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  • #144,461
  • Oct 25, 2016 3:19pm Oct 25, 2016 3:19pm
Yesterday and today have similar candles, but not opposite; so if my understanding of 'roll play' is correct, I go with 'no'.
  • #144,462
  • Edited 4:09pm Oct 25, 2016 3:25pm | Edited 4:09pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} ? +++++ REOPENING TABLE for Iteration 20E +++++ Currently Euro trading @ 1.088x "Survival of the fittest | Winners take all" Fadhl nutts primejarvis goosebone CommercialB Grinsakh clayjay hoom...
Q20E: Euro rejected the lows but failed failed by a couple of ticks to trigger entry 1.091x today so the new question is Do we have a 'roll play' for today?

IN

+++++ REOPENING TABLE for Iteration 20E +++++

Currently Euro trading @ 1.088x

"Survival of the fittest | Winners take all"

nutts Grinsakh clayjay hoom RoelsMajor ptoftangency mayafx


--> If yes:

-> LMT SELL 1.090x -> TP1 => 1.081x -> | STP > 1.097x

primejarvis

goosebone

CommercialB


--> If no:

-> LMT BUY 1.090x -> TP1 => 1.097x -> | STP > 1.083x

Fadhl

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  • #144,463
  • Edited 3:37pm Oct 25, 2016 3:27pm | Edited 3:37pm
You are such a butt hole sisse! I knew that was aimed my way

After main target hit, I'd say short term neutral- and EU/DXY/UJ currently showing a pending bounce via hammeror doji candles...and of course all line up with my mofu TA (one mofu'er called the to the pip eu bottom on twitter). So- would I want to buy here? Sure....

But would I buy here without a change in outlook? Nope- I'd sideline and wait to get the same TA triggers that are inline with outlook direction.

Agree with Fadhl, no role play- my understanding is the same as his. I believe your "roll play" is a variation of a pattern Miss Pips and I call the "fuck em if they cant take a joke"

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...rn#post8315884
  • #144,464
  • Oct 25, 2016 3:35pm Oct 25, 2016 3:35pm
I would have taken the short. Outlook has not changed. Expensive ticket but in the choice of long or short it would have been short. It is Resistance from the June low ( Brexit ) at the 1.091x level and that is acting as resistance now. Also two more good resistance levels that need to be broken for the SL to trigger. Support there is not much to see before 1.083x area and then 1.069x .
Trading in the shadow of SM
  • #144,465
  • Oct 25, 2016 3:42pm Oct 25, 2016 3:42pm
In my back 3-4 posts I requested sisse to give an sideline option but no reply came .. and after I told him that he is way too smart for iteration 20e ... But this time I took the iteration sell just because I have to take one ... And that's all we all know there is still room for both side play to be executed...

Smart sisse
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  • #144,466
  • Oct 25, 2016 3:47pm Oct 25, 2016 3:47pm
Quoting Fadhl
Yesterday and today have similar candles, but not opposite; so if my understanding of 'roll play' is correct, I go with 'no'.
If i may enter the competition then i would go for BUY option please.
  • #144,467
  • Oct 25, 2016 3:49pm Oct 25, 2016 3:49pm
Quoting Fadhl
Yesterday and today have similar candles, but not opposite; so if my understanding of 'roll play' is correct, I go with 'no'.
The last roll play, the iteration myself and earlobe lost, didn't involve wicks. It was a bear candle engulfed by a bull candle, then the next day (after sisse called roll play) was a larger bear engulfing candle. I think we might be missing something, or would you have considered that a roll play since they are opposite candles?

candles 10/12, 10/13,10/14
  • #144,468
  • Oct 25, 2016 3:57pm Oct 25, 2016 3:57pm
Has this roll play been expected since the european close today sisse?
  • #144,469
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:00pm Oct 25, 2016 4:00pm
I can say with confidence that I see no roll play because I can't say with confidence that I can recognize a roll play when I see one. I believe it to mean that what has been happening is about to change. Based less on fundies and more on ta (levels we have the previous rolls at)
So I understand the question to be something like: Is eu currently on a weak bounce off of levels near monthly lows to the left and waiting for the right (soon) time to drop back into continuation of the down move? If that's the roll play question then perhaps I see it because that adds up to me. Put me in for yes. Sell please
  • #144,470
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:01pm Oct 25, 2016 4:01pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Q20E: Euro rejected the lows but failed failed by a couple of ticks to trigger entry 1.091x today so the new question is Do we have a 'roll play' for today? IN +++++ REOPENING TABLE for Iteration 20E +++++ Currently Euro trading @ 1.088x "Survival of the fittest | Winners take all" nutts goosebone CommercialB Grinsakh clayjay...
Sorry but didn't understand sisse's "Roll Play" first time around and I've had to put that and a lot of other stuff on the back burner for later ...at the moment for me it's like trying to grasp a big fish with a small brain! So it's short again for me please and full steam ahead!

