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  • #481
  • Oct 18, 2016 5:18am Oct 18, 2016 5:18am
Quoting jen101
..... https://youtu.be/NKb9GVU8bHE It's nothing to do with America and even less to do with the UK. I'm sick of us being America's puppet!
Thanks, that was really useful vid.

It appears that the whole situation has been made worse by the usual suspects. I needed to be reminded that Assad began hostilities by firing on his own people .... at least I am assuming that part is true.
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  • #482
  • Oct 18, 2016 6:15am Oct 18, 2016 6:15am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I wasn't entirely serious, I was taking the piss . Truth is though, we are quite hardened here to shit being served everyday. Most of us don't go and have public meltdowns; we get a say once every 5 years and once in a lifetime we may be lucky enough to be offered a referendum, so boy, do we make it count! Look at this. It's enough to make your blood boil. Children, my arse. They look in their twenties. Family in the UK? Right. Then their family can go and join them in France! So where are the girls? Why have they...

Still, you are making case like the American public that Apathy on part of the Brits made all of this possible. This is crazy! I have read about the Calais Jungle, and my question was how did they get there to begin with?

The music is meant to sooth you, to remind you there is a place for all of us who still wish to remain in peace, while the world catches on fire. Don't lose sight of the spirit that seeks to protect us all from the lunatics running the asylum!
  • #483
  • Oct 18, 2016 6:50am Oct 18, 2016 6:50am
Quoting ThunderHeart
.... I have read about the Calais Jungle, and my question was how did they get there to begin with? ...
Mostly they came by lorry. Some smaller travellers were under the lorries, otherwise inside. Even inside refrigerated lorries!

The whole scene is pretty ugly. There are some injured people in the Jungle, some have been injured by the French police hitting them with batons.

https://youtu.be/WRNYqsMIbg0
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #484
  • Edited 8:29am Oct 18, 2016 7:20am | Edited 8:29am
Quoting jen101
{quote} These past few days I've been trying to get my head around the Syria problem, in particular who's fighting who and why. From what I understand, the Russians are in Syria because they're allies and have been invited there by Assad. So they are there legitimately. They are helping Assad to get rid of the rebels who are trying to overthrow him. So far so good. America wants to overthrow Assad so are arming the rebels. Now why does America want to overthrow Assad? What business is it of theirs? Because he's a nasty dictator? What about Mugabe...
Oil is part of the reason. Monsanto, Bankers wanting to get their hands on other resources (Globalists )wanting to create a diversion, and US wanting to create a Sunni entity in order to be a permanent thorn to Syria, and its allies. Also to create a strategic staging operation ground base to invade western Iraq again, to retake towns like Mosul. The Rebels started as the aggressors initially which is why Russia was asked to assist, because Russia has a lot of economic interest and Syria is an Allie. Also Iran is in the region assisting Assad forces with special operations units to focus on US war ships, as well as ground Troops. The so called rebels is mixture of various factions of mercenaries who go to the highest bidder. This in particular is always changing, there are no loyalties when it comes to money and the mind set of these savages is always to get paid the most! Isis is another story altogether, in which now they are in 30 different countries where they are inflicting their atrocities. Also, it is in the best interests of the parties selling arms to prolong this war for as long as they can, to maximize profits, and create misinformation on the intel front. Lastly a possible main objective as being the end game in all of this, is to start a larger conflict by drawing in Russia in a direct confrontation with US and British forces. Not sure it will play out like that, but it sure is starting to look like that when considering the recent moves by the UK gov to seize RT Bank Accounts. My accounting on the latter is that the US is seeking sanctions against Russia to get them to concede or acquiesce to their demands by first getting the UK on board under the ruse of human crisis theme.

Anyway, I couldn't agree more on being sick of the US military being used by sociopaths like Obama, Kerry , and Clinton drag in countries like the UK, France, and others. Obama and Bush have done more to damage our standing than other presidents before them combined.
  • #485
  • Oct 18, 2016 7:37am Oct 18, 2016 7:37am
Quoting ThunderHeart
{quote} Still, you are making case like the American public that Apathy on part of the Brits made all of this possible. This is crazy! I have read about the Calais Jungle, and my question was how did they get there to begin with? The music is meant to sooth you, to remind you there is a place for all of us who still wish to remain in peace, while the world catches on fire. Don't lose sight of the spirit that seeks to protect us all from the lunatics running the asylum!
They get to Calais by bus and train in the same way that all immigrants, criminals and undesirables travel Europe these days. The Belgian police also drop them off at the French border. The EU no longer has anything that resembles a border.

