right je je je... just envious then...I would love to do nothing and make money in trading ...

How are those short going. Lock and Loaded?

---

...and we rolled, Bulls exercising maximum pain before the FED they held the roll on more time and they have the benefit of the doubt for tomorrow . Expecting Europe to start the flow as early as the opening range ...after that is all NY.

Not much to do here in the Euro, sitting tight as its fill or kill for tomorrow with no much room for manoeuvre while US equities nearly there crumbs away to complete main target ... On the rest lots of opps across the board so very active positioning and trading expected in the next few sessions ...

sisse
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  • #144,690
  • Nov 1, 2016 4:52pm Nov 1, 2016 4:52pm
USD mostly been weakening against Euro for the election month and the month after . Exception was 1996 . Many other factors that can be the reason. To little data to make statistic. But worth thinking about.
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  • #144,691
  • Nov 1, 2016 5:25pm Nov 1, 2016 5:25pm
Quoting goosebone
Took a little uvxy myself after comey news. Shares not options. Watching. Hot potato though I don't hold it for long.
In a crisis with markets in panic mode, I could see UVXY doubling in the space of a few days. In a persistent risk-off shtf situation, no telling what it could do - maybe go to $100 or more. Typically, though, spikes are short-lived.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #144,692
  • Nov 1, 2016 9:05pm Nov 1, 2016 9:05pm
Quoting Pharm0r
The Global War on Terror was never approved by Congress aka war in Iraq Iran Afghanistan Syria Pakistan North Africa Hillary Clinton was at the helm of all the above.
what a crock of shit. HRC was Sec of State from 2009 to 2013. How was she "at the helm" for the neocon excursion into Iraq under Dubya? One of 100 votes makes her "at the helm" as a Senator? I don't even want to get started on Trump...
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #144,693
  • Nov 1, 2016 9:20pm Nov 1, 2016 9:20pm
Quoting The Fool
In a crisis with markets in panic mode, I could see UVXY doubling in the space of a few days. In a persistent risk-off shtf situation, no telling what it could do - maybe go to $100 or more. Typically, though, spikes are short-lived.
buying UVXY shares is one way to go if you are doing it strategically and with discipline....just a short-term trade if you are stalking a volatility event. I prefer to use a variety of spreads, as they're cheaper and can return much more. The calendar shown will pay well if UVXY rises into election day, with a huge profit range above $20. I would take something off on Nov 08 and let some ride til expiry of the spread on 11/11. If UVXY is below $30 on 11/11. I would let the following week's calls run alone, which is where the huge profit could be. Or it might not pan out at all....if so, the most I could lose is the original cost of the spread - $265.
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  • #144,694
  • Nov 1, 2016 9:50pm Nov 1, 2016 9:50pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote}what a crock of shit. HRC was Sec of State from 2009 to 2013. How was she "at the helm" for the neocon excursion into Iraq under Dubya? One of 100 votes makes her "at the helm" as a Senator? I don't even want to get started on Trump...
The “surge” in Afghanistan; the "winding down" of the Iraq occupation; the huge increase in drone strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan, the CIA orchestrated “Arab Spring”, the U.S./NATO assault on Libya that destroyed the state? The funding and rise of ISIS? What about the illegal invasion of pakistan to kill osama bin laden? Are you saying Hillary isn't a war monger herself? Comparing her to Bush doesn't make her any less guilty. Please get started on Trump....you can start by listing his involvement in any of the above conflicts or any conflict....well, ever?
  • #144,695
  • Nov 1, 2016 9:58pm Nov 1, 2016 9:58pm
50 somethig year old baby with an ignore button, and despite what you probably think I wasn't even advocating Trump. I'd rather Johnson.

Either way, fair winds
  • #144,696
  • Nov 2, 2016 1:42am Nov 2, 2016 1:42am
Quoting sisse
{quote} right je je je... just envious then...I would love to do nothing and make money in trading ... How are those short going. Lock and Loaded? --- ...and we rolled.. sisse

and I'm envious of you, that's how the world works..

shorts where locked and stopped, but I will go again, but higher...sneaky spot...PTL special...
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  • #144,697
  • Nov 2, 2016 2:30am Nov 2, 2016 2:30am
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} Are u SURE you aren't American? You sure know our culture...
mutatis mutandis sadly and perfectly fit every contemporary western culture

Waiting to see if eu reaches 11.2 or not
  • #144,698
  • Nov 2, 2016 3:37am Nov 2, 2016 3:37am
whether any pair is enjoying or not atleast gold & silver are really enjoying .... i dont know what is gonna happen to them after today's fed but atleast for now ....

i have to bring out my to predict the market atleast for e/u ....
Re-Incarnated
  • #144,699
  • Nov 2, 2016 3:51am Nov 2, 2016 3:51am
Quoting sisse
{quote} The nutter is a risk problem short term before election or if he decide to bring down the system with him if he losses by narrow margin not if he wins. If he wins the major problems start for 2017 and beyond. Us Equities will mark mid and long term highs at least but more importantly protectionism, less free trade, populism, conflict and more than probably war will be around the corner. Still will have France and Germany to complete the combo (hopefully not)...the only winners and by mile or two China, Russia and in the world economy nobody...
As a wise guy said, the election dilemma is "whether they elect the evil teenager or the blustering teenager"... but at the end in fact it won't make much difference economically and politically they are both crazy enough to start WWIII so... I think we, as people, are in a tight spot because even in Europe there are no serious politicians to lead anything anywhere and some of us are just plain tired of obviously corrupt politicians and therefore try anything else except that option... an sadly competence is not an option.
"Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered"
  • #144,700
  • Nov 2, 2016 4:47am Nov 2, 2016 4:47am
Totally amazing to me the "there's no difference between the two" and "they are both just as bad" comments that seem to be everywhere. I think people who make them generally don't actually ever honestly weigh the experience, track record, skill set (as well as list of f ups) of both candidates. Let alone question the veracity of their #hitleryforprison "news" sources that dub down and twist the truth on a good day, outright lie on all the others. Perhaps the charade where they pretend these two are somehow on the same level is an effort to lend him some legitimacy. But id say its more likely because inside they know the obvious results of such an examination of the candidates will not be the ones they like and they'll be faced with a country or party dilemma.
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