LMT SELL 1.090x -> TP1 => 1.081x -> | STP > 1.097x
The spoken word is your master, the unspoken word your slave.
  • #144,471
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:04pm Oct 25, 2016 4:04pm
here's a reference back to sisse's explanation of roll play

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...55#post9099755
  • #144,472
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:06pm Oct 25, 2016 4:06pm
...and we rolled .... no further comments today and will leave the iteration and discussion rolling for a few more minutes ... Only 2 takers so far ...come on jump in ...

Quoting PAStalker
Has this roll play been expected since the european close today sisse?
Do we have a 'roll play' for today? ...what do you think ?

Quoting The Fool
https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/art...flation-pickup lol, volatility didn't get the memo, but post Dec. 13, or maybe Xmas, things might be different....check TLT, <$120 here we come by January?
In my books ES 2070.xx with strong intermediate stop at 2100.xx for the hikes is pretty much a done deal for the hikes play. This week will confirm it. A major fck up from Europe or in US election will only add pace and unlock further levels down for a knee jerk reaction extension ...

sisse

PS: @goosebone and @CommercialB ...just ignore the roll play concept if you aren't interested. it's irrelevant for the iteration itself ....its just to hook some that have been asking about it. It was a good reason to adjust the entry levels so we can have some action before the M close ...
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  • #144,473
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:09pm Oct 25, 2016 4:09pm
Quoting Pharm0r
here's a reference back to sisse's explanation of roll play http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...55#post9099755
The spoken word is your master, the unspoken word your slave.
  • #144,474
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:10pm Oct 25, 2016 4:10pm
Quoting Pharm0r
{quote} The last roll play, the iteration myself and earlobe lost, didn't involve wicks. It was a bear candle engulfed by a bull candle, then the next day (after sisse called roll play) was a larger bear engulfing candle. I think we might be missing something, or would you have considered that a roll play since they are opposite candles? candles 10/12, 10/13,10/14
To be frank, I knew about 'roll play' through your conversation with Sisse. This said, I think in addition to be opposite two candles, it is also opposite to the direction. In your case it was up against sell outlook.
Here, yesterday the candle was green (up); so even if today is red (down), it's not opposite to the direction. Unless Sisse changes the outlook to neutral.
  • #144,475
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:11pm Oct 25, 2016 4:11pm
Quoting sisse
...and we rolled .... no further comments today and will leave the iteration and discussion rolling for a few more minutes ... Only 2 takers so far ...come on jump in ... {quote} Do we have a 'roll play' for today? ...what do you think ?
Based on what I was rambling on about in the last roll play..I would yes
  • #144,476
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:15pm Oct 25, 2016 4:15pm
Quoting PAStalker
{quote} Based on what I was rambling on about in the last roll play..I would yes
Ok so you will short right now? ...

sisse
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  • #144,477
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:16pm Oct 25, 2016 4:16pm
Quoting sisse
...and we rolled .... no further comments today and will leave the iteration and discussion rolling for a few more minutes ... Only 2 takers so far ...come on jump in ... {quote} Do we have a 'roll play' for today? ...what do you think ? {quote} In my books ES 2070.xx with strong intermediate stop at 2100.xx for the hikes is pretty much a done deal for the hikes play. This week will confirm it. A major fck up from Europe or in US election will only add pace and unlock further levels down for a knee jerk reaction extension ... sisse PS: @goosebone...
There is a roll play in weekly sell with SL last week open [1.097x] !
Get Rich or Die Tryin
  • #144,478
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:18pm Oct 25, 2016 4:18pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Ok so you will short right now? ... sisse
Thought u might ask that..I think I would
  • #144,479
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:27pm Oct 25, 2016 4:27pm
btw , shooting star on DXY d1 but I can't see anything beyond a shallow retrace if any in regards of the light calendar this week with US data forecasts poiting to better

prints also take note that euro has been under pressure even without the bullish usd side .
Get Rich or Die Tryin
  • #144,480
  • Oct 25, 2016 4:28pm Oct 25, 2016 4:28pm
I think it would be good to open some discussion about the "roll play" in general. After following sisse for something like 2 years thats one of the concepts I still do not really understand. Maybe it has been explained at some point and I missed it. Also seems that most of us here are not sure about the concept.

But if we start from the most general: In my view - roll play: is a sub-short term-swing play that allows you to play the flows-inner ebbs inside a short term leg - for shorter time than a short term swing! Can we agree on this? and weekly/monthly roll play: a sub-swing play at the end of week/month?
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