"In the summer of 2015, just before the refugee crisis got into high gear, we had the G20 meeting in Munich. It was intensively protected with tens of thousands of policemen in Bavaria. During one week, the police conducted border controls, and guess what? In one week, they “found” 14,000 illegal persons—persons who had secretly sneaked into Germany. That was in only ONE week. They haven’t done that since." https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/10/linh-dinh/hope-germany/
  • #486
  • Oct 18, 2016 8:28am Oct 18, 2016 8:28am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I thought the US is supplying the Saudis, and the Saudis are supporting the rebels (including Da'esh ? ) Why is the US actively supporting this war, is it because they lost out in Afghanistan?

Yes that is correct. Also US didn't lose out in Afghanistan, in fact many of the Taliban has been drastically reduced and I would like to think after 15 years of being there that it was not all in vain. As far as the reason see my response to Jen.
  • #487
  • Oct 18, 2016 8:41am Oct 18, 2016 8:41am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} They get to Calais by bus and train in the same way that all immigrants, criminals and undesirables travel Europe these days. The Belgian police also drop them off at the French border. The EU no longer has anything that resembles a border. "In the summer of 2015, just before the refugee crisis got into high gear, we had the G20 meeting in Munich. It was intensively protected with tens of thousands of policemen in Bavaria. During one week, the police conducted border controls, and guess what? In one week, they found 14,000 illegal personspersons...

Interesting article to say in the least. The most most interesting is the CIA predicting in 4 years of civil unrest! Ha! It will before then. After reading that, I feel almost vindicated of openly supporting Trump for what the Globalists who cause this crap want to do to America. Obama is already importing 900 a day right now until the day he leaves office. Trump has vowed that his first act as President if he wins is to stop this illegal immigration on day one and deport the ones who have committed criminal offenses. That being said what is going on in Germany is certainly a litmus test for the blatant social Engineering that IMO is intentional. (See Syria)

Another aspect of this article is George Sorros, and the fear that no German citizen can say or speak ill of him. He is the plague on humanity right now. The evil master mind that is behind it all.
  • #488
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:03am Oct 18, 2016 9:03am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Mostly they came by lorry. Some smaller travellers were under the lorries, otherwise inside. Even inside refrigerated lorries! The whole scene is pretty ugly. There are some injured people in the Jungle, some have been injured by the French police hitting them with batons. https://youtu.be/WRNYqsMIbg0
That music is appropriate!

So the injured you speak of, are you suggesting that the migrants have a sympathetic voice for their wanton invasion?
  • #489
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:06am Oct 18, 2016 9:06am
Quoting ThunderHeart
{quote} This is messed up, and is further proof that the US and UK are trying to stir stuff up, as well as silence alternative news sources for reporting the truth. This really is cause for major concern, as well incite the wrath of cold anger against the elites for trying to manufacture a crisis at the expenses of hundreds of lives. Russia is not the enemy, and I ashamed that my so called voted leaders are engaging in such evil to propagate their nefarious agenda. Obama is a treasonous bastard! I can say that because he doesn't have a father and...
NatWest has changed its mind: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3846848/NatWest-caves-Kremlin-State-owned-bank-backtracks-threats-close-accounts-Putin-s-propaganda-mouthpiece-Russia-Today.html#comments

Good publicity for RT. Now everyone will watch it.
  • #490
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:10am Oct 18, 2016 9:10am
Er how, just how.....? (the adventurous sex life) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3846752/Obese-mother-gorged-13-000-calories-day-sheds-weight-new-younger-lover.html
  • #491
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:21am Oct 18, 2016 9:21am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} They get to Calais by bus and train in the same way that all immigrants, criminals and undesirables travel Europe these days. The Belgian police also drop them off at the French border. The EU no longer has anything that resembles a border. "In the summer of 2015, just before the refugee crisis got into high gear, we had the G20 meeting in Munich. It was intensively protected with tens of thousands of policemen in Bavaria. During one week, the police conducted border controls, and guess what? In one week, they found 14,000 illegal personspersons...
I have been going on about Calais for months! They will do ANYTHING to get into the UK, start fires on the tracks to stop a Eurostar train then hanging onto the underside, throw missiles at cars and lorries to stop them, running in front of cars (last week one didn't stop and killed a migrant)... at least now the UK taxpayer is funding big concrete walls on the autoroute approaching the ports.
  • #492
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:26am Oct 18, 2016 9:26am
Quoting jen101
Er how, just how.....? (the adventurous sex life) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3846752/Obese-mother-gorged-13-000-calories-day-sheds-weight-new-younger-lover.html
That is disgusting.
  • #493
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:28am Oct 18, 2016 9:28am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} That is disgusting.
Not your type I take it?
  • #494
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:28am Oct 18, 2016 9:28am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I have been going on about Calais for months! They will do ANYTHING to get into the UK, start fires on the tracks to stop a Eurostar train then hanging onto the underside, throw missiles at cars and lorries to stop them, running in front of cars (last week one didn't stop and killed a migrant)... at least now the UK taxpayer is funding big concrete walls on the autoroute approaching the ports.
I have been taking note of the news on Calais recently. The French are about as useful as a chocolate teapot
  • #495
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:33am Oct 18, 2016 9:33am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I needed to be reminded that Assad began hostilities by firing on his own people .... at least I am assuming that part is true.
Yeah that part is the one I question the most, as well as the alleged use of chemical weapons. The entire video is a convenient synopsis that has some holes in it. What is interesting about all of this as the narrative of the video illustrates, is the lack of objective and how the US is not able to define the so called Red line, in which Obama himself declared then backed down. Reason being, is the propaganda that was manufactured to sell to the public that Assad was this evil person who was capable of such atrocities is one big lie, which was a motivating factor for Russia saying it had enough and stepped in to aid Assad. Eerily I see parallels to the case being made against Saddam, with the claim of WMD's and the provocation for the US to take action. Ok I think it is safe to assume that Saddam was a bad man. But as the picture suggest many years prior while Iran and Iraq were at war look who is pictured.

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When US forces invaded Iraq, where was Russia to come to Saddam's aid? There wasn't any because Iran is Russia's Allie, and hostilities towards Saddam were still simmering from the decades war they were in. In other words, the US is not going to be coming out of this smelling like roses, and it is my belief is all part of a larger sinister plan, like actors in a play in order to reach a whole other objective. One thing the video is correct in pointing out, that the war in Syria could indeed be a very long war with no end in sight. Who knows though, seeing that Obama's end is coming soon in office, it is why it is imperative that Hillary does not succeed in getting elected, because she will just continue on with this farce, where as Trump would remove ourselves completely while focusing on his domestic agenda. How ordinary Americans who are so adamant about not voting for Trump can not see this, is beyond me. It really is a confounding issue for me, as is with many educated informed supporters of Trump.
  • #496
  • Oct 18, 2016 9:37am Oct 18, 2016 9:37am
Quoting jen101
{quote} NatWest has changed its mind: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3846848/NatWest-caves-Kremlin-State-owned-bank-backtracks-threats-close-accounts-Putin-s-propaganda-mouthpiece-Russia-Today.html#comments Good publicity for RT. Now everyone will watch it.

Interesting! Now we can take a short breather of relief at least for now. I was thinking that this was the start of ramping up the tensions of an already Cold war being waged.
  • #497
  • Oct 18, 2016 10:42am Oct 18, 2016 10:42am
Oh Good! The Clinton's are starting to feel the pressure!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3844274/Bill-having-hard-time-Chelsea-livid-Hillary-p-ed-Clinton-family-rocked-Wikileaks-donors-friends-furious-candid-aides-said-them.html

Interesting interview of Melania Trump!

https://youtu.be/0AoEZzv63O8
  • #498
  • Oct 18, 2016 5:20pm Oct 18, 2016 5:20pm
Quoting ThunderHeart
.... Ok I think it is safe to assume that Saddam was a bad man. But as the picture suggest many years prior while Iran and Iraq were at war look who is pictured. {image}
I don't recognize the man holding onto Saddam Hussein. Oh, I found it, it is Donald Rumsfeld.


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.... How ordinary Americans who are so adamant about not voting for Trump can not see this, is beyond me. It really is a confounding issue for me, as is with many educated informed supporters of Trump.
It is because it takes age and experience to open one's eyes, and before that time the naive want to believe that they are on the correct side. This guy (http://www.forexfactory.com/ken*a) has this thread (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=420829) which, iirc, contains a very interesting (and rather long, and difficult to find) examination of Bill Clinton's dubious behaviour from way back. I see you are already subscribed.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #499
  • Oct 19, 2016 12:17am Oct 19, 2016 12:17am
https://youtu.be/FPRswRWZ23Q
  • #500
  • Edited 1:50am Oct 19, 2016 12:20am | Edited 1:50am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} so you do not like the video jen don't invite Mingary to your restaurant if you want a sugar coated review but to say it's just (This type of logic is a favorite tool in conspiracy theory or just plain dumb pseudo science) is a bit harsh. their is a link between the middle class getting squeeze and Trump's popularity with out a doubt in my mind this is the videos mind point I doubt you will answer this but can you think of one nice/positive thing about Trump without it being a backhanded compliment??
Nice/positive thing about Trump without it being a backhanded compliment?
==> He is a celebrity, he should stick with celebrity and quit politics.

All the tin foil nut jobs, religious wackos, insane talk show hosts and their followers, conspiracy theorists and anyone who would rather be lead than to think for themselves have found their candidate.
This situation has been brewing for at least 20 years - rising since the bill clinton presidency and culminating with this "mass mind" incarnating in the form of a Donald Trump.
The Trumpets are preparing for the loss of the election, claiming fraud and ready - as their leader stated - that they should be exercising their 2nd amendment rights, i.e murder the opposition.
It is always amazing to see that the enthralled masses will always choose a leader (in this case the trump) that will destroy them.